Sony Reiterates PS5 Features at CES 2020 Press Conference

High Speed SSD and RayTracing sells the upgrade for me.

I've had my PS4 since launch 2013. SONY can have another pay-day - they have earned it.

@Agramonte hardware ray tracing and custom ssd are the meat of next gen games.

@Averagewriter so your most anticipated announcement for the next gen console is to hear that it’ll allow you to play games from 20 years ago? Odd...

Looks like I might be upgrading some of my favourite films to UHD come the end of the year.
We probably won’t get the release date and price until E3 again but hopefully some more info soon like they did for the PS4.

Just release some good games with variety.

Is NVIDIA doing the RTracing chip?

Ssd is game changer on windows 10, I can't wait to try it on gaming focused console environment like ps5

I'm just wondering if all of this is going to affect the price and raise it drastically because SSD hard drives aren't exactly cheap and if they are going for high-end hardware, I think we should expect a higher price than the usual 399-499$.

In any case, I will definitely be upgrading. Never regretted buying any Playstation console. The imaginary line-up we already have (Next God of War and Horizon) is intriguing enough if you ask me, let alone the rest of the Sony Studios.

Also, the next generation is going to be handled with love and care coming from Hermen Hulst. Knowing how passionate he is about his job, I personally expect a double the quality we had this generation (and this generation is still unmatched in terms of game quality and overall experiences)

All in all, I'm pretty hyped to see the Ninth Generation. Here's hoping for a generation filled with joy and awesome games (possibly less platform wars lol)

@Averagewriter In other words...you're stuck in the past. You also have high expectations if you think the console will be B/C with PS3, PS2 and PS1 as well.

@Sam-Bridges If Sony is looking to get PS4 owners to move over to PS5 quickly as possible...it won't be more than the $399-$499 price tag. I think they learned their lesson with PS3.

@Averagewriter You're asking for too much. If you have those consoles, then use them. You can always switch them out when you feel the itch to play old school games. What you're asking for would be too expensive and doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. If you don't care about specs, then I guess you don't want to play games, because every console has those. All in all I get that it's hard having every console you own hooked to a TV can be a pain, but there is no real quick fix to these problems. Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo aren't obligated to give what you want or any of us. They're focusing on the future, not the past.

@Averagewriter As do I. I started with the Atari 2600 before moving on to NES, SNES, PlayStation, N64, Gamecube, PS2, PS3, 360...well you get the point. As much as I appreciate the past, I don't expect any of these console makers to bring me full b/c to play every game in my back catalog. I would be a nice convenience, but that's our own problems to resolve. Not everyone who loves a more powerful console is always bragging about which is better except extremists, or would I call them, fanboys. I don't fault Sony or Microsoft for doing so because it's competition and it's their job to talk up their products. Plus, more power doesn't always mean more graphics. More horsepower also brings more gameplay possibilities that wasn't possible in previous generations. That's what I look forward to the most. Personally speaking, I do love a how far we progress with visual display, but that's just icing on the cake in most cases.

@Averagewriter @Averagewriter Again, it's not Sony, Nintendo's or Microsoft's jobs to deal with those issues. Their jobs are to move forward and gives us the future.

@Averagewriter It's not my problem if you don't believe me. I know what is fact and fiction.I'm not here to prove my worth to a random person on the internet. From where I sit, the fact that you need to block me shows your maturity level and aren't willing to except differing opinions. Sorry to say, but not everyone shares your dated beliefs.Thank you for me doing the favor of not having to listen anymore of your ramblings I suppose. shrugs

@AhmadSumadi

It's not odd at all. Sony has an amazing back catalogue of games and having one console that can play the whole lot would be a MASSIVE selling point for a lot of people. (as unlikely as it may be)

Particularly if the PS5 isn't going to make games look much better than a PS4 does.. the fact that it might load slightly faster is neither here nor there for a lot of people

@InsertUsername you do realise both Microsoft and Nintendo are offering you the chance to play older games on their new systems, Nintendo for a bit of money but Microsoft have gone to great lengths to allow you to put many of your old discs in and play them for free. That team is also working hard on the series X to ensure that can do the same thing. There is a big demand for retro gaming and if the PS5 did have that capability they could also offer many of those games for sale on the store, don't forget PS Now is largely built upon its PS3 library. Then you have the PS4 itself which has many PS1 remakes with Crash, Spyro, MediEvil and Resident Evil 2 and in the next few months ths small matter of Resident Evil 3 and Final Fantasy VII, so there is still plenty of love and nostalgia for these titles and it can only be a huge positive if included. I'm sure they've at the very least been looking into it, with PS3 likely the biggest sticking point.

