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Arugula

I'd have been extremely happy with NHL 19 on PS+ but of course, sports games aren't for everyone.

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BAMozzy

@FullbringIchigo There is talk that FFvii will come to other Platforms in the future - namely Xbox. If and/or When is unknown but it seems like its a timed exclusive. It could be just a PS4 generation exclusive but the game could release on PS5 and NextBox. Injustice (the DC based fighting game) released on both 360 and PS3 but was a PS4 'exclusive' as far as 'next gen' (at that time) was concerned - Injustice 2 however was released on both XB1 and PS4. Its possible to secure exclusive rights for a specific console rather than just the whole 'brand'.

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FullbringIchigo

@BAMozzy i heard that it could possibly come to P.C but no others have been mentioned and that wouldn't matter as it's still a timed exclusive on PlayStation and if it is also on PS5 then i'm not willing to wait to play it when there is an option right there ready to go

plus and this is speculation but it is Play it first on PS4 but that's all that was said, people are speculating that means it's coming to XBOX and/or P.C but it could just mean that it's also coming to PS5 when the console releases but still a PlayStation exclusive

so until Square says anything different then i'm just going to assume it's ONLY going to be on PlayStation 4

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BAMozzy

@FullbringIchigo That's up to you. All I was saying is that its likely to come to Xbox too and has been listed. I don't personally care and it may of been a mistake by Gamestop to list it but I don't care either way as its not on my wanted list.

I am however, considering holding back on purchasing games releasing at the back end of this year and will just play the numerous games I have already as I can wait for the 'next-gen' versions. It annoyed me that numerous games I bought on 360/PS3 were then released in the first few months on PS4/XB1. I can wait for single player experiences as they aren't 'time sensitive' like Online games are. Online games can drop off and just leave the fans, the ones that are high level and know 'everything' - inc the best weapons, the maps etc that can be difficult for late adopters to compete. A single player can be played any time and give the same experience, same story etc - maybe even better an experience with patches, better visuals and performance being on a more powerful system.

This is how I feel right now but maybe will feel different when the games come out, get caught up in the hype and can't wait. Its not as if I have countless games - excluding the 100's of free games I have added to my account on both PS4 and XB1 - certainly enough to keep playing well into next year and maybe beyond.

I would have thought that if FFvii is episodic, wouldn't it be better to buy on the hardware that the final episodes could be on? BC of course maybe an option too but may be locked to PS4 levels. Until we get more info, I am not committing to buying any game on any format until I know more about the next gen hardware, how BC will work (It would be good if you buy on current gen and then its 'patched' to next gen specs - the same spec as if you bought the next gen version.

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FullbringIchigo

SO who's going to be watching the XBOX E3 event this Sunday?
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redd214

@FullbringIchigo will definitely be tuning in. Main thing I want personally is more info about xCloud and how that's all going to work mainly just for Forza games. I'm sure they'll be a bunch of multiplatform games in there as well along with some next gen teasers. I think they're going to have a great show!

redd214

FullbringIchigo

@redd214 well lets be honest without Sony there they don't really have any competition this year, as such most 3rd party publishers will be using their event to show their upcoming games so it should be good

if it isn't then it's solely down to them

although it's a bit later than normal, the last few years it's been on around 6pm UK time but it's 9pm this year, i wonder why?

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BAMozzy

@FullbringIchigo If course I will be tuning in. The only thing I do know, I have already shared - that MS will be showing off 14 games from their studios.

xCloud though is another big example of MS making Xbox bigger than 'just' the console. For years its been console vs console, Xbox vs Playstation but xCloud puts Xbox on any device, whether that's a MS built console, a PC, a mobile/tablet - literally anywhere they can and want to. As long as you have a Microsoft account, you can sign in and play your Xbox library anywhere - its no longer 'fixed' to just the box of hardware that sits under your TV.

I know that some will still be Playstation vs the Xbox Console and that the console still has no games because they can be played anywhere and on other devices - therefore not 'exclusive' - not that it bothers me that others can get to enjoy the same games I can but you know some are very precious about it - just look at the threads about Playstation games that were released or expected to release on other platforms, how many are so angry that they may even 'not' buy the game they were looking to enjoying, being amongst the first to play. How many people were boycotting Tomb Raider after enjoying the first just because MS had a timed exclusivity deal...

As a gamer first and foremost, I am looking forward to every Press Conference. For me its all about the future of gaming - what games we can expect to see. Any hardware is nothing more than the device that will enable me to play the games I want at an 'acceptable' level for the cost. Whether I know the exact specs or not won't make too much of a difference as any new hardware will be necessary to boost my gaming experience - again coming back primarily to the games. Hardware is irrelevant to me in the 'bigger' picture because if the devs can't access or utilise it well, its nothing but a box of electronics. As I have said countless times, I only care about what games I can play and how well they play first and foremost - I don't care if it says Xbox or PS, don't care if it has MS or Sony etc etc I just care about the games I can play. I would prefer it if ALL gamers got to enjoy ALL games too rather than be segregated off and people being 'butthurt' because 1 group of gamers get to enjoy the same games first, last, at all...

