Controversy aside, this is probably the game I’m most looking forward to. We wait such a long time for games these days, another month isn’t going to kill me.
@naruball I’d imagine a new Afro Samurai would be fine, as it’s true to its source (an anime). I’m quite looking forward to seeing how they integrate the Yasuke story into a game about sneaky assassins, as it doesn’t seem to fit. It may be a masterclass, it may fall short, but I’ll still be buying.
The DEI accusation doesn’t bother me, but I can see where it’s come from. There have been some glaringly obvious alterations to sources in media to include people of colour over the last few years, like Triss being played by a black lady in the Witcher, and it sticks in some people’s craws because they want parity with the source text.
@DennisReynolds in fairness I had the same issue with Syndicate, it didn’t seem to fit.
I enjoyed Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla, but they weren’t Assassins Creed games. My frustration is that Japan is the perfect setting for an AC game that’s actually an AC game. Who knows, maybe it will be. I’ll be buying it anyway because I enjoy Ubi games and I’ve wanted an AC set in Japan since forever, but it’s sad to see how difficult they’ve made it for themselves.
@DennisReynolds they could be totally unsubstantiated so that’s fair enough. His colour makes no odds to me, I pre ordered the gold edition and I will do so again when they rerelease it.
Given the game follows on from Mirage, which was infinitely more stealth focused than Valhalla, and given the amount of effort they’ve clearly put into improving the stealth mechanics, it seems a weird design choice to have a character that is the complete antithesis of these things. Especially when the character is so controversial, rightly or wrongly. It seems borderline suicidal.
@ShadowofSparta yes, so why was this polarising choice really needed when the game would have been everything it needed to be without it? Seems like a crazy decision. I’m talking gameplay here, not race.
@DennisReynolds if the rumours are true, and they removed a Japanese samurai as a protagonist to shoehorn Yasuke in, then that is grounds for criticism because the motive is quite clear. Regardless, a samurai with zero stealth skills, be they black, Japanese or white, isn’t a great gameplay choice in a game about sneakily assassinating people.
@Deoxyr1bose my issue with Yasuke isn’t race related, but gameplay related. He doesn’t need to be there - Mirage put the series back towards its roots, the game should have been about just the female protagonist. The whole Assasins thing tying into Japanese ninja/shinobi or whatever would have been perfect and wouldn’t have raised any eyebrows. But now we have a guy who is essentially a tank in what really should have been a stealth game (look at the new stealth mechanics). Yasuke should have been a side character, and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
I know this kind of thing has its place, but I really wish it didn’t. It just ends up encouraging developers put 90% of their efforts into online stuff that isn’t anywhere near the quality of the single player experiences they’ve made a name from (Rockstar).
The quality and scope of games tends to massively decrease once it’s got an online component attached to draw in the 12 year olds.
@AlexPorto they did deliver on that premise, as the female protagonist is a Japanese ninja, exactly what you’d expect from an AC game set in Japan. It was a weird decision to shoehorn Yasuke in, even if it was a Japanese character in his place. A bulldozing bloke who’s terrible at stealth doesn’t fit the lore, and sticks out especially after Mirage returned the series to its roots, and Shadows has a lot of new stealth mechanics. I do think the diversity pick accusation has some merit, they could have picked any number of historical figures over Yasuke, but I’ve still pre ordered. I’ll be using the character that suits the game.
@Shinnok789 I know what you mean, but for things like The Witcher, 100 hours is fine for me. It’ll be number one on my playlist and the longer it lasts, the better. I must have replayed TW3 10 times over the years.
Hopefully, Playground sat down and announced that the location for Horizon 6 was some random country that nobody’s been asking for, and that prompted these guys to get together and create the game everyone wants - an open world Japanese street racer.
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Re: Poll: Are You Playing Assassin's Creed Shadows?
I’m playing. Best AC game I’ve played so far, it’s right on the money.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, Now Out 20th March
Controversy aside, this is probably the game I’m most looking forward to. We wait such a long time for games these days, another month isn’t going to kill me.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Reportedly Has a Co-Op Game Mode in Development
Never cared for multiplayer in any game to be honest, much less a single player RPG.
It always comes at the expense of the single player experience. Look at the difference in quality between GTA 4 and 5 for example.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@naruball I’d imagine a new Afro Samurai would be fine, as it’s true to its source (an anime). I’m quite looking forward to seeing how they integrate the Yasuke story into a game about sneaky assassins, as it doesn’t seem to fit. It may be a masterclass, it may fall short, but I’ll still be buying.
