While we’d expected this year to be all about PlayStation 5, a combination of coronavirus and Sony’s general reluctance means we’ve had to make do with a logo thus far. Fortunately, that similar-looking symbol has gone on to become one of the most liked gaming images in Instagram history, but there’s no doubt that fans’ patience is beginning to wear thin as forum goers bemoan the lack of information.
Microsoft, perhaps in dire need of publicity wins, has been much more outspoken about its device – and it’s allowed tech experts Digital Foundry to peek behind the curtain as part of a colossal Xbox Series X expose. It’s a dense read, but it ultimately boils down to an eye-watering 12.155 teraflops of GPU compute power – double that of the already potent Xbox One X.
We’ll leave you to read the full breakdown or sister site Pure Xbox’s summary, but features that could certainly have Sony sweating include the ability to suspend multiple games at once, as well as system-wide optimisations to reduce screen tear and input lag. Perhaps most interesting of all, the Redmond firm’s continued investment into backwards compatibility means all titles will be updated to support HDR.
It’ll be interesting to see whether this new information coaxes Sony out of its slumber, or whether coronavirus has seriously impeded its communication plans for PS5. The world will be listening when the Japanese giant eventually decides to speak, but after catching Microsoft cold with a series of Wired reports last year, it feels like it’s been all together too quiet of late.
[source eurogamer.net, via purexbox.com]
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That is all well and good but;
1) No exclusives Xbox Series X games for the 1st year
2) No Xbox exclusives that excite me atm
Sony wins (for me)
I thought Pure Xbox shut down years ago...
Anyway, I'm glad they're being forthcoming, but there are too many rumors about big PS5 exclusives for me to even think about committing to a rival right now.
It all comes down to games at the end of the day but have to say Microsoft are getting a lot of things right so far.
Sony really needs to match a lot if not all of these features. Though there's still a very slim chance I will ever get one, I love what MS is doing here.
I've just been watching this and the X is an incredibly impressive piece of hardware and one that PS5 might not be able to match. Unless Sony have massively stepped up their backwards compatibility then this could be a long long way ahead in that regard. This is a very exciting machine regardless of people's allegiances
On another note, I have to give the Xbox twitter account credit for showing a size comparison between the Series X and a fridge.
Good humor there.
@Ralizah They reopened PureXbox last week. Like literally just picked up where they left off, you can't even tell except for the 3 year gap in articles. Still looking forward to Beyond Good & Evil 2 in 2016. 😉
Price?
Release date?
Games?
Specs are more for PC gamers.
@rjejr Are they? I'm interested in specs.
You know...I come to playstation sites for... you guessed it. Playstation news, which this isn't. But to the point, ok, Microsoft released info on a machine im currently not interested in, good for them. We'll hear from Sony at some point.
Even if the Series X is more powerful and has certain features that are better than the PS5, you can bet Sony will eventually release something like a PS5 Pro when the PS5 is in its mid-life cycle but then I can also see Microsoft bringing something out like a Series XL (a silly name I know) to do one better again like they did with the Xbox One X but we’re a way off if anything like that happens.
Since when was the Pure Xbox site back up and running? This is great news for me as an Xbox gamer but I’ll still be frequenting this site on a daily basis since joining over 5 years ago.
I don't care much for better graphics or pausing multiple games at once (who plays 2 at once?), I care about the exclusives and let's face it sonys exclusives are miles ahead of xbox and I'd say on par with Nintendo, also the JRPG's will all most likely be missing the Xbox console apart from what square Enix produce
I swear xbox is making a beast machine. Sony better show something at least as good. 😊 I never bought a xbox before but oh boy all third party games. Machine maybe 🤔.
I didn’t know Pure Xbox was back. I gotta take a look.
Might be more powerful but look how well One X sold. I dont think Sony have much to fear as long as they are competitive to a point with the ps5 and deliver on the killer exclusive front. I for one would never go xbox even if the console was 3x more powerful than the ps5... Ive had my fill of Forza, Halo and gears so there would be no need to.
I find it interesting that Xbox isn’t holding this information back. Makes me think that they don’t believe that their production will be affected by coronavirus
@SegaBlueSky like what
@Cutmastavictory Well, this is obviously relevant to PlayStation to an extent.
I bet Sony was just waiting for this to happen so that they could come out with a better version of what they have
We can all say how we don't care about power so this still means Sony is the best yadda yadda yadda.
But Sony have released practically NOTHING apart from an uninspired logo reveal and a average looking third party timed exclusive.
