@FatalBubbles so you're insinuating that, because I know about Twitter, I must be a secret user of Twitter?
It's not because it's been around over a decade and high profile?
No, Twitter and Facebook censoring things isn't fascist. That's not how that works 🤷♂️
Conversely, Facebook didn't and probably still doesn't do enough moderation. I left years ago because it was a hellhole of unmoderated content. I reported a video of someone being beheaded in Syria and their moderation team decided it wasn't in foul of their community standards, so I left.
It's not that they weren't being "treated well" it's that their advertisements were being shown under racist, misogynistic and fascist tweets and they didn't want that.
@T-Bone09 What's crazy about it? He didn't buy twitter for "free speech". He bought it so he could turn it into a right wing hellscape.
What you're whining about a laptop is just called "moderation". Social media requires moderation. Without it, it devolves into trolls and mental health problems. See twitter in is current form.
There's nothing political about this. It's just an observation of the facts.
@Veritas7Ax it's even more pronounced in the UK, as Sony don't allow digital codes to be sold in retailers, so they're the only place to buy digital games. They have a monopoly.
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is £40-£50 on Amazon pro m pretty much all the time. When not on sale, that's £70 on PSN.
@davebaby i got my Pro and disc drive in a bundle from Very. As a new customer I signed up for the credit account and got 20% off.
So the whole bundle worked out at £635 instead of £800 and the best part was I paid cash and didn't use the Very (pun intended) expensive credit account.
@Atreus97 I mean, it only hurts CDPR not to, not Sony. Sony seem to have run out of ducks, with the PS5 Pro pricing. Whereas, just as the Phantom Liberty DLC drove a bunch of new sales (like mine) a PS5 Pro patch could drive a few more (especially if it's done well).
@Mostik Absolutely. Wouldn't have gone through with it myself if I had to use the credit as I think the total cost would've been about £1,200, which is absolutely crazy. The hard search has already hit my credit score but I don't really care about it.
The Edge controller is such a scam. Apparently the replacement thing sticks are next to impossible to buy and they didn't even fix the drift issue, which is fixable and therefore wouldn't necessitate removable thumb sticks.
Very have an 20% offer on for new customers that sign up for a credit account with them. It works on the PS5 Pro. The catch is you're taking a hard credit search on your record, but you don't actually need to use the credit to get the offer and can pay in full using your card.
The code is WELCOME and I have ordered a PS5 Pro disc bundle for £635 (instead of £794).
I do NOT recommend using the credit account for anything as the APR is ridiculous. I only recommend doing this if you're going to pay with your card.
I'd buy this one. One of the few games Microsoft did really well on. I think it's one of the few studios they left to get on with it after buying them, rather then having a capitalbro looming over them 24/7 chasing the upward line.
@ApostateMage £800, mate. My base PS5 has a disc drive, as do, apparently, 85% of PS5s sold. To be able to play any of my disc games, which is about 20, I need the disc drive.
So it's an £800 console if your need feature parity.
Man, you guys really, really want people to buy this thing for £800, eh? I still haven't moved on from the price and I'm unlikely to until the price moves.
Honestly disgusting. Not the idea of a digital only console, of course. Who'd be bothered by that, but that they're putting this rubbish on the packaging.
5 years only to fail really hard and upset millions is fans.
When the PS4 Pro come out it's was £450, £50 more than the £399 PS4 launch price.
The PS5 Pro is £830 and the launch PS5 was £430.
Absolutely insane. There's no logistical reasoning that makes this price ok. It's doubled the launch price. The price of the Yen and silicone doesn't matter.
@thiagoauler 85% of PS5s are equipped with a disc drive. Sony counts skins, digital currency and battle packs as digital purchase in these figures. They're fudging the numbers to make it look like people but physical less than they actually do.
£700 is a total joke. No disc drive (I'm not buying one separately - it should be included).
