@MightyDemon82 Did you head to the Batman set today/tonight? my time-zones are wonky again but they are shooting where you are and then I saw you mention it and kind of laughed at the coincidence.
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@GirlVersusGame I did go up, but it was cordoned off as they began shooting. So the public couldn't see anything. I do know that it was to be a scene involving the Bat Mobile, as it was stored in a tent on the street.
@MightyDemon82 Sometimes that cordon is done to balance lighting and sound, it's not that different than a closed set on a sound-stage. I was on one recently where new camera system was so loud it had to wrapped over and over again to muffle the sound. Those big IMAX cameras are really loud too. It's a shame you didn't get to see much, Resident Evil was a street-shoot too and they didn't block the public from seeing. Release form or not it doesn't give the production company the right to do that so if they did it was probably a lighting or sound issue. Public streets are grey areas and it often comes down to whoever signed off on the shoot. I'd hoped they wouldn't do that today, film sets are a lot of fun, it's magic, something everyone who loves the medium should get to experience at least once.
I remember one shoot, a child about thirteen randomly appeared on set one day. One of their parents approached a production assistant who then approached a production manager, they got the green-light and I saw them for a couple of hours that day, they got to meet the Director too, crew like that because it's usually actors who get the attention. It's something I'd been taken for granted because it's a legacy thing and instead of going to school I sat on set all day watching Cinematographers and Directors work. Perhaps I still do. For that child it probably made their year. Another time we were doing something for TravelChannel and again a child showed up, their parents asked, they were with the shoot so long that day that they ended up coming to dinner with us that evening. When it's a younger person the thought process (for crew) is that maybe they'll develop a passion and join the industry themselves, people on six months shoots want to work with others who are there for the same reason and not just for a pay-check, it's still very who you know but passion goes a very long way too and you don't get anywhere in life if you don't try. So well done for heading down there and at least giving it a shot.
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Finished season three of Haven. This is easily the strongest season so far, and definitely the first season that earned more than a “eh, it was alright” from me, but I still do have fundamental issues with the core of this show.
Like, this is the most serialised season so far - some people don’t like serialisation and prefer to get a complete story every week and I get it - but for this show specifically, I think full serialisation would be the best for it, and this is a step in the right direction, even if there are episodes once again that just sorta feel like bus parking as they conserve resources for the final episodes of the season.
Actually, when I think about it, this hasn’t ever been a particularly high budget show, but it arguably feels like the budget is getting smaller and smaller with each season, even as the narrative gets grander and grander.
I also just generally think this season has a much clearer vision on what this show is, and what they want it to be, so much of season two felt like a show searching for baselines and it kinda made the season sorta boring overall. Season two felt like it was doing a job that should already be completed by the end of season one. The first season was just sorta like a generic of the week supernatural procedural that largely remained in second gear the whole time, the second season was them trying to get out of second gear the whole time and work out like where this car is actually going and then season 3 is them getting out of second gear finally, deciding on a destination and making headways to get there.
I think part of the reason I am so fixated on the split between “of the week” and serialisation, is that I think the overarching mysteries of this show are really interesting and reward you for paying attention, and when the show is given the time to offer breathing room and pace out these stories, the show shines the brightest. On the flip are the of the week stories, which I think a lot of the cases of the week are fundamentally just not all that interesting a lot of the time, with the show repeatedly dipping into the same bag of tricks over and over again.
You think with the nature of the Troubles it would set you free to tell stories about anything, but it feels like we maybe half a dozen being generous “of the week” style stories they just endlessly redress over and over again. That means every Of The Week just feels like it is taking precious time away from moving the stories and character arcs forwards that we actually care about, but I also think it hurts sort of the whole conceit of the show in general because it is meant to be this small town of secrets, but when you have a weekly murder mystery where half a dozen people are killed by some sort of super powered killer with trauma issues, you’ve lost me in believing this is a real place.
Like, how can they find characters in this show who don’t know what the Troubles are at this point? Given the amount of times a Troubled person has threatened or possibly killed like half the town? How can there be like Sunday markets people just openly go to after like 200 people have been murdered since the show started? Like it is like the space the show exists in, and the events that take place within it, are on two different axis that never intersect, and it just sorta breaks the entire show.