Of course the main reason I will be buying one is for new games with the custom SSD and the new CPU being of particularly excitement for how it could transform gaming, with far more interactive worlds and intelligent AI, with ray tracing being a nice little extra. Given last night's announcements I suspect the rumoured power gap to be true with Phil Spencer showing off the series X chip hours before Sony came out without a word about teraflops. Not that this is an issue as all the big gains next gen will be from the CPU and Sony rewriting the operations of the SSD to work specifically for gaming

@Marios-love-child I think it'll do more than make games look just a bit better than a PS4 does, we're looking at a 6 times increase in GPU power over the PS4 and a monumental leap in CPU power which could fundamentally change how games are designed as that has been the biggest limiting factor for years

@carlos82 I dont really believe its a big demand for retro gaming but i would love too play some of my old games. Just bought Haunted Ground in seal for €18. 😁

I rather see Legend of Dragoon remade. 😀

@carlos82

I was partly joking about the slightly faster loading times. I'm sure it will do plenty more.

My main point was that I think people do under estimate the importance of retro gaming and backward compatibility in general.

It might not be for everyone but it's massively important to large parts of the fan base

I think Sony should try and get the licenses for the games on PSN removed so around the world can play games in the store and buy etc. I'd love to play Breath of Fire 4 again from my PS1 days but it's not on the UK store but I've heard it's on the US store. Licenses are a joke sometimes

@InsertUsername Well you replied to him first when you could have just read his opinion and moved on. But by calling him "stuck in the past" and "dated beliefs" and then talking about his maturity level for not accepting other people's opinions... c'mon if anything it's you forcing him to accept your opinion by replying to him to start with. This the thing I don't get on the internet.

what about "NO JET ENGINE FANS" and "G-SYNC Compatible"???

I just want it to be quieter than the launch PS4, luckily the slim solved all it's sound issues but my god was the launch console loud.

@Averagewriter

You can already play all those you mentioned on dedicated machines.

@Nakatomi_Uk Breath of Fire 4 thats my avatar Kaiser. I loved that game it was just perfect.

I, too, would like to see some backwards compatibility. It really does make things a lot more convenient.

From the Microsoft side, it's nice to not need my Xbox 360 anymore. When Series X comes out, it will be nice to be able to use that as a trade-in and still be able to keep all the capabilities I had from before.

Unfortunately, if I still want to play the few PS2 games I do have AND still play the PSOne Classic titles I bought a long time ago, I have to keep my 60GB PS3 in the basement.

I mean, it's nice that I can use my PS4 Pro as a trade-in towards a PS5 since it will at least be able to play PS4 titles, but it would be even better if I could also trade in that PS3 as well.

@Flaming_Kaiser He was actually my favourite Dragon in the game as well, buying a used copy is well over priced for me. I wish I kept the game some of the games I had on PS1 are well worth a lot of money now. But BoF4 I wouldn't have sold at all

@Nakatomi_Uk Ill have too look but i think i still havr it somewhere. 😉 Sealed $160 wow disc only €26...🤯

If they release the game as PS1 game with ony a resolution ill buy it just like the Legend of Dragoon. 😀

@Flaming_Kaiser BOF4 and LoD I would seriously love a remake of them both

@TheArt There's a reason no one is agreeing with you(looking at your thumbs down there). No one forced anyone's opinion on him from the start. If you know how a comment section works, then you'd notice that we all tend to disagree and that's why we reply(which is there for a reason). He simply disregarded a differing opinion because it didn't fit his and decided to block(which reflected that quite well). In the real world, that is quite immature. From what I read from you, you are obviously white knighting(possibly an alt) and aren't doing yourself any favors. I have every right to disagree with him, just as you have that right too. The only difference is that I kept it respectful as possible while he decided to insult someone he doesn't know because he didn't like what they had to say. Good try though?

"This the thing I don't get on the internet."
If you don't understand how disagreements work, then I can't imagine how you deal with it in the real world. End of the conversation as far as I'm concerned. Good luck.

@carlos82 I'm well aware of what Nintendo and Microsoft have been doing. Lol. They do it if they feel it's in their best interest. I also never said there was no demand for retro gaming either, so I'm not sure why you think I was disregarding it? The only point I made is that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are more invested in the future for hardware and software than retro, which I'd imagine is obvious. Despite that, they'll always give us the option for retro gaming if they feel it makes business sense.