This is supposed to be a "Pro" console but they can't even throw in a cheap £25 stand and include the disc drive? Sony own the Blu-Ray licensing and produce millions of them. They can include one for free at that price.
@Rob3008 They're definitely turning a profit this generation, rather than loss leading on the console and making up for it on accessories and software.
I suspect the lack of competition is part of it, but not necessarily because it's intentional, but that there's simply more demand for PS5 Dual Sense controllers because there's more PS5s out there.
PS Stars is terrible anyway. However, obviously some people were getting "too much" value from the service and opting for the credit instead of the useless rubbish for the virtual shelf.
Firstly, there's no reward for having bought a game physically. Secondly, there's no reward if you've bought a game recently. I.E. I bought a game, digitally, only to see it had extra points available but since I didn't check and start the promotion, I can't get the bonus points.
Finally, not getting points for my PS Plus subscription is a slap on the face. I'll likely never get enough for £20 in credit ever again.
£720 for an SSD and they give you a month of PS Plus Premium... Worth, what, £20? Jesus.
I suppose there didn't need to be anything at all given away since you're still getting your SSD's worth but it hardly seems worth putting it on the box. Can you even add a free month if you have already subscribed?
Calling the Playstation store authoritarian is ridiculously tone deaf and infantile.
Also, this isn't a good idea. People are stupid. Metacritic is a shining example of this, as are Steam's reviews. Ok, Steam's reviews aren't on the same page as metacritic, but there's 10 stupid reviews for every 1 decent review.
Steam also seems to think I care what YouTubers think.
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Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@GreatAuk so don't call the fascists fascist? What else are people supposed to do? Say nothing?
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@FatalBubbles so you're insinuating that, because I know about Twitter, I must be a secret user of Twitter?
It's not because it's been around over a decade and high profile?
No, Twitter and Facebook censoring things isn't fascist. That's not how that works 🤷♂️
Conversely, Facebook didn't and probably still doesn't do enough moderation. I left years ago because it was a hellhole of unmoderated content. I reported a video of someone being beheaded in Syria and their moderation team decided it wasn't in foul of their community standards, so I left.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@Gunnerzaurus yeah, but that's oversimplified.
It's not that they weren't being "treated well" it's that their advertisements were being shown under racist, misogynistic and fascist tweets and they didn't want that.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
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Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@T-Bone09 😂 what am I paranoid about? I'm just explaining what the facts are
Twitter was a cesspit before Musk bought it and then he threw out the guardrails and it's just gotten worse 🤷♂️
I've never had a Twitter account so one absolutely no skin in the game.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
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Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@GreatAuk no, they're calling people Nazis because they're exhibiting fascist tendancies.
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Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@T-Bone09 What's crazy about it? He didn't buy twitter for "free speech". He bought it so he could turn it into a right wing hellscape.
What you're whining about a laptop is just called "moderation". Social media requires moderation. Without it, it devolves into trolls and mental health problems. See twitter in is current form.
There's nothing political about this. It's just an observation of the facts.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
I didn't have a Twitter account before it went mental and I see no reason to bother with a bsky account.
Re: PS5 Pro Gives Dying Light 2 Improved Graphics Modes, Better Resolutions
Both 30FPS modes absolutely suck. Performance is pretty good with VRR but balanced is a solid 60FPS and slightly better image quality.
Re: PS5 Disc Drive Stock Still a Source of Intense Irritation for Many
@Veritas7Ax it's even more pronounced in the UK, as Sony don't allow digital codes to be sold in retailers, so they're the only place to buy digital games. They have a monopoly.
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is £40-£50 on Amazon pro m pretty much all the time. When not on sale, that's £70 on PSN.
Re: PS5 Disc Drive Stock Still a Source of Intense Irritation for Many
@davebaby i got my Pro and disc drive in a bundle from Very. As a new customer I signed up for the credit account and got 20% off.
So the whole bundle worked out at £635 instead of £800 and the best part was I paid cash and didn't use the Very (pun intended) expensive credit account.
