@Thrillho well my decision isn’t final, so I will definitely consider your suggestion... and appreciate it too. I’m hoping to start one during some annual leave either this year or the next.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy well done on beating Yakuza. Glad you shared your thoughts, very interesting to read. I have to agree about the final Kuze music, it was seriously awesome! I wish I knew what all the songs were called and had some frame of reference for your other comments, I guess I'll probably find out what they are called when I get around to downloading the album!
@colonelkilgore I tend to do release order if I'm playing a full series for the first time. I would have played Yakuza 0 after 5 but someone mentioned it might be leaving game pass soon so I thought I'd play it first. Even if it doesn't leave game pass, I didn't want to get stuck with a 100+ hour game to play in the 2 weeks they give you after they announce what's leaving.
If there's a series that has the luxury of being one I will play multiple times (MGS) then I might mix up the orders on subsequent playthroughs. For example I had a truncated run through of the Big Boss games prior to The Phantom Pain coming out (Snake eater, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeros). When I did the full playthrough of all the games last year and the year before, I found myself coming full circle chronologically (as the games do) - my partner was begging me not to start them again from the beginning once we had got to the end 😅. I started with the Twin Snakes remake on that one as I'd never played it before and after 5 and Survive we played all the 2D games (again for the first time) and finished up with the original MGS on PlayStation lol. I was so very tempted to start playing Sons of Liberty again after that
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Now normally I will complete a game, go back to pick up any easily available trophies then maybe go for the plat depending on how easily achievable it is or how much I enjoyed it. Then it gets deleted off hard drive storage and I move on to the next thing. With KRZ I think I'm gonna leave it around and probably go back through the whole thing in a few months, weird considering I still couldn't say I actually enjoyed it!
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Yeah I'm not surprised. After reading your thoughts on gameplay vs narrative recently then it definitely wouldn't be one for you. Like I said above, I don't really think it's even a game!
“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
@Sorteddan that's exactly it mate, I was hoping the 'weird' angle would win me over as I love me some weird TV and Film but sadly it didn't. Still, I'm happy for everyone who did get a lot out if it.
🤔 so do I go with Mr Gameplay King or Mr Legendary Perseverance? Who am I kidding, why not both... I shall herewith go by the moniker Mr Legendary King! 🤗
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy thanks for the clarifications! That bit you mentioned was intense for so many reasons. I don't know why but I just loved Kuze. Every scene he is in shows a change of mind, heart or general viewpoint and that one was no different. Shame it went the way it did. I loved Kiryu's pained howls as he held Tachibana's body up. If I'm remembering it correctly that is, it's been a couple weeks and I've finished like 5 shorter games since then so my memory is already getting hazy 😅
I think at first, I was skipping the VO when you could read the text and press A (or X on PlayStation I guess). Obviously I watched all the proper cut scenes though. As I became more invested in the characters later on in the game, I would listen to more of the VO for certain characters like Sagawa, Awano and Kuze just because I liked hearing their voices. The game made me kind of want to learn some Japanese even though it seems like a really tough language to learn.
I think generally I prefer dubbed for TV cartoons. I love the dubbed DBZ and full metal alchemist shows. I think generally I prefer dubbed for live action and animated films. Admittedly I don't watch as many foreign films as I used to. Normally advocates for subs will have good reasons for preferring that version that they will post online. I'd say for me, it normally comes down to how much of the dialogue is changed in translation as to whether I'd watched subbed over dubbed.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy I don't know if you're aware but they had some big name actors do the English voiceovers for the original Yakuza game. It sounds so wrong!
@Arugula sounds a little bit like that Jon Cho movie ‘Searching’ from a few years back... frikking hidden gem of a movie that. Might have to look into Simulacra.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy I’m aiming to play Devil May Cry 1, 2 & 3 next year (4, 5 and DmC in 2023)... I randomly started 5 when it released but it didn’t click with me. I’m hoping now that I have played a bit more of the Character-Action sub genre (I don’t like the term but apparently that’s what it is) that if I start from the beginning I might ‘get’ what I was missing about the game previously... as those who like it seem to rank DMCV EXTREMELY highly on their list of best games of the PS4 generation.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy yeah I’ve started working my way through the old God of War games (including the PSP ones) and I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how much I’ve liked them. I have the Bayonetta-Vanquish remasters and Metal Gear Rising all in the backlog. Gonna finish off the old-school God of Wars this year... and I’ll also be playing Metal Gear Rising as I’m playing through the Metal a gear Solid series this year too. Then I’ll move onto the Devil May Cry series next year and finish off with Bayonetta and Vanquish.
Oh and I’m gonna buy the Ninja Gaiden Collection on PS5 when it releases later this year, think they probably fit into this genre too.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy will do, no haven’t played 3 yet... it’s the next one I’ll be playing though funnily enough. So far I thought 5 was phenomenal and Peace Walker very good. I’ll be going 3, 1, 2, 4 & Rising at various points throughout the year... I’ll be sure to tag you in my comments once I’ve finished each one.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy yeah, it’s not the order I would’ve gone with ideally but I always get a little anxious about older games that have online trophies... so I just started with them to give myself the best chance for the plats. And as I started with games that are pre-Solid Snake I figured I may as well finish off the last of the pre-SS games before I start Solid’s adventures.
I’m really looking forward to playing the Solid Snake games and am even considering playing the old 8-bit Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake too... anyone have any thoughts on those two?
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy well Big Boss in terms of 5 is intentionally ‘loose’ and love how it ties into MG1😉... I thought it was a pretty cool twist that involved some cool subtlety of storytelling (something Kojima is not normally known for) but yeah from the little I know, the narrative definitely took a back seats to the open-world of 5... some of those locales and locations that were dotted around Afghanistan and Angola & Zaire were just so well designed that I had absolutely no issue completing multiple missions in the same areas.
Thanks for your info on MG1 & MG2:SS... I might well just read up on the events myself. I tried to find a YouTube video that would detail the 2 8-bit games’ narrative but surprisingly couldn’t find one.
@colonelkilgore Metal Gear 1 is decent if outdated but Metal Gear 2 is a stone cold classic. I never really include them when I talk about Solid as they’re pretty different but more people should play Metal Gear 2 as it’s genuinely brilliant.
@nessisonett I have heard that 2 is brilliant (& still holds up)... but if I’m gonna play 2 I’d have to play 1 and I’m just not sure that I can find the time to fit them in.
I’m gonna give it the consideration that a stone cold classic deserves though 👍
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