Unless you haven't been keeping up, you probably already know that the complete Final Fantasy VII Remake experience is being developed and released in parts. The first part, simply titled Final Fantasy VII Remake, takes the early-game Midgar story arc from the original PSone classic, and supposedly adds a huge amount of depth to proceedings -- to the point where Square Enix has said on multiple occasions that each part of the Remake series will be equal in length to a full Final Fantasy game.
Outside of speculation and educated guesswork, we don't know anything about Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2 yet, but Square Enix has at least confirmed that development of the second instalment has not been impacted by the recent Final Fantasy VII Remake delay.
Indeed, if Part 1 had stuck to its original March release date, we'd likely be playing it for review purposes right now -- but it was pushed back to the 10th April. When asked if the delay would have any effect on the company's plans for Part 2 at a recent financial briefing, Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda simply said, "no, it will not".
Again, we don't have any concrete information on Part 2 other than the fact that it's currently in development, but it's still good to know that Part 1's delay hasn't altered the overall plan.
[source videogameschronicle.com]
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Disgusting practise chopping the game up into multiple parts and selling it back to us like we're cattle. I mean, it's not like video games are something to be anticipated, savoured and enjoyed over an extended period, a cost effective if sometimes less than perfect ray of light in these otherwise dark and dreary adult times, they are to be consumed and spurted out like pebble dash into a toilet bowl. If it's not served up to us fresh like it was in 1997 we don't give a crap. We want it all, for free, physically and yesterday and we will accept nothing less.
@kyleforrester87 Hear hear, brother. The revolution starts now. I don't know why everyone's so worried by coronavirus and climate change when the thing that's a much greater threat to mankind is FFVIIR being released in parts.
Probably because they haven't started it yet anyway 😄
@Matroska I know, and the worst part is they've added a load of extra content to give us the "illusion" of extra content and value for money. I mean, when I type it like that, it makes complete sense, but I'm still really angry about it, you know?
If it did, wouldn't it only be setting them back by a month anyway?
@sikthvash Yeah, given that it was only delayed by a month or so, you'd imagine that nothing major had to be changed. Even if it had impacted Part 2, it probably wouldn't have been worth worrying about.
And I'm still planning to wait another 10 years to get the "Complete Edition" on PS6.
My friend said "you know you can't do that it's FFVII!" I told him, "I've waited 20 years, 10 more won't hurt".
@GADG3Tx87 And one by one, the members of the class stood up and clapped. Even the cool kids.
@nessisonett to be fair, I did consider giving @GADG3Tx87 an equally smart ass reply, then I figured actually he has a point and if that's his preference fair play to him. I wouldn't do it myself, because I always think there's every chance I'll be long dead in 10 years and I'd like to have a crack at it before that day comes, but horses for courses!
@nessisonett And then he woke up from his dream due the sound of his Amazon pre-order of FFVIIR Part 1 dropping through the letterbox.
Still on the fence about the remake--didn't like the original when it came out, but enjoyed Crisis Core though surprisingly and felt that with all the retcons and refining, the remake could and should be what the original convoluted game might have been.
Alas, I think I'll wait for the final part to be announced and may play however many chapters exist the last months leading up to its release, or I'll wait until they are all out at once.
@GADG3Tx87 I think you're being optimistic saying it'll be on the PS6. Lol
@kyleforrester87 @nessisonett
Indeed, to each his own. I just can't buy into the practice of cutting a game up in 3 parts and selling each one at an inflated price, even with the excuse being "the original was on three discs" but that was a limitation of the time, there is no excuse today.
My friend said "what if they remade Metal Gear Solid and made it an episodic release?"
He know MGS is my favourite game of all time and even then I couldn't support that kind of greed.
@GADG3Tx87 but don't you think a lot of media is originally envisioned as a larger story and then broken up and sold? I just don't see what's wrong with it. Of course the Midgar section in FF7 is 5 hours long, so if this remake was a straight beat for beat copy of the original Midgar section then I could get your point. But if it has so much quality extra content, what's the issue..? Of course we don't know the extra content is quality, but we won't know that until release.
I'd be absolutely on board a quality MGS1 re-imagining where you explore new areas of Shadow Moses and meet new characters, bosses, plot lines etc. They could smash that into tiny pieces and I'd inject it into my bottom at £40 a pop.
@GADG3Tx87 and for what it's worth I long said they'd need to do something about the pacing in any remake. I always used Costa Del Sol as an example, you literally spend 10-15 minutes in that section of the game in the original. If you breezed through it that quickly in a 3D remake it just wouldn't make sense. You should be spending several hours in that environment, soaking it all in.
@kyleforrester87
Fair play to you. I just can't do it. It's a matter of principle when I weep for the days games were sold in full because they had to be. Maybe it's just that I'm old and stubborn to accept this. And at the end of the day I'm still content playing my original PS1 copy of both aforementioned games until such time as they arrive in full.
I get what you're saying in regards to extra content but I still don't see that as an excuse, charge extra by all means, but ship a complete game.
@GADG3Tx87 I think each instalment will have changes so it's designed to feel complete, in the same way the Lord of the Rings movies had a sense of finality at the end of each film, even though we knew the larger story was still to be wrapped up.
The problem with shipping only the full game is that we still have to wait just as long for it to be finished. I'd rather have a "full-sized game" (if what they're saying is true, we'll see with reviews/people playing) to enjoy now, and be able to look forward to the next part rather than wait however long 'til it's all done.
Otherwise, just wait for the full game. I mean, that's what you'd be doing anyway, it wouldn't be coming out now or sooner.
