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I don't know why you shine a light on this. There will always be a vocal minority on social media who react negatively to everything, it's not newsworthy.

Returnal was almost 4 years ago and I was hoping their next game was nearing a reveal, but this sounds like it might be a good way off still.

I don't think I've ever used rest mode.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare You make me sick!

I'm gonna start Nine Sols.

It's a lot easier to create a hero shooter when you don't have to create any of the heroes.

@Dalamar It's supporting devs at the end of the day. An enormous amount of work has been put in to this sequel, and giving something back to help test it before it's official release is something a lot of people clearly want to do.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare It happens. I remember playing Flimbo's Quest on the Commodore 64 and thinking it was the best thing ever, neither my friends or I knew what a frame was. It definitely felt like a more positive and less critical medium growing up.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I understand where you're coming from and I agree with a lot of that.

Funnily enough, I own a Switch and the fps doesn't bother me at all when not docked, but it's not expectation or perspective, my problem only comes in to play with display size. Framerates never bothered me until I began playing on a 55", and now 65" LG oled. I don't know if what I find so jarring is specific to this brand, but I just don't enjoy playing anything on it that drops out of that 60fps range anymore.

I hope negotiations with Trigger are ongoing, the animation style was a big reason it was so enjoyable for me.

@Sakai You must not have been around for the Amiga CD 32, Sega Mega CD or Atari Jaguar to name a few. Also, the Pro barely scrapes in at number 10 in the top 10 most expensive consoles ever released, when adjusted for inflation of course.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare

I would say... if you're running a VRR screen, I actually doubt most gamers could tell if it's hitting a locked 60FPS (unless they've watched a DF video to tell them).

Probably true for most. As you say, it's more about how it feels while playing.

For me, the issue isn't whether or not I can tell it's completely locked. My problem is that vrr on my tv doesn't help if the game in question is frequently dropping below the PS5's limited window, in those cases a fluctuating framerate is glaringly obvious and negatively impacts my experience. I stopped playing DD2 for this reason on the base and the pro has solved that for me.

@Medic_alert It's a slight rewording of a very famous quote from a former American president, but he's right and it's a good approach to take in many aspects.

It was never something I focused on until I upgraded to a display that brought those issues glaringly to the forefront. Unfortunately, I can't help noticing it now.

@__jamiie Yeah it's unfortunate and undoubtedly happens to the guys over at PureXbox as well. I participate when it's applicable to me but I've stopped paying much attention to the results.

@Medic_alert It's a strange one, especially coming from Atlus. The base PS5 version is erratic and will dip in to the low 40's at times. The pro has completely stabilised it without a patch.

I'm very happy with it. It's results will get better when devs have time to take advantage of it during full development rather than applying patches at the end stage, but a lot of what I've tested so far is noticeably better. PSSR is obviously causing issues with some in early implementation but is performing excellently for others.

My only real criticism, I unfortunately received one that's rather loud and has a noticeable buzz to it. My brother's in comparison is completely silent.

@Medic_alert

what improvements are you seeing on unpatched PS5 games?

I'm currently playing Metaphor which runs great at 60fps unpatched, framerate is all over the place on base PS5.

@Kloppo

I wonder how many people voting ‘I regret buying one’ are playing on an old 1080p screen

Every time I see an article with a poll attached I wonder how many people contribute that don't like Sony, don't own a PlayStation or the product in question, or just want to troll. They are essentially completely pointless when you can't verify your participants.

Was he wearing a bow tie and sitting on Satya's lap when he said this.

I haven't had a chance to test it yet, still downloading a ton of stuff, but this will be one of the first I try as I dropped the game fairly early due to its ps5 performance. I did see the DF video mentioning pssr causing conflicts with rt on though.

@BolkaRover One for the UK crowd 😄

@Blauwe_Chimay I remember it fondly. The Trocadero was a great place to visit as a kid.

This unlocked a core memory. I remember a summer holiday in 1994 to a Spanish town named Tossa, and during that trip, an 11yr old me put nearly £40 my grandad had given me in to a Virtua Fighter arcade machine. The subsequent bollocking from my family was unforgettable. Thinking back, that towns name was an apt description of me.

Metaphor at 60 without a patch, sweet baby jesus!

I just saw this on reddit and whilst a minor thing, I really like the look of it.

Background option for the welcome screen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYZJHp2m43E

I'll be buying this again, it's one of my all time favourites.

@MrPeanutbutterz Yeah probably, but they're still leaving money on the table by not ensuring it's availability for both.

I would imagine this isn't a difficult component for them to have manufactured, so why it's so hard to secure one when two sku's require it is bizarre.

@themightyant Same to you mate.

@themightyant Purely speculation, but I suspect some of what gets published there comes from sources who can't publicly disclose their position. It's an interesting forum though.

Anyway, I appreciate your input, mighty, you're always unbiased and level headed with your comments here.

Are you looking forward to Michael's video on the pro tomorrow?

@themightyant I've tried to pinpoint exactly where the sales data on sold units is coming from here as installbase appears to be a thorough platform with regard to data and market analysis, but I can't find anything other than the dataset comparison as you've mentioned. It's likely not far off, but you're absolutely right that these kinds of calculations are open to mistakes and inaccuracies.

@LikelySatan I have and it's another great example of the genre.

@themightyant Apologies for the late reply, mighty, I just woke up.

