@Cornpop76 I think it's quite obvious that along with many other corporations, including Sony, they want more people subscribing and not owning their own games. They'll also have less people being able to buy second hand games from ebay and other places so easily and they can then sell the games digitally for as much as they like, as long as people are still buying.
I get that the quote has been taken out of context but it seems naive to think that they'd not prefer to more people subscribing and paying for games digitally at this stage.
If they were so bothered about physical games they'd probably pay more attention to making them at least functional on a physical disc instead of requiring a download to even be able to play them. Like I said, the current Assassin's Creed game literally says "Internet required to install the game" on the front cover. So if the servers ever go down in the future or some people don't have an internet connection for whatever reason at any point those discs will be useless.
It's not just an Ubisoft problem and I get that, for me though one of the worst things about the gaming industry today is that discs often have games filled with bugs that need several patches to even work properly, or they simply don't work at all until there's a download and there's no way I'm paying for that.
I'm not anti-digital though, like I said I use GOG for PC where you can at least download the games with offline installers so if you don't want some app on your PC you can log in, buy the game, download it with installers, back it up on external drives as many times as you want then never interact with the site again if you don't want to. If Ubisoft and others want to do that then I'll gladly buy games from them digitally! That's obviously not happening though.
@LordGlarc, @Cornpop76, thanks but the article the quote was from shows that they're increasingly focused on the subscription model and would still prefer it if people shifting to not owning their games more. I can be picky with this stuff too as I prefer collecting physical versions of games or at least having drm free on PC with GOG.
I just looked at the game cover on amazon too and saw "internet required to install game." That means that it's impossible to preserve and the physical disc is probably next to useless without an internet connection.
Another big issue for me with physical and games like this is that they're released needing loads of patching due to the size and scope of them and then there's dlc, etc, later on so they're in no way complete at first.
I do actually prefer big open world games though and have no issue with the "checklist" thing many people don't like either so my problem isn't so much with the Ubisoft formula or whatever, I'd prefer games like this to have more RPG elements but that's another subject I guess. If there's a complete edition in future that actually plays without requiring downloads/internet connection that's probably one of the only ways I'd think about buying.
I might have been interested in this but I still remember someone at Ubisoft saying that I should get comfortable with not owning my own games so I'm still going with not owning any new Ubisoft games instead.
Would be good if the comments here could have the option of starting with the most recent at the top instead of having to scroll five miles down the page.
@colonelkilgore same. I'm not even sure if I've ever played any of these games but would have liked to get this and at least try them. If I can't manage to get them physical though I'm not touching it. Can't stand this digital only crap (unless it's GOG for pc and I can download, back up and keep my own games without some middleman program in the way.) I've seen some imports on ebay and if I have the cash to spare soon will try there if they still have stock.
Finished the main story but going around and doing other stuff now (which is often my favourite part in RPG games), like playing golf, darts, levelling up/buying new skills, other substories, etc.
Awesome game and even though the areas aren't huge I think they're really well made and with loads of things to do.
@Jaz007 I don't think it really matters. Anyone that pre-orders a physical edition could have a code for a digital edition until the version they paid for is shipped out.
And I think the idea that these corporations can't make any allowances during a global pandemic for their fans is off too. Especially when they can still charge those that didn't pre-order the normal price for a digital version.
Anyway whatever, the most stupid thing of all is not even giving a new date. We've gone from one date, to another, to no date at all. It wouldn't have hurt them so much to say end of july or something instead, when this virus could be under control a lot more than it is now and an actual release could be arranged.
There's clearly more important things we have to deal with at a time like this, but this "logistical" issues thing is unreal. They can literally just upload the game to the playstation store whenever they feel like it.
Like a few have already said, maybe this is more about them making money than anything else. That's really sad if so.
The other crazy part is the indefinite delay. Why? Just annouce a date a couple of months further down the line, then if things still aren't sorted put it on the store. People can buy physical later on when they're ready.
And we already had several delays to top releases this year before this virus even hit us (Cyberpunk, Last of Us, Watchdogs, FF7, Bloodlines 2, Marvels Avengers, etc), the gaming industry is a joke at times.
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Re: Ubisoft Will Reportedly Fight for Assassin's Creed Shadows, Anti-Harassment Plan in Place
@Cornpop76 I think it's quite obvious that along with many other corporations, including Sony, they want more people subscribing and not owning their own games. They'll also have less people being able to buy second hand games from ebay and other places so easily and they can then sell the games digitally for as much as they like, as long as people are still buying.