@hotukdeals Yep. Despite the fact it can be quite a handful to have so many consoles on hand, you can always make it work.

...let's hope "3D Audio" means Atmos support, otherwise it'll be a huge misfire...

@Flaming_Kaiser Well, there's a demand for retro gaming, but I highly doubt it outweighs modern gaming and the future of gaming. Remakes and remasters I think are bigger in demand because it usually brings either something new to the table or improves on the originals.

@Marios-love-child It may be best to wait to see how it peforms before assuming it will only be slightly faster and have visuals no different than PS4. If I had to take a good guess here, you're not likely to be right.

@InsertUsername I may have misinterpreted what you were saying earlier. At this point I just wish they'd come out and tell us

@carlos82 I don't like waiting either. Most sources point to b/c with PS4, but who knows for sure. I'd imagine it's likely true especially with Xbox One having it( not perfect, but has it nonetheless). I mean if they really want to 1-up MS, they should find a way to get PS3 compatibility. Though I can't see them going as far as PS2 and PS1.

@InsertUsername "There's a reason no one is agreeing with you(looking at your thumbs down there)." 😆 The guy said "no one", dude have you even seen your thumbs down...😂

@JJ2 RTX is just the Nvidia hardware implementation to accelerate RayTracing in a game. Anyone else can do it however they want.

You do not need Nvidia RT cores to implement RayTracing. CryEngine even runs on an ancient AMD VEGA 56

@Agramonte The cryengine implementation of ray tracing is performed entirely in software mode, which is why it will run across a wide range of GPU setups. Even if the consoles are using a form of hardware accelerated RT I doubt we’ll be seeing the same kind of performance as a high end RTX GPU. AMD has yet to show any progress with RT and there is also the fact that consoles will be £500 or less.

@Averagewriter You can play all PS1 and PS2 games on emulators, at least - and looking a lot nicer than they originally did. PS3 maybe but I haven't looked into that recently, but you couldn't last time I did. Many of my favourite games date back to the SNES days (not particularly a fan of much before that, to be honest - and anything I do like has a better remake, like FF1-3 or SMB1-3).

Anyway, those old consoles that your favourite games are on were the next big thing once, too. They were the upcoming thing people were getting hyped for. I love Haunting Ground too, by the way, and that wouldn't have been possible on previous consoles just like many new games wouldn't have been possible (without massive compromises) on pre-PS5 stuff.

@Agramonte
Sure. You know better. However ps5 has HWRT that's a fact.
The question is how, what type of HW

@Marios-love-child not saying it’s wrong. Not even mad at the guy for it. Just saying that anticipating a new machine and the biggest expectation is to hear that it plays old games seems weird. Like, you’re not interested in new tech at all? Just wanna play games that you’ve played decades ago?

@rjc-32 That is my point - RT runs better with hardware acceleration but it is not bound to any hardware. It is by function of an APi. No different than RayTracing in Unreal Engine 4.22. Based off of Microsoft's DirectX Raytracing API (DXR)

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/announcing-microsoft-directx-raytracing/

Nvidia's RTX is simply their Hardware acceleration of RT. Anyone who makes a DX environment compatible hardware can accelerate RT. You can't run NVIDIA GameWorks ray tracing denoising. But GameWorks is a resource hog anyway.

If Microsoft stayed with AMD for Xbox Series X, good reason to think they got the hang of it.

@JJ2 Oh for sure... It will have something that can accelerate RT in Cryengine, Frostbite and UE and it will be made by AMD.

All we waiting is what the marketing people will call it... cant be "ATX" because that is a computer case 😜

I have an RTX card. And price per performance is awful with RT on. We need something else.

I really want to know what the haptic controller does exactly!

I think Backwards compatibility will be a driving factor for Microsoft and Sony Digital Services for Game Pass and PS Now.
If a very small user base only used the feature it doesn't really matter that much because having a very good brand image to the public eye is much more beneficial to the companies as it puts them in a positive light , But more than that it drives new demands to Dormant Ips people have been crying out for for years for either a sequel or a remake ie , Dino Crisis , Legends of Dragoon , MegaMan Legends etc..

Remember also as Technology increases and devs are pressured to create bigger and more realistic worlds , development time increases and we already have to wait up to 3-5 years for the next big installment of the most anticipated games , we need the likes of Indies and BC to fill in those gaps .

lets just see what the future holds

You’re tellin’ me it doesn’t toast my bread or keep my brewski frosty? Bah!

I hope there’s a day one patch.