And it also taps into the weird lack of imagination for the of the week stories too, since you could have told plenty of stories about other crimes or even just different kinds of drama, where half a dozen people didn't die with a supernatural element, and it would be far more believable that somehow these things are being buried by the forces controlling the town and keeping troubles secret. But they don't do that, and so again, it just breaks the idea that Haven is a real place we should care about.
And again, I know all of this probably sounds insanely negative, but it comes from a place of passion. I think this show is full of great ideas, but they are just shackled by the poor execution of the show they are contained within. I think had the show had a smaller focus, put more time into making Haven feel like a real place, with key locations we come back to again and again, had the seasons focused on small groups of Troubled people that they needed to resolve the issues of by season end, see those places change over time as the Rev drives a divide between the regular folks and the Troubled in town, building to an inevitable civil war, then this show would be perfect. But that isn't what this show is.
Oh and I think I have come to a conclusion that I sorta hate Audrey Parker as a character, or at least how she is used. Like I know it was all the rage at the time, but the Mary Sue in the middle of a brooding unearned love triangle thing, like I don't think it was great at the time and it has aged like milk in a hot room.
Like I can sort of understand Nathan's obsession with her, because he has been trapped in this numbness prison for almost his entire life, and this woman releases him from that. But what exactly is Duke's role in this triangle, other than that he fills out the archetypal other point of the triangle that is required in these dynamics?
Like, the show constantly tells us how special and important and wonderful Audrey is, but the reality is we basically don't see any of it. The grander and grander narrative scope, and the refusal to ever let go of the case of the week story, means there is no breathing room to see Audrey just exist as a real person. She just feels like a pair of shoes for the writer to put on. And I know a part of this is absolutely by design, because Audrey realises she is a bundle of fake memories and is on a quest to find out who she really is, but even before she learns all of this, I don’t think we ever see Audrey ever existing as like a real person.
Like if Nathan or Duke go on a date with Audrey, what do they even do, what interests has she ever expressed to have, even if they might be stolen interests from another person’s life? Like what would you even talk to her about? Like if you asked them both what their top five favourite things about Audrey were, what would they even list? And you might say that that seems like a weird thing to criticise so heavily, but it isn't just a shoehorned storytelling device of its era, they take this thing and use it as a load bearing pillar for huge parts of the show, huge swaths of storytelling development are predicated on the basis that audience loves Audrey as much as Nathan and Duke do, even if that love is as unearned with the audience as it is with the characters within it, and so many dramatic moments land with a weightless tumble when you instead respond to the show feeling like you're being gaslit.
Overall, Haven, at least for me, puts up a remarkable amount of blockers to enjoyment. I gotta tune out the nonsensical town logic, ignore the paper-thin case-of-the-week filler, and accept that Audrey is more of a magical plot device than she even is a vague outline of a character, let alone a fully fleshed-out human being. But I do think there’s a genuinely great sci-fi story buried under it all in here somewhere, fighting with all it has to break free. Season 3 sees Haven finally start taking meaningful steps forwards, committing to an overarching story (whether you think it is the right direction is a different conversation, but it commits nonetheless) and gives you a genuine "just one more episode" feeling, in a way the show couldn't earlier on as the of the week Trouble story was resolved and we know full well these events will never be referenced ever again.
So yeah, Season 3 is absolutely the best season of Haven so far, but that doesn't mean it has resolved all of the show's fundamental issues.
Finished Season 4 of Haven. While it seems like people online think Haven peaked in season three, I like season four even more than three, even if I do feel like the show is still hunting for it’s first truly great season.
I think the divide is created by Haven becoming quite a different show in season 4, but it effectively became the show I've wanted it to be since basically season 2. A big part of this is down to structure and pace, one of season three’s strengths was more serialisation versus the two seasons that came before it, but what held that season back for me, was it couldn’t quite fully let go of the of the week, cable tv, our audience has to be able to jump on board on any random episode they stumble on, approach to TV production. I recognise this is also why people love season three, because it is Haven trying to have it's cake and eat it by trying to be both, but the of the week stuff always dragged down everything else for me.