The data was compiled by a user on the installbase forum named Astral_lion02 - https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/uk-sales-week-43-2024-oct-20-oct-26.3142/#post-285208

It was calculated using the Gi.biz podcast with Chris Dring.

Also discussed here - https://www.resetera.com/threads/gbiz-uk-digital-physical-sales-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-sales-down-15-on-mwiii-46-on-mwii-xbox-67-pc-18-ps5-30.1026924/

I haven't listened to the podcast myself but the thread has generated nearly 400 replies with nobody disputing the figures. There's obviously some rounding as the numbers are too clean, but this appears to be an accurate depiction of week 1 performance.

@PuppetMaster I would love to see another game from them but it doesn't look good. Ruiner was 7 years ago now, and it's been over a year since they last teased their current project on Twitter.

Unfortunately, this happened at the start of the year as well https://www.eurogamer.net/ruiner-developer-reikon-games-lays-off-half-its-studio

@tameshiyaku Yeah it's excellent.

This reminds me of Ruiner, a fantastic twin stick that's only a couple of quid on the store at the minute.

If it's short I'll probably wait for a sale, but I'll definitely grab this at some point.

@Banjo-

Truth is, Xbox digital sales are unknown because Microsoft hasn't reveal them and they represent 91% of Xbox sales. That's all I wanted to say.

But why are you still saying it when we know what they are?. Chris Dring, the guy who reports these statistics as part of his job, obviously isn't sharing incorrect or inaccurate data.

These are the first week numbers for the UK, retail & digital, comparing the last three titles.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Total sales : 833,000 units

PS5: 285,000 units (34%)
PC: 225,000 units (27%) [Steam: 71,000]
Xbox: 221,000 units (27%)
PS4: 102,000 units (12%)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Total sales : 529,000 units

PS5: 242,000 units (46%)
Xbox: 136,000 units (26%)
PC: 88,000 units (17%)
PS4: 63,000 units (12%)

Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Total sales : 450,000 units

PS5: 315,000 units (70%)
PC: 72,000 units (16%)
Xbox: 45,000 units (10%)
PS4: 18,000 units (4%)

@IOI I guess you're purposely ignoring inflation because the PS5 Pro barely scrapes in to the top 10 most expensive when taken in to consideration.

I wonder what changes Larian have made.

Sad to hear but not surprising. Hopefully most of them can find positions in other first party studios.

You would think everything Hermen does going forward will be scrutinised by Yoshida and everyone above him now. I imagine there's an enormous amount of added pressure on him.

@carlos82 I wasn't aware of that, I wrongly assumed it tracked all active players. That's actually even more impressive then.

Edit - I'll delete my previous comment as it's wholly inaccurate for the pc platform.

@carlos82 People playing on gamepass on PC don't contribute to concurrent players?

@Medic_alert

@Shepherd_Tallon Understandable, I don't think I'll ever reach an age where I don't love this time of year.

@Shepherd_Tallon If you manage to leave it in its box for another 7 weeks I admire the restraint. I can't wait to download and start Dragon Age on the 7th. I'm just hoping it reviews well at this point.

16 days and counting.

@Medic_alert Same here.

I think the crux for many is they want the option to always be there, and they probably feel like they're slowly being ushered in to a future where that might not be a reality. I don't imagine it happening any time soon, at least not for another 8 year generation, but I think it's coming.

@Medic_alert True, they're never going to match what is technically a grey market, and physical will always be slightly cheaper at launch, but the difference is often not as much as people assume. Metaphor for example is £49.95 physical, and I paid £53.60 for digital.

@Medic_alert

Interesting to see how many people have said digital being too expensive is the reason they don't buy new games that way. That is only a thing on PS, on Xbox and Steam you can get codes from resellers that make digital cheaper.

You can do this on PS as well, in the UK at least, not sure about other markets. Shopto is the official Sony reseller here. As a gold member a £70 card is £60. I haven't paid full price for a digital release once this gen.

That being said, hopefully the option of a drive and support for physical will be around for a long time to come.

Some fuel for the naysayers to keep making blanket statements.

@SystemAddict Pretty much the same boat. I was burnt out on the formula so I passed on it at release, but I've admired the theme and art style since I first saw it.

@NEStalgia That sounds amazing. What headset are you using?

@NEStalgia

It'd run well on a potato. But not on the consoles.

It ran like crap on tons of different configurations up until a patch a few weeks ago, and even that hasn't fully resolved it. You just have to Google DD2 pc performance and see the complaints for yourself. It's a horribly optimised game, and not just on console.

For anyone who skipped this like myself, the base game is currently on sale for £29.99 on the UK store until November 1st.

I'll probably start my first playthrough after finishing Dragon Age.

@HonestHick

Just the 10% overclock which won’t move the needle for those CPU bound games.

It might, we'll have to wait and see. On paper it sounds insignificant, but as shown with Dragons dogma 2, a comparative scenario running through the city had the pro averaging 20fps more than the base and was much closer to it's 60fps target. Still not perfect in a poorly optimised game, but it was running a lot better on the "same cpu". This would also fall in to the PlayStation's vrr window which those of us with compatible displays will benefit from.

@NEStalgia

Yeah but I'd be kinder to it if it offered appropriate upgrades for the coin.

It does, but we've already been over this. Double the drive space, a much improved gpu, faster memory, an overclocked cpu, and a proprietary ai upscaler. What you think that's worth is subjective, but as previously discussed, you're not building it for $699.

I'm not sure what your almost £500 cpu has to do with a cpu bound games comparative performance though.