Re: PS5 Disc Drive Stock Still a Source of Intense Irritation for Many
It's overpriced at £100. It's easily a £40 part.
Re: 'No Plans' for Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 Pro Patch, CD Projekt Red Confirms
@Atreus97 I mean, it only hurts CDPR not to, not Sony. Sony seem to have run out of ducks, with the PS5 Pro pricing. Whereas, just as the Phantom Liberty DLC drove a bunch of new sales (like mine) a PS5 Pro patch could drive a few more (especially if it's done well).
Re: PS5 Consoles, Controllers, and PSVR2 Discounts for Black Friday Seemingly Revealed
@Mostik Absolutely. Wouldn't have gone through with it myself if I had to use the credit as I think the total cost would've been about £1,200, which is absolutely crazy. The hard search has already hit my credit score but I don't really care about it.
Re: PS5 Consoles, Controllers, and PSVR2 Discounts for Black Friday Seemingly Revealed
@themightyant mines not due to be delivered until the 29th November 😐 right at the end of my week off 😂
I ordered last Wednesday and they had disc bundles available, one per customer!
Re: PS5 Consoles, Controllers, and PSVR2 Discounts for Black Friday Seemingly Revealed
The Edge controller is such a scam. Apparently the replacement thing sticks are next to impossible to buy and they didn't even fix the drift issue, which is fixable and therefore wouldn't necessitate removable thumb sticks.
Re: PS5 Consoles, PSVR2 Discounts for Black Friday Seemingly Revealed
Very have an 20% offer on for new customers that sign up for a credit account with them. It works on the PS5 Pro. The catch is you're taking a hard credit search on your record, but you don't actually need to use the credit to get the offer and can pay in full using your card.
The code is WELCOME and I have ordered a PS5 Pro disc bundle for £635 (instead of £794).
I do NOT recommend using the credit account for anything as the APR is ridiculous. I only recommend doing this if you're going to pay with your card.
Re: PlayStation Has Swiftly Solved Its Profitability Problem
Told you, they're ganking us on the prices.
Re: Hypnotic PS5 Pro Boot Screen, Background Worth the Upgrade
@Vaako007 maybe it's because the articles are so heavily slanted it's obvious
Re: Hypnotic PS5 Pro Boot Screen, Background Worth the Upgrade
@crashcontrol that's £800 if you want the full feature set
Re: 'Mind Boggling' Horizon Forbidden West Has the Best Console Image Quality Ever on PS5 Pro
I literally don't care. The PS5 Pro is too much money for what it is and sets a terrible precedent in terms of gouging on price.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS5 Pro?
Where's the "no, but if it weren't so stupidly priced, I would" option?
Re: Round Up: PS5 Pro Reviews Love New Tech and Its Glimpse of PS6 Potential
NB: Reviewers didn't have to pay £800 for one
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
No I'm not planning on getting a PS5 Pro and contributing to a serious problem
Re: Xbox's Legendary Strategy Series Seemingly Set to Invade PS5
I'd buy this one. One of the few games Microsoft did really well on. I think it's one of the few studios they left to get on with it after buying them, rather then having a capitalbro looming over them 24/7 chasing the upward line.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Will Literally Melt Your Face Off on PS5 Pro
@ApostateMage £800, mate. My base PS5 has a disc drive, as do, apparently, 85% of PS5s sold. To be able to play any of my disc games, which is about 20, I need the disc drive.
So it's an £800 console if your need feature parity.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Will Literally Melt Your Face Off on PS5 Pro
Man, you guys really, really want people to buy this thing for £800, eh? I still haven't moved on from the price and I'm unlikely to until the price moves.
Re: PS5 Pro Packaging Flaunts Its Disc-Free Nature
Honestly disgusting. Not the idea of a digital only console, of course. Who'd be bothered by that, but that they're putting this rubbish on the packaging.
Re: PS5 Pro was a '5-Year Project', In Development Before PS5's Launch
5 years only to fail really hard and upset millions is fans.