They need to communicate soon, as it only fuels potential rumours of a bad strategy within the company.
If we don't get any news from Sony directly by May, then we all have to accept that something isn't right.
I don't care about Xbox. I will buy a ps5.
The Switch is so much weaker and still is more appealing than Xbox Series X, all about the games for me
@playstation_king Pausing multiple games is useful for systems shared by multiple users (families) or if you're playing a long single-player game and want to take a break with a short game or get pulled into a multi-player game request.
1- XSeX Controler is exaclty X360 controler with better D-Pad and Share button (sooo inovation here)
2- How they could telling people that XSeX Specs are soo advanced when it has only 4 gig Ram (in GDDR6 of course) and 12 CU more that XOneX ???
did they know about Nvidia's 3000 Series GPUs that leaked 2 weeks ago???
the Only thing i wish is that PS5 should has 70 or 80 CUs to comparing to 3000 GPUs!
for all that hardware it looks awfull packed in Red ring death mk2
Personally I am excited for the next gen - and that includes the Xbox as well as the PS5. I can't say that all the 'new' features appeal - like Quick resume in multiple games as I play 1 at a time and buy on disc so would need to keep swapping discs anyway....
Whilst it is true that Series X won't be getting any 'exclusives' that won't be available on other 'Xbox' devices - whether that's current Gen, PC or via streaming, I don't care - I will be buying a Series X for all the improvements it offers - better load times, performance and of course visuals with Ray Tracing. Its no different from upgrading a GTX960 for a GTX2070ti to get better visuals, upgrading the CPU to get better performance and upgrading to a SSD to get better loading times... Its not necessarily about having 'access' to games but also getting the 'best' experience whilst playing those. I bet a LOT of 3rd party games will be available on PS4 too...
As for 'exclusives', I doubt that MS will match Sony in some aspects but they should offer a wider selection with more studio's added - either way, I will be looking forward to seeing what they develop...
The fact Microsoft will continue having backwards compatible games across 4 generations of consoles means I will be buying the Xbox Series X . Xbox game pass is incredible value for money and I cannot wait to play Panzar Dragoon Orta and Ninja Gaiden Black once again
While the exclusives probably won’t be as good, I say ‘probably’ because Rare, Obsidian and Ninja Theory could end up releasing must have games, that’s a beast of a machine. It definitely puts the ball in Sony’s court.
X box is doing a lot of talking.but action speaks louder than words.and when sony does talk about ps5.it will be mike tyson knockout.word up son
@parvaz1 No need to innovate on the controller - they already have the 'best' and most copied design - as well as the best controller in the Elite.
4GB more more RAM is not to be sniffed at either - that's almost as much as the PS4 and XB1S have for game devs to use - both only have 5GB of the 8GB for devs - the rest is for system. That's still 16GB overall
If the 'leaks' are true, the PS5 won't have more CU cores than the PS4 Pro - just clocked a lot higher to give the Mathematical Tflop boost. The Series X seems to have a lot more CU cores but won't run as fast but still means it will have more Tflops than the PS5 (if those leaks are true).
Its wiser not to criticise especially as Sony haven't announced their specs. It could have the same RAM - but lower bandwidth, less CU cores ad lower Tflops etc...
They're quite impressive specs, it'll be interesting to see how the PS5 compares with it.
Sounds really impressive I have to say. The backwards compatibility is something that I find very enticing as well and I don't care about exclusives as long as a system has got the games I find interesting - a lot of ps4 exclusives I can live without. The game is quite open to me, as you can only kid yourself with brand loyalty!
I'm keen, a day one purchase for me (love new consoles😁)
Sony really need to pull their finger out though haha
Still reading the articule... wondering how much of "the custom MS & AMD" desing will make it's way also on PS5... what a beast of a machine the next XBox is. Hoping the best for PS5 as I will only buy Sony's machine... I don't care about Halo and MS first party games.
The SSD storage part is really awesome... same as other custom bits of the design. Love this technical stuff.
@crimsontadpoles same here... could they be very different? From AMD's perspective, I don't think it makes sense to have one of it's customers with crap parts...
Very cool but to play only youtube videos and third party games I have my pc and PS5
"Releasing" Spec Info is the ONLY punch Xbox will beat Sony at...
I think both consoles will get delayed, and if that's the case then Microsoft have potentially blown their load prematurely. It'll be more difficult for them to ramp up hype.
Wow Microsoft has laid it all out for everyone to see. While Sony gives us a Wired magazine interview.
