My only gripe at the moment is these games of which I would include pokemon and the ps5 version of cyberpunk as well as GT, Horizon and elden ring are essentially a Xmas line up without the benafit of any holiday time to play them.
@Spiders it's an advert In game but yes I forgot about that one, I think the ad makes sense given the world but it was a mistake by their marketing team too.
@MattBoothDev I disagree because they did do a huge amount of marketing around LGBT issues. In all reality I think both ellie relationships (although they ruined it at the end) and Levs story where some of the better bits, and much preferred Lev to Abbey who just seemed rather nasty piece of work.
Its more that it seems a bit cynical, LGBT people should not just be marketing tools added to a plot in order to gain publicity. With this game despite actually being fairly portrayed I do get the impression marketing was a major reason for inclusion rather than just creating a diverse world. The reaction was manufactured aimed at upsetting those who always get upset and using LGBT people like this is a bit wrong.
Compare this to cyberpunk which had trans and gay charecters as well but never used them a cheap marketing trick.
@Hypoman games can be an unusual product as its media but with films the price is less dictated by the publisher. With most products the pricing would be part of the review ie is it worth the money.
I think allot of people will have been upset to pay £70 for a game you can get for £50 and only did so because of the bizarre behaviour of the publisher.
I'm pretty sure any film suffer the same fate if they did the same.
@MattBoothDev It was in a way as it tried to be representative with trans and gay rights issues but basically it main problem was it had far too many theams and they often didn't gell. Also my biggest complaint story wise was all the magic where charecters would appear out of nowhere, personalities would randomly change, it just didn't feel very well considered as a whole, like they just threw every idea they had at it and didn't think about how this makes a cohesive story.
Indeed I would argue its actually a very good lesson for anyone who wants to write as it contains so many bad examples of storytelling in a game that's good in all other aspects.
Personally I think the last of us part 2 has possibly one of the worse written stories in video gaming as it accidently tly seem a bit far right ie killing a child for the greater good despite that solution making no sense in a world that far gone and gives allot of power to a pretty shifty organisation. Abbey as well seems a pretty nasty piece of work as much as they try to soften her with Lev.
Also it's attempts at being politically correct are undermined by the killing of a disabled charecter to quicken up the gameplay, the extreme violence and the scars conflict being a bit troubling politically being Drunk man claims that its based on Israel Palatine and if so is saying Muslims are savages.
Also there is an extremely good reason to give Horizon a bad review. Sonys really poor practice in selling the Ps5 version for ten pounds more despite giving you it free with the ps4 version which is just an example of terrible business practices.
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Re: Soapbox: It's Okay to Enjoy Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West
@Pixelated I doubt you have read any Orwell especially as it's far more left wing and woke than Horizon lol
Re: Soapbox: It's Okay to Enjoy Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West
@Pixelated really if you think Horizon is woke then your just being silly and missing a fantastic series.
Re: Soapbox: It's Okay to Enjoy Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West
My only gripe at the moment is these games of which I would include pokemon and the ps5 version of cyberpunk as well as GT, Horizon and elden ring are essentially a Xmas line up without the benafit of any holiday time to play them.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
@MattBoothDev https://gaymingmag.com/2019/09/the-last-of-us-2-release-date-trailer-is-troubling-for-queer-audiences/
Basically gay audiences where worried that they where just being used. It can be a delicate balancing act
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
@Spiders it's an advert In game but yes I forgot about that one, I think the ad makes sense given the world but it was a mistake by their marketing team too.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
@MattBoothDev I disagree because they did do a huge amount of marketing around LGBT issues. In all reality I think both ellie relationships (although they ruined it at the end) and Levs story where some of the better bits, and much preferred Lev to Abbey who just seemed rather nasty piece of work.
Its more that it seems a bit cynical, LGBT people should not just be marketing tools added to a plot in order to gain publicity. With this game despite actually being fairly portrayed I do get the impression marketing was a major reason for inclusion rather than just creating a diverse world. The reaction was manufactured aimed at upsetting those who always get upset and using LGBT people like this is a bit wrong.
Compare this to cyberpunk which had trans and gay charecters as well but never used them a cheap marketing trick.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
@Hypoman games can be an unusual product as its media but with films the price is less dictated by the publisher. With most products the pricing would be part of the review ie is it worth the money.
I think allot of people will have been upset to pay £70 for a game you can get for £50 and only did so because of the bizarre behaviour of the publisher.
I'm pretty sure any film suffer the same fate if they did the same.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
@MattBoothDev It was in a way as it tried to be representative with trans and gay rights issues but basically it main problem was it had far too many theams and they often didn't gell. Also my biggest complaint story wise was all the magic where charecters would appear out of nowhere, personalities would randomly change, it just didn't feel very well considered as a whole, like they just threw every idea they had at it and didn't think about how this makes a cohesive story.
Indeed I would argue its actually a very good lesson for anyone who wants to write as it contains so many bad examples of storytelling in a game that's good in all other aspects.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
Personally I think the last of us part 2 has possibly one of the worse written stories in video gaming as it accidently tly seem a bit far right ie killing a child for the greater good despite that solution making no sense in a world that far gone and gives allot of power to a pretty shifty organisation. Abbey as well seems a pretty nasty piece of work as much as they try to soften her with Lev.
Also it's attempts at being politically correct are undermined by the killing of a disabled charecter to quicken up the gameplay, the extreme violence and the scars conflict being a bit troubling politically being Drunk man claims that its based on Israel Palatine and if so is saying Muslims are savages.
Also there is an extremely good reason to give Horizon a bad review. Sonys really poor practice in selling the Ps5 version for ten pounds more despite giving you it free with the ps4 version which is just an example of terrible business practices.