Season Four, however, improves for the reason it declines for others, in that it is the first time Haven finally lets go. Finally stops trying to appeal to Joe Bloggs who hasn't seen a single episode but expects to follow the show by catching a random rerun. It is now almost fully the serialised show I believe personally it always should have been.
I say almost fully, because there is still of the week stories here and there, but this time rather than those feeling like detours away from the story and arcs we care about, they generally all feed back into the wider story at play, giving the whole season this sense of driving momentum previous seasons just weren’t able to achieve, as they constantly had to keep parking the bus to make sure they got a neatly wrapped up of the week story crammed into every episode that will never be talked about again.
I also think this is the first season to start actually properly addressing like how inherently stupid kind of the whole core conceit of this show is? You’ve got this small, nowhere, fishing village that has - at least on the official reports, anyway, a twice weekly gas leak that kills like a dozen people at a time, and somehow law enforcement and government agencies world wide see 90 percent of all deaths in America each year happen in this one town and no one wants to investigate into this further. Like how on Earth are people burying the truth of what is going on in Haven? How on Earth does this town even function?
And while I won’t say the season necessarily resolves these narrative issues completely, it is the first season that stops running from these narrative problems, and starts to actually face them down directly. It realises that you are actively undermining your entire show, and making it all feel like a cartoon, when you try and press the reset button at the start of every episode and say “lalala” at any events that came before that inconvenienced you. No more resets, events that happen in this show now feel like they actually matter. Cause and effect has arrived in Haven.
Like I said before, my ideal season of Haven would put the focus on Haven itself, focus on resolving Trouble related issues that tendril out across the season, rather than being resolved within one episode and never spoken about again. I said I wanted to see events in this show have cause and effect, shape the town of Haven and the people within it. And season four delivers basically all of that.
Like I feel for the first time, this show knows what it is, what its goals are, we aren’t searching for the story of Haven, we have arrived now, it took three seasons of experimentation, but we got there.
I'm kind of cheating here, but not. I'm listening to a BBC television show while gaming, but the catch is it's an actual audio-recording of the show from their library so it does count. It's called The Young Ones and stars Adrian Edmondson, Rik Mayall, Nigel Planer, Christopher Ryan, and Alexei Sayle. It's certainly different but there is music too, Dexys Midnight Runners, Motörhead and Madness (House of Fun) It's playing while I explore in Crimson Desert, it's plaything through the PS5, all the sound effects/etc are still in the game, but it's good company. BBC have done that for other shows too, it's how I first saw Father Ted, the accents were tough so I listened first, then watched it with my eyes. I think I also have one for Fawlty Towers and I might try Black Adder, Red Dwarf seems far too long.
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@DrVenture69 I remember Dogtanian (and Vicky The Viking & Robo Story) from when I was a kid You got some classic TV show there. I liked ATHF too. My icon is from The Venture Brothers which is also worth a watch (about a has been super-scientist and his two dorky sons), and if you like metal music, Metalocalypse is worth a watch. The first four seasons are great, I wasn't a huge fan of the two movies though
I moved this here because we went off movies and onto Television.
The thing with Television is that it can be overwhelming because there seems to be a near infinite amount of shows and (serials? I might have the wrong name) I think also like when I tried South Park some of those episodes were a kind of product of their time, mainly because they echoed the political shifts and fluctuations of America, the pop-culture of the time too and it was all very foreign. Friends was a lot easier to digest and Aqua Teen Hunger Force was I think the first English anything I ever watched on television. I'd just moved to New York, it was very alien, I tried some 'channel surfing' found that Network, saw those characters and stayed up all night watching it. The next day I got the box-set and watched all of those too, it was so weird and funny, I still to this day watch those episodes.
I think I've heard the name Venture Brothers so I'll definitely look into it. Metalocalypse I know from my time in the music industry, it was all Metal, people talked about the show and I never got around to trying it. One of the tour managers were nicknamed 'the rock and roll clown', I know it came from the show. It's also a time thing, unlike movies it's a