Too quiet? Ghost of Tsushima recently got a wicked trailer and release date. M$ may have given up on this generation long ago, but Sony still has some GOTYs coming out in the next couple of months. PS5 can wait.
Sony still waiting for the xbox sx price. Beside, the most important things is while sony still waiting, they still release great ps4 exclusive games
@LiamCroft Really, you buy a console based on specs like PC gamers based a video card, RAM, CPU or motherboard base don specs?
I suppose I could have been more specific, but I'm standing buy my original post that console gamers care more about the games and PC gamers buy their PCs or their parts based more on the power. Though I suppose some PC gamers don't care about the specs, just Intel over AMD and Nvidia over AMD, even on the rare occasion when AMD wins.
But PC gamers surely look more at specs when choosing what hardware to buy, parts or whole, then console gamers do, who look at the games, that has to be a given.
ie More people buy a Switch or 3DS or PS w/o having ANY CLUE what hardware is Inside, but most gamers buying a PC or parts to game know something - gig of RAM, CPU type, graphics card. Specs.
@rjejr Of course PC players care more about specs, but it's silly to suggest that they're for them alone.
I’m excited to see what the system will bring.
@ZeD Let’s be fair, the PS4 didn’t really have anything impressive in its first year either. No console does. It takes a year or two for them to get on their feet.
@parvaz1 From what I know, the new consoles are a world apart on a techinical point from the previous generation. CPU power, and custom SSD storage are alone key differentiators, let alone hardware ray tracing and GPU improvements.
An insider by the name Tommy Fisher predicted these exact XSX Specs we got today; he also said PS5 is more powerful so we'll see.
@LiamCroft Since I like you, and since you work here you can ban me, I edited my original post, hope it's more to your liking.
As my kids like to say "I'm not wrong though."
Kids will go for the power of Xbox, gamers will choose Playstation.
@East76landS Gamers will play whatever makes them happy.
@LiamCroft Really? I always thought they cared more about mods. At least I did when I gamed on PC for a bit. I think the games matter more
Sounds good. I'm just a bit surprised the memory is like the minimum expected and a bit weird.
@The_ghostmen Games-wise, Hellblade has my attention.
Other than that, the tech specs are impressive, I like the hardware design, and there are some great features like quickly resuming multiple games, backwards compatability and HDR support for said games. Big fan of Microsoft's hardware in general - controllers are very good and often come in very cool designs/colour schemes.
Of course, one game isn't enough to make my mind up so I'll need a lot more to be convinced. If half of the rumoured PS5 games turn out to be true (Silent Hills etc) then I'm almost certainly going to get that instead, but I like MS, owned an Xbox and Xbox 360 and would be tempted to buy an Xbox again if the games were good enough.
Is that enough extra information for you?
Oh gee wiz, I can't wait to experience all these numbers like people did with XOX 🙃
I’m surprised Sony hav'nt releases any proper details about the PS5. But then again, being the absolute market leader, Sony knows that the anticipation is building & they know that as soon as they do, will dominate everywhere. It looks like Xbox are going with pure power, which will reflect in price, whereas Sony will go for power that reflects value for. But even if the PS5 is lower in power, the games that Sony make are absolutely beautiful anyways. For me, I’ll be getting both on release. My girlfriend is buying me the Xbox Series X & I’ll buy the PS5 myself.
Specs sound impressive, but nothing demonstrates it. Ray tracing in Gears 5, woo, a mediocre game is getting an upgrade. They talked so long and said so little. Backward compatibility is nothing new doesn’t offer all OG Xbox titles, which PureXbox made it look like to left a little disappointed. It sounds like the emulation will be good, but I’m not sure if it makes a real difference yet.
Suspending multiple games sounds pretty neat, but disks mitigate that and online game also aren’t affected much by it. I do hope Sony has an equivalent though, as keeping place in a SP game while I hop Siege with friends would be awesome. Okay, suspending at last 2 games is great.
But they gave no examples to excite me. Nothing was shown to or a story told me help me be excited for the features. PS5 still has a better more exciting article out there.
And is anyone else worried about that tiny 1TB storage that’s specialized? SSD is great, but 2TB is a minimum, 1 is just nothing these days.
@BAMozzy The rumble and triggers on PS5 sound revolutionary. Xbox is going to have an awful controller by comparison it sounds. I could be wrong, but I’m so excited for the DS5. Xbox just isn’t innovating it sounds like. The DS5 will alter my experience playing game meaningfully. Xbox’s controller will be boring and outdated in comparison.