Its better for gamers to be united under 1 umbrella rather than divided up into groups where each group have the majority of the same games as other groups but a handful of games only they get to play - at least first over the others.If every gamer that enjoyed CoD, Fifa, Battlefront or Battlefield, got to play with everyone else who enjoys that game, where is the harm in that? Wouldn't it be better too if Sony can Publish games on other Platforms, sell millions more to make millions more more to invest millions more into games? Sony 'could' reward those on Sony hardware with some Sony based cosmetic bonuses for buying and playing on a Sony platform - and MS could do the same for those on 'Xbox' who bought an MS published game. All those Sony fans wouldn't have to buy an Xbox just to play the odd game or two that intrigued them - games like Cuphead, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon, Ori etc.

Maybe Consoles won't ever sell 100m+ if you can buy just 1 Console and play every game - but consoles aren't always Profitable and the bulk of the Profit comes from software so why not sell software to a much larger base of people - that being ALL gamers. How much more copies of games like GoW, H:ZD, Spider-Man etc could have been sold, how much more profit would Sony of got - enough to offset the drop in console sales? People will still buy Sony consoles because they prefer the controller, prefer the brand maybe, like I mentioned above, would prefer the Sony 'bonuses' for playing Sony published games on a Sony platform.

That is my 'dream' but I doubt we will see that in the near future. It would be great to have one 'Console' under the TV like owning 1 Bluray player that plays all blurays and 1 TV to watch all the content on - not having to buy a Sony Bluray Player to watch Sony Pictures on and a Sony TV to work with the Bluray player...

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FullbringIchigo

@BAMozzy isn't xCloud what Sony and MS have teamed up to use for future streaming services?

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redd214

@FullbringIchigo no xCloud is essentially MS version of PS Now but with much more flexibility it seems. Don't think we quite no the exact reason for them teaming up quite yet.

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FullbringIchigo

@redd214 didn't they say the team up was for game streaming services, i can't remember

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redd214

Yes they did recently but it is still unclear the precise nature of the cooperation as far as I know outside of the ambiguous "game streaming" line.

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BAMozzy

xCloud, to me, seems to be the 'virtual' Xbox that will allow you to play Xbox games anywhere. Its the streaming based 'Xbox' as far as I am aware - you sign into your Xbox and play your Xbox games that are running in 'xCloud' so you don't need a fixed/portable console, something with enough processing power to play your Xbox games where you want.

As far as I am aware, the deal between Sony and MS was more about utilising the Cloud (Azure) for gaming. I am not sure (as I haven't really researched this yet to find out more) if xCloud is more of a 'service', a name given to just the Xbox based cloud gaming service or whether that encompasses more. All the info and video's I have seen and read - inc MS's own trailer seems to be focussed on Xbox - from the very first images of 4 XB1s being stripped down to the motherboard, being placed in new housing and then seeing lots of these in racks of servers then cutting to an Xbox controller with a mobile phone 'holder' connected to it and the person playing Forza using that phone as the screen. That to me seems like xCloud is the name for the Xbox cloud streaming 'service' but whether Sony will be able to utilise these, whether they have their own 'named' service for streaming PS games to other devices or its more for using Azure for online multi-platform cross-play, I really don't know.

Microsoft lead the way right now with Cloud computing and it makes sense that Sony turn to MS for 'assistance'. What we don't know is whether that is beneficial primarily for Sony, for the benefit of multi-platform cross-play or more. It could mean, for example, that Sony gamers can play Xbox games streamed to their Console via xCloud by signing into your MS profile - much like you sign into your Netflix or Amazon account - maybe have to have Game Pass though. Maybe Sony can add their 'equivalent' - a PSNow (or a 'new' thing like PS Game Pass) that people on Xbox can subscribe to and play PS games streamed to their Console. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the deal between MS and Sony is to allow each others 'app' on each others device(s) and with a 'subscription' based access just like Netflix but for Xbox/PS on each others - as well as cross-play for those multi-platform releases like the new CoD rather than just the odd indy....

Time will tell and maybe I will try and investigate deeper but in truth, I haven't done any research yet. Therefore everything I have said so far is my own speculation based on what little I have seen. Its not as if Sony don't have games owned by Microsoft - games like Minecraft for example and the fact that MS are looking at bringing Game Pass as well as Streaming Xbox to multiple devices, I maybe adding 2+2 and getting 6 but it seems logical that MS could have an App on PS5 and Sony could well do the same on Xbox - both offering a Subscription services (like Game Pass) to play their Sony/MS games on Xbox/PS.