@kyleforrester87
A film is excusable since a trilogy is nothing new. As is a sequel to a game. But this isn't a sequel, it's an 'episodic release' and that is just plain and simple splitting up a game in the disguise of 'sort of' sequel. Again I'm not going to have a go at anyone who's excited, I just can't agree with the idea.
@GADG3Tx87 Not sure it's worth getting hung up on the terminology frankly. It's as episodic as FFX-2 or FF13-2. In my mind, the only question is whether it's worth the price of entry and if you'll have fun playing it.
@kyleforrester87
If one can justify the price to value that's their decision. I just don't see a grey area so to speak. They will do this regardless, because they can feed on people's nostalgia. My decision to not buy it in this state won't change anything not that I would be so arrogant to think I'm so important to do so. It's just my personal principle on the practice.
I hope my opinion doesn't leave me in bad standing with the folks on this site as I genuinely like the friendly interactions here. This is just how I feel and hold no dislike for anyone who has a different opinion.
Another example I can make as to how I see things is 'Metal Gear Survive' I am a huge MGS fan but felt that game had no business using the name and felt too generic for it. I genuinely wept when I tried the demo. It just felt like they were cashing in on a name with a generic zombie game.
@GADG3Tx87 I can agree on MGS Survive (even though that had its fans) but the issue is that wasn’t a very good MGS game. The FF7 Remake could be awesome, even if it only focuses on the earlier section of the original game. So it’s about the quality of what’s on offer to me.
@kyleforrester87 @GADG3Tx87 Since you guys mentioned the Lord of the Rings movies, I haven't stopped thinking about the Lego Hobbit game since they said this would be released in parts.
FYI - Lego Hobbit covered the first 2 of 3 Hobbit movies. They had kind of said or insinuated that the 3rd movie would be released as DLC. Then they canceled the idea. And you can still buy the Lego Hobbit game, but you are only getting 2 of the 3 movies.
Not saying Squenix would do that, but does anybody know when HalfLife 3 releases?
Edit: And if you're not a fan of Lego games, how about Squenix games?
@kyleforrester87 "because I always think there's every chance I'll be long dead in 10 years "
I know you're kidding, but somewhere after 50 I started thinking like that for real.
Sorry but waiting till the full release, its still an EPISODIC game to me, don't care what anybody says.
The way I'm seeing this remake is that it's comparable to the Hobbit movies versus the original book. Now that isn't a perfect comparison since those movies faltered in areas compared to LotR and wasn't as faithful; but FFVIIR has the advantage of it's original key staff all still being alive and working on this new version, so it's going to be the original vision - just expanded upon - and not somebody else's adapted interpretation of the source material.
@rjejr I’m not kidding sadly 😂 (or maybe I am, but won’t realise until I’m 50)
@rjejr That Lego thing still bugs me, I guess it flopped which is why they cancelled it, but they should have just waited for the third movie to release. The Lego Movie game came out two months before, so there was no need to to rush it.
@Orpheus79V Flopping is probably the easiest explanation but it's still a serious slap in the face to people who bought it. I would have been outraged and banned from the entire internet until they refunded all my money. Still have played it, or any other Lego game since.
Now I'm not a complete idiot, I know FF7R is going to sell better than a Lego game, but just read what they said about the canceled FFXV DLC - changing priorities, moving in a different direction, focusing on new AAA games. So let's say FF7R PT1 sells well. Then years later part 2 just does meh b/c by then everyone is like - OK, I'll just wait for part 3. Do they make a part 3 then?
Not that it really matters, we all know how it ends anyway, but I'd lose my mind. Better for me to wait. Or borrow it for free from the library. Or play it on PS+. But I'm not paying for shareware, part 1 of DooM was free. I still have the floppies. 😎
@kyleforrester87 Man if you're feeling that way already I'm not sure whether to feel good or bad about myself?
Do you feel the urge to play Animal Crossing? I realized my life was over and had no meaning when I wanted to buy AC. And I am.
@rjejr yeah I kinda am actually, but I’m gonna get it for my girlfriend and see if it’s for me that way 😎
@kyleforrester87 I hereby dub thee "Old Man Snake".
@GADG3Tx87 You say games were made in full, but you could complete SMB1, 2 and 3 in a fraction of the time it'd take to complete one modern game. For that 6-7 hours of gameplay, you'd have paid £60 per game, so £180 overall. That's equal to, using the Bank of England inflation calculator, £450 today. You're sure you want to go back to £450 for 7 hours of gaming?
Most old series sequels, like Mega Man 2, 3, 4 etc, were effectively level packs that'd be £9.99 DLC now. Back then it was equivalent to £150 for about 9 levels. You'd have to add up every NES MM to get what'd be a full game now and that'd be the equivalent of £900 (6 games).
Even if you found them for £40 back then, just adjust the prices I gave to 66% (so £100 for a game that lasts 3 hours, time £600 for all MM NES games that only adds up to about 54 levels).
Bet people would go crazy if every old lengthy games remakes took this approach. Whether it's a good or bad decision made by SE we can only tell once Episode 1 releases.
Only time will tell if it’s worth but you have to understand the work and time that’s gone into this game. How many years has part 1 been in development now? Imagine if they did put the whole Original game together before release. His long would it take and more importantly for any business. At what cost? How many businesses could sustain that level of development without any return for best part of a decade. Do you people realise what your demanding? That’s why why many games company’s fold...From a business perspective that’s a crap idea. Spend forever developing a game that does nowhere near as well as the original or release it in manageable size chunks and test the market first. As big as square Enix this is serious taxing on the company and would be on any company. This has to be a sustainable business model first and foremost. It’s my favourite game of all time and it’s going to drive me mad waiting for all episodes but I understand why they are doing it. This is not going to be a small game by any means.
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