The real news here is that Pure Xbox is back! =)
@Jaz007 Xbox One already offers rumble in the triggers - whether its as impressive as the DS5 offers or not, we will have to see but in essence, Sony are copying MS's idea. They may well offer some refinements on that idea but until we see, we don't actually know yet.
As for the triggers, again we will have to see what Sony implements and how that works. MS's triggers feel great and you do get a varied rate of rumble depending on what's happening so there is feedback - its not just on or off. It will be more interesting to me to see if Sony has a form of reducing the latency like MS have as that is more important to the feel of a game...
@crazykcarter Its difficult to gauge a price - especially as MS has multiple avenues to sell games. If you only have 5m consoles on the market in the first year, but can sell to 50m+, they could take a hit on the price and make up that deficit by game sales. Its impressive tech and I don't expect it to be cheap ($400) but I couldn't guess the price....
I didn't know there was a Xbone sister site
@BAMozzy I’ve played a XOne a few times and never noticed honestly. And I know Xbox has rumble for the controller, as does DS4, but it looks like something totally different for the DS5, which sadly nothing was said about in the new Xbox. If they both had it it would mean more games use it more, but I’m glad at least Sony has it. They talked big game about it, so I really hope it delivers.
Sony has next gen-rumble and Xbox didn’t mention it. Imagine a game based off of feel and sound, no sight, it sounds possible with surround sound the DS5. I’d love to see that.
@ArcadeHeroes
I will also get one down the line but not at launch. I just don't see the appeal of buying a console that has the same game that I can play on my xonex. How games publisher can truly make next Gen games if they have to design them around an old Jaguar cpu.
Just look at the Cyberpunk situation and how the development is held back by the xone.
Nuff said
@Jaz007 MS were very unlikely to mention something that they already offer. I am not saying its as impressive as what Sony are looking to do or not but MS have provided 'haptic feedback' through their triggers since the XB1 launched - Sony went with the lightbar, touchpad and speaker - MS implemented rumble triggers.
Because its not 'new' for MS, its not something they are going to focus on. I wouldn't expect Sony to talk about the touchpad or speaker (if the DS5 still offer those) for the same reason - they will want to talk about the triggers because they are 'new' for Sony.
MS's is just a smaller rumble that varies in intensity depending on the situation. For example, charging a weapon in Borderlands gets more intense the more you charge or going off track in Forza - you feel the rumble in the 'accelerator'. Sony's could be very similar too or maybe they have something more advanced - Switch rumble is supposed to be more advanced and Sony could be implementing something similar to this.
Point is, MS would only make 'something' out of it if they had improved it or if it was 'new' but its something they have had since the start of the current generation.
Impresive machine, this time Sony will have a beast of competition.
Also considering the new aproach to "exclusives" by new Sony executives, i think this next generation Sony will lose the leadership on console market, problably another PS3/XB360-era of even marketshare.
@BAMozzy I may mis-remmeber, but I want to say Sony did say the speaker's would be more clear this time around. And MS not mentioning it is my point, Sony mentioned them and provided very specific examples to show how cool the new rumble will be, MS not mentioning it leaves me to believe they won't have something as good, they'l have similar tech to this gen since they didn't think much of it. I believe they have it, but in a more rudimentary fashion they will probably carry into the next gen. If I remember, different sides of the controller might have different rumble on the DS5. I know they said you'd know just from the controller if you were between the gravel and pavement. And they said it would be very clear just from the rumble.
Aside from the HDR backwards compatibility, what's new about this information? Microsoft confirmed all of this stuff the last time they talked XSX.
Wait...Pure XBox is still a thing?! I thought it had closed down years ago!
a) nice nod to Pure Xbox - I've been waiting for that to resurface... b) there's no doubt XBSX1XS1X is going to be more powerful than PS5 and that's a problem for Sony, because XB1X leaped over PS4Pro and it looks like PS5 is going to be inferior again... and that matters because c) not everyone is a fanboy - people go for the best quality experience... if you have a multi-platform game (which, you know, 90% are) and it runs / looks better on one console than it does on the other - which one are you going to buy? (cough/cough original Bayonetta release) Sony needs to jump over XBSX otherwise it feels like it's resting on its laurels a bit too much... Game Pass is phenomenal.. the studios MS have bought in readiness for next gen is equally impressive... the fight for next gen supremacy is on! (I'm still undecided on which I'll get yet...) FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!
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