It may mean that Sony exclusives can be played in the cloud (rather than 'locally') on the nextbox if you own something like Game Pass

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JohnnyShoulder

@BAMozzy No, gaming will still be the same Sony had to reassure the PlayStation division that this does not effect games coming out for PS5 as they knew nothing about it. They are just sharing knowledge and tech from each other for things like streaming. So services like PS Now will potentially be more stable in the future.

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I just signed up for Game Pass on PC. It's only $1 for the first month so why not?

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themcnoisy

@RedFinch I'm unsure if anyone answered you but the short answer is no.

There was an xbox sister site to Pushsquare and Nintendo life which died a few years back.

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themcnoisy

I'm really intrigued by the game pass option from MS.

I have fleetingly played a few games on my sons xbox (rare replay, sunset overdrive, forza) but he is a casual gamer, with fifa, fortnite and a touch of rocket league. So I have missed virtually all of this generations games exclusive to xbox.

Yes it has been beaten black and blue by the PS4 but it has a number of decent games I would like to visit. With backwards compatability Ninja Gaiden, Lost Odyssey and KOTOR have all been winking at me.

I'm really unsure what to do next gen now. For a short term fixture the next xbox could quite easily pay for itself if I grab one, said old games and game pass. Streaming is just not for me gaming wise - I have great internet but usually 12 or more devices in our house are connected so game pass is a much better option.

I would be 100% behind Sony. But with the demeaned value of psplus, the lack of E3 coverage (which I have always enjoyed), no obvious challenge to the ms back compatibility program other than a few lackluster ps2 games and the negligible support for independent studious going into next gen - that decision is by no means made. Unthinkable a couple of years back.


Probably the only reason I would stay for the PS5 other than the first party content is to stay engaged with the content and community from Pushsquare. In fact that is the main reason.

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JohnnyShoulder

@themcnoisy I assume when PS5 launches we will be getting PS5 games too? Didn't PS4 get stuff like Resogun pretty early on PS+?

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redd214

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah Resogun was there on Plus on launch day and in my opinion was actually the best launch game lol

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BAMozzy

@themcnoisy There is an option to buy a cheap or used Xbox - maybe even the X if you want the 'best' experience available - and just pay a subscription to Game Pass and Gold (probably about £12 a month) which would give you the ability to download any/ALL games on Game Pass, many on Day 1 too. Buying an X would give you some BC games at '4k', many that actually play much better than they ever did as the extra power means they run at the cap limit (not always the case with the base console and you don't get any enhanced resolution boost, 12x Anisotropic filtering (so textures etc aren't blurry off angle), much better loading times etc) - and of course any 'new' titles you want to play are not blurry messes (especially on a 4k screen) with frame rate issues that the base console is with a lot of games.

That is just Game Pass and you could go without adding Gold if you don't want to play any games online - inc Game Pass titles. If you wanted to play Sea of Thieves for example, you can download it to your Xbox from Game Pass but would need Gold to play it - obviously Gold will let you add the BC titles with Games with Gold (yours regardless of whether you keep Gold or not) as well as the 2 XB1 games. With xCloud coming, it seems that any Xbox game you have and entitled to play can be streamed to any 'compatible' device (like Stadia in essence) so you can carry on playing Ninja Gaiden or Forza Horizon from your save point, carry on earning XP, achievements etc regardless of where you are - if you have the means to connect your Tablet, Mobile etc on the go.

I don't know your personal circumstances, whether owning an Xbox (regardless of generation) and paying a monthly subscription that gives you access to hundreds of games, many from launch is a feasible option for you. Whether just a Subscription for playing those games, never needing to buy 'games' for the Xbox and, if you have an X, can also offer 4k gaming as well as a 4k Bluray, Atmos audio quality is of interest. I don't know if you can and/or will go on to buy a PS5 and can run an Xbox next to it with just a Subscription for ALL your Xbox games and still have the means to buy PS5 games as well but that's still an option. If you can afford the initial outlay for an Xbox and pay a monthly subscription, you never need to buy an Xbox version of a Game again if you don't want to. Go for Gold as well, and you then have 48 games gifted a year (some may be on Game Pass, some not) with 24 of those being yours regardless of whether you renew at the end of the 'year' too so you won't ever be stuck for 'something' to play.

Obviously I will own the next box and next PS too and as I don't intend to play on the go (my health means that I never play on the go anyway), xCloud streaming my Xbox library is not important to me. Maybe if I am in bed, I could stream my games to a laptop and use that as the screen rather than play in the front room on the big TV but that's not overly important. What is more important is that regardless of who is making exclusives for either console, especially now MS has a suite of studios to rival Sony's (in number at least - still have to see if any can make games that 'compete' from a critic's perspective), I have the opportunity to play. MS showed 60 games at E3 and ALL 60 I can play (if I want) and can say the same for any games that Sony has to offer. If I was 'just' on Sony's Platform, over 25% of MS's show, I would not have the opportunity to play. I say opportunity, maybe choice would be better as I have over 25% more games I can 'choose' to play or not.

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