When the PS4 Pro come out it's was £450, £50 more than the £399 PS4 launch price.
The PS5 Pro is £830 and the launch PS5 was £430.
Absolutely insane. There's no logistical reasoning that makes this price ok. It's doubled the launch price. The price of the Yen and silicone doesn't matter.
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
I will keep not buying them.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
@thiagoauler 85% of PS5s are equipped with a disc drive. Sony counts skins, digital currency and battle packs as digital purchase in these figures. They're fudging the numbers to make it look like people but physical less than they actually do.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
I call BS on this one. Most PS5s have a disc.
Re: Fans Are Concerned Until Dawn PS4 Could Be Delisted Following PS5 Remake's Release
You know what they can't delist? My physical copy of the PS4 game.
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
Where's the "nope, it's too expensive" poll option?
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Step 1, lose all sense
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PS5 Pro Is 'Pure Eye Candy at Race Car Levels of Performance'
Literally none of the graphics performance is worth £800 for a console.
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
@Psnfanboy79 You don't need a "really good PC" to compete with a PS5 Pro, though.
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
I want a £600 PS5 Pro with a disc drive more then anything.
Re: Astro Bot Update 1.003 Is Available to Download on PS5 Now
I have already managed the platinum last Sunday 👌
Re: PS5 Pro Can Run PS4 Games Better Via Improved Backwards Compatibility
Unless it's going to enable 60FPS in 30FPS locked PS4 games then it's worthless.
There's a load of good PS4 games that hold up today and need a 60FPS PS5 patch
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
£700 is a total joke. No disc drive (I'm not buying one separately - it should be included).
This is supposed to be a "Pro" console but they can't even throw in a cheap £25 stand and include the disc drive? Sony own the Blu-Ray licensing and produce millions of them. They can include one for free at that price.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
Lol, "worry"? It just makes me angrier. It should be included and be £599.99 or less. Otherwise they can screw off.
Re: Sony Increases PS5 Controller Prices in US, Europe, and More
@Rob3008 They're definitely turning a profit this generation, rather than loss leading on the console and making up for it on accessories and software.
I suspect the lack of competition is part of it, but not necessarily because it's intentional, but that there's simply more demand for PS5 Dual Sense controllers because there's more PS5s out there.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
@Paranoimia No one wants live service games with battle passes, paid skins and all the other shady selling tactics that go with it.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
>Sony needs a cash cow, because its single player games are costing too much and taking too long to make.
Author is part of the problem. Single player games do not cost too much and don't take any longer than rubbish like this.
They spent $200m on this live service crap. That could've probably paid for another Uncharted game.
Re: Sony to Short-Change PS Stars Members with PS Plus Renewals Starting Next Year
PS Stars is terrible anyway. However, obviously some people were getting "too much" value from the service and opting for the credit instead of the useless rubbish for the virtual shelf.
Firstly, there's no reward for having bought a game physically. Secondly, there's no reward if you've bought a game recently. I.E. I bought a game, digitally, only to see it had extra points available but since I didn't check and start the promotion, I can't get the bonus points.
Finally, not getting points for my PS Plus subscription is a slap on the face. I'll likely never get enough for £20 in credit ever again.
Re: PS5 Gets a Staggering, Officially Licensed 8TB SSD
£720 for an SSD and they give you a month of PS Plus Premium... Worth, what, £20? Jesus.
I suppose there didn't need to be anything at all given away since you're still getting your SSD's worth but it hardly seems worth putting it on the box. Can you even add a free month if you have already subscribed?
Re: Sony Appears to Be Dabbling with Written User Reviews on the PS Store
Calling the Playstation store authoritarian is ridiculously tone deaf and infantile.
Also, this isn't a good idea. People are stupid. Metacritic is a shining example of this, as are Steam's reviews. Ok, Steam's reviews aren't on the same page as metacritic, but there's 10 stupid reviews for every 1 decent review.
Steam also seems to think I care what YouTubers think.