I get that the quote has been taken out of context but it seems naive to think that they'd not prefer to more people subscribing and paying for games digitally at this stage.
If they were so bothered about physical games they'd probably pay more attention to making them at least functional on a physical disc instead of requiring a download to even be able to play them. Like I said, the current Assassin's Creed game literally says "Internet required to install the game" on the front cover. So if the servers ever go down in the future or some people don't have an internet connection for whatever reason at any point those discs will be useless.
It's not just an Ubisoft problem and I get that, for me though one of the worst things about the gaming industry today is that discs often have games filled with bugs that need several patches to even work properly, or they simply don't work at all until there's a download and there's no way I'm paying for that.
I'm not anti-digital though, like I said I use GOG for PC where you can at least download the games with offline installers so if you don't want some app on your PC you can log in, buy the game, download it with installers, back it up on external drives as many times as you want then never interact with the site again if you don't want to. If Ubisoft and others want to do that then I'll gladly buy games from them digitally! That's obviously not happening though.
Re: Ubisoft Will Reportedly Fight for Assassin's Creed Shadows, Anti-Harassment Plan in Place
@LordGlarc, @Cornpop76, thanks but the article the quote was from shows that they're increasingly focused on the subscription model and would still prefer it if people shifting to not owning their games more. I can be picky with this stuff too as I prefer collecting physical versions of games or at least having drm free on PC with GOG.
I just looked at the game cover on amazon too and saw "internet required to install game." That means that it's impossible to preserve and the physical disc is probably next to useless without an internet connection.
Another big issue for me with physical and games like this is that they're released needing loads of patching due to the size and scope of them and then there's dlc, etc, later on so they're in no way complete at first.
I do actually prefer big open world games though and have no issue with the "checklist" thing many people don't like either so my problem isn't so much with the Ubisoft formula or whatever, I'd prefer games like this to have more RPG elements but that's another subject I guess. If there's a complete edition in future that actually plays without requiring downloads/internet connection that's probably one of the only ways I'd think about buying.
Re: Ubisoft Will Reportedly Fight for Assassin's Creed Shadows, Anti-Harassment Plan in Place
I might have been interested in this but I still remember someone at Ubisoft saying that I should get comfortable with not owning my own games so I'm still going with not owning any new Ubisoft games instead.
Re: PSN Down Worldwide as PS5, PS4 Players Can't Log In or Play Online
Would be good if the comments here could have the option of starting with the most recent at the top instead of having to scroll five miles down the page.
Re: Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection (PS4) - Cut-Throat Action, Old-School Design
@colonelkilgore same. I'm not even sure if I've ever played any of these games but would have liked to get this and at least try them. If I can't manage to get them physical though I'm not touching it. Can't stand this digital only crap (unless it's GOG for pc and I can download, back up and keep my own games without some middleman program in the way.) I've seen some imports on ebay and if I have the cash to spare soon will try there if they still have stock.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 319
Yakuza Kiwami 2.
Finished the main story but going around and doing other stuff now (which is often my favourite part in RPG games), like playing golf, darts, levelling up/buying new skills, other substories, etc.
Awesome game and even though the areas aren't huge I think they're really well made and with loads of things to do.
Re: Sony Issuing The Last of Us 2, Marvel's Iron Man VR Pre-Order Refunds
@Jaz007 I don't think it really matters. Anyone that pre-orders a physical edition could have a code for a digital edition until the version they paid for is shipped out.
And I think the idea that these corporations can't make any allowances during a global pandemic for their fans is off too. Especially when they can still charge those that didn't pre-order the normal price for a digital version.
Anyway whatever, the most stupid thing of all is not even giving a new date. We've gone from one date, to another, to no date at all. It wouldn't have hurt them so much to say end of july or something instead, when this virus could be under control a lot more than it is now and an actual release could be arranged.
Re: Sony Issuing The Last of Us 2, Marvel's Iron Man VR Pre-Order Refunds
There's clearly more important things we have to deal with at a time like this, but this "logistical" issues thing is unreal. They can literally just upload the game to the playstation store whenever they feel like it.
Like a few have already said, maybe this is more about them making money than anything else. That's really sad if so.
The other crazy part is the indefinite delay. Why? Just annouce a date a couple of months further down the line, then if things still aren't sorted put it on the store. People can buy physical later on when they're ready.
And we already had several delays to top releases this year before this virus even hit us (Cyberpunk, Last of Us, Watchdogs, FF7, Bloodlines 2, Marvels Avengers, etc), the gaming industry is a joke at times.