The DEI accusation doesn’t bother me, but I can see where it’s come from. There have been some glaringly obvious alterations to sources in media to include people of colour over the last few years, like Triss being played by a black lady in the Witcher, and it sticks in some people’s craws because they want parity with the source text.
Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
@DennisReynolds in fairness I had the same issue with Syndicate, it didn’t seem to fit.
I enjoyed Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla, but they weren’t Assassins Creed games. My frustration is that Japan is the perfect setting for an AC game that’s actually an AC game. Who knows, maybe it will be. I’ll be buying it anyway because I enjoy Ubi games and I’ve wanted an AC set in Japan since forever, but it’s sad to see how difficult they’ve made it for themselves.
Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
@DennisReynolds they could be totally unsubstantiated so that’s fair enough. His colour makes no odds to me, I pre ordered the gold edition and I will do so again when they rerelease it.
Given the game follows on from Mirage, which was infinitely more stealth focused than Valhalla, and given the amount of effort they’ve clearly put into improving the stealth mechanics, it seems a weird design choice to have a character that is the complete antithesis of these things. Especially when the character is so controversial, rightly or wrongly. It seems borderline suicidal.
Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
@ShadowofSparta yes, so why was this polarising choice really needed when the game would have been everything it needed to be without it? Seems like a crazy decision. I’m talking gameplay here, not race.
Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
@DennisReynolds if the rumours are true, and they removed a Japanese samurai as a protagonist to shoehorn Yasuke in, then that is grounds for criticism because the motive is quite clear. Regardless, a samurai with zero stealth skills, be they black, Japanese or white, isn’t a great gameplay choice in a game about sneakily assassinating people.
Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
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Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
@Deoxyr1bose my issue with Yasuke isn’t race related, but gameplay related. He doesn’t need to be there - Mirage put the series back towards its roots, the game should have been about just the female protagonist. The whole Assasins thing tying into Japanese ninja/shinobi or whatever would have been perfect and wouldn’t have raised any eyebrows. But now we have a guy who is essentially a tank in what really should have been a stealth game (look at the new stealth mechanics). Yasuke should have been a side character, and nobody would have batted an eyelid.
Re: Sony's Live Service Push 'No Joke', A Lot of People Working on Horizon Online
I know this kind of thing has its place, but I really wish it didn’t. It just ends up encouraging developers put 90% of their efforts into online stuff that isn’t anywhere near the quality of the single player experiences they’ve made a name from (Rockstar).
The quality and scope of games tends to massively decrease once it’s got an online component attached to draw in the 12 year olds.
Re: Ubisoft Board Orders Internal Investigation and Review into Company's Financial Woes
@AlexPorto they did deliver on that premise, as the female protagonist is a Japanese ninja, exactly what you’d expect from an AC game set in Japan. It was a weird decision to shoehorn Yasuke in, even if it was a Japanese character in his place. A bulldozing bloke who’s terrible at stealth doesn’t fit the lore, and sticks out especially after Mirage returned the series to its roots, and Shadows has a lot of new stealth mechanics. I do think the diversity pick accusation has some merit, they could have picked any number of historical figures over Yasuke, but I’ve still pre ordered. I’ll be using the character that suits the game.
Re: Preview: Assassin's Creed Shadows' Two Characters Will Satisfy Both Old and New Fans on PS5
Looking forward to this more than anything else if I’m honest.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Emerges with 13 Minutes of Stabby, Smashy Gameplay
@homelesscretin the ceiling grab was straight of Tenchu. Can’t wait for this.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Emerges with 13 Minutes of Stabby, Smashy Gameplay
The ninja gameplay looks great, and that’s what I’m interested in. Day one for me.
Re: CD Projekt Red Wants to Release Major Games More Frequently
@Shinnok789 I know what you mean, but for things like The Witcher, 100 hours is fine for me. It’ll be number one on my playlist and the longer it lasts, the better. I must have replayed TW3 10 times over the years.
Re: Hnngh! Hogwarts Legacy PS5, PS4 Launch Trailer Teases a Truly Magical Adventure
@Perryg92 all the best man
Re: New AAA Studio Formed Out of Forza Horizon 5, EA Talent
Hopefully, Playground sat down and announced that the location for Horizon 6 was some random country that nobody’s been asking for, and that prompted these guys to get together and create the game everyone wants - an open world Japanese street racer.