Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

Despite my son having a Series S, I've never personally been part of the XB ecosystem..... but in fairness, that was a hell of a showcase last night.

The recent SoP and SGF streams didn't really land for me, but XB definitely did themselves proud last night.

It will be interesting to see how many of these new titles adopt the new 'cross-platform' approach, and which games will stay locked on GP (albeit perhaps only 'timed GP exclusive')

The new DOOM looks incredible, that gun that crushes skulls and fires the remains at enemies...!

Yeah really nice showing that, some exciting third party stuff, some good first party offerings that will be available multiplat and then some nice first party exclusive titles too. Of which, I really liked the look of South of Midnight and I though Fable looked decent too (though we didn’t really see the protagonist do much apart from walk around). Haven’t drunk the cool-aid on Perfect Dark yet following the recent reports of disharmony but is in a better state than I would have imagined. Well done Microsoft 👏

I was actually surprised by how many of the games they showed looked to be in my wheelhouse, and pleasantly so
The biggest surprise for me was Perfect Dark; I didn't realize that it was a PD game until the title card and the parkour bits reminded me so much of Mirror's Edge that I thought maybe it was a spin-off of some kind. So, hopefully it will play well.

Whilst I see many comments about MS's multi-platform releases - like Doom, BO6 etc that will be on Playstation Day 1, I think that misses the point. Yes you could buy the games on Playstation, but if you 'buy' on Xbox through their store, you'll get the PC version too which maybe better for 'long term' preservation of your Library. Not only that, you can play via a Subscription too therefore save you money.

I'm not 'buying' CoD or Doom on PS5 when I can play for Free on Xbox OR PC. With the number of 'great' games coming up over the next 18months, I also don't see a reason to cancel my Game Pass Subscription. Whilst I see people whining about MS releasing some on PS, I'm just thinking how much more value I'll get from Game Pass. If they have to 'sell' on PS, Switch and everywhere else they can to ensure I can keep playing Day 1 releases for 'free' on Game Pass and/or not put prices up significantly, buy the game once and play on Xbox/PC etc, no 'upgrade' fee's either, I don't care if EVERYTHING comes to PS5 eventually - I'll still play on Xbox/PC...

@BAMozzy Thanks for keeping us up-to-date Phil 👍

You don’t say 🤔

@render @colonelkilgore you have to see from a Consumer perspective. I have both a PS5 and a Series X as well as a Gaming Laptop (with RTX3080ti) and a RoG Ally so why spend £70 to play CoD on PS5 when I can play it for Free on Xbox AND PC. In other words, I can play it on Console, PC and handhelds at no 'extra' cost.

What 'incentive' do I have to play on PS - whether they release Day/Date or not. The fact is that all those games coming to Game Pass means that I can play ALL the games I want without worrying too much about my Financial situation. I can play Stalker 2, BO6, Avowed, Indiana Jones etc at no extra cost - not have to decide whether to buy Assassins Creed 'or' Indiana Jones or Avowed etc.

As this is a Playstation site, its not as if you are being 'forced' to buy Xbox or forced to subscribe to Game Pass to play. You can still play on your favourite Platform but the purpose of my post was to show how it 'benefits' Xbox and Xbox customers. You all say its 'bad' for Xbox to release their games on Playstation as that means Gamers have 'no' incentive to play on Xbox - yet clearly they believe that Play Anywhere and Day 1 access via a Subscription is a big incentive offering a 'better' value way to play these Games.

I couldn't care less that Doom is remaining a multi-platform IP - it makes total sense to me, same with CoD and 'Parity' on Content. You don't split and anger a portion of your 'community' of fans by treating them differently based on hardware preference. I was just trying to show how this benefits Xbox/PC gamers. I bought Doom and CoD on Playstation in the past but now it seems unlikely I'll play these on my PS5 as I can play for 'free' on PC/Xbox. Point is, whether games come to PS5 or not, there is still an 'incentive' to play on PC/Xbox - and PC also gets Sony's Games too and a much bigger Library of Games to play, so why buy a Console at all in the future??

@BAMozzy I heard that every screen is an xbox so shouldn't that mean I get the PS5 version of the game included with the xbox/PC version? Anyway congrats on the awesome showcase the other night and great interview afterwards. When everyone plays we all win 💪

@BAMozzy Am I not a consumer to you?

@render It would be great if you could just buy the game 'once' and play on ANY hardware - but Sony certainly wouldn't approve of you playing on PS5 but buying games/content through MS store and not getting their '30%' cut. With a game like CoD for example with multiple Season Passes, Bundles, CoD points etc, that could be a LOT of lost revenue for Sony. They'd not want or allow MS to release CoD on PS5 if they can't make some money from it.

As someone with the 3 main Platforms CoD releases on, the fact that I can play on both PC (3080 Laptop and RoG Ally) and Series X at no extra cost with my save and content (inc Season Pass) gives me far more options. PS5 isn't a 'screen' really and if you can connect a PS5, you can connect a Series S/X to play on that 'display'. With Cloud and Samsung TV's, you could play on the screen you have your PS5 connected to without needing to buy an Xbox. I also have a EGPU Dock for the RoG Ally.

I'm just glad that games like CoD and Doom are playable on PS5 too with no issues over Content or release windows. MS 'could' have made these 'timed' or with Extra content for Xbox/PC - annoying all Playstation gamers but they aren't. They have 'incentives' to encourage you to play on PC/Xbox - like Game Pass and Play Anywhere - but if you want to play on PS, you can. The 'incentive' to play on PS5 maybe DS5 and its features, but I'd rather play for Free on Xbox/PC than spend £70 and only play on PS5 hardware...

@BAMozzy Shame on you Sony. Guess they just aren't generous enough to forgo their 30% so that they can bring the joy and community of gaming to everyone! On a plus point Uncle Satya must pay well, congrats on the extensive hardware collection.

@colonelkilgore What I meant by Consumer was the 'general' consumer who has no allegiance or fanboyism perspective. Those 'consumers' at the extreme end - regardless of whether Playstation or Xbox, they won't buy the other regardless and they are the ones most likely whining about exclusivity (or lack of in some cases). We've seen it recently with Sony Fanboys whining about Lego Horizons on Switch/PC day/date or Xbox fanboys complaining about games releasing on PS5 day/date.

Its only FANBOYS I see whining about the situation - inc Xbox Fanboys who think that this means Xbox has 'no incentives' for them if these games release on PS5 too. So I meant the more 'general consumer' that isn't a Fanboy and therefore not look at things as objectively. Yes they are still consumers, but they don't tend to be as Objective. If they are a Xbox Fanboy, they'll buy an Xbox regardless but still whine about MS releasing on PS5 for example and think that MS has 'no incentives' for them.

@BAMozzy Oh I see a massive “FANBOY” alright!

@render Sony could release every game on Xbox and get their '70%' of money from Games to reinvest into their platform too - but I guess they'd rather not give MS 30% for allowing them to sell their IP's on Xbox. Sony obviously believe its 'better' for them to keep those games away from Xbox so Sony Fanboys have something to justify buying a PS5 for and not 'help' MS in any way.

Its a traditional business model, so I don't fault them. MS too will still have exclusives (timed or otherwise) for the same reasons. You talk about the joy and community aspect but they aren't 'splitting' Communities up by giving 'extras' to those on specific consoles - inc XP bonuses to make games 'less grindy', extra missions/modes etc. If you are CoD fan, you'll still get to play Day 1, still get all the same Content and same experience...

@BAMozzy Don't know why but I suddenly wondered what the xbox after show party must have been like. I bet Matt was there shaking his 'booty' and Sarah was putting herself about trying to 'bond' with all the guests... haha 🤣. Great chatting thou and feel free to send us a team xbox signed photo if you get the chance.

Did someone just start a mass debate with themselves? Thread took a very fun turn 😁 as before we were all just chatting about how good Xbox did with their showcase anyway 😅

@Ravix yup, self-awareness isn’t one of his strengths

@render I heard a rumour that Greenberg wasn't there as Phil revoked his VIP privileges after the last party. Apparently he used his infamous wink once too often.

@CaptD And you think he would have learnt from the time before when he was shown the door for throwing the X sign and knocking over the cases of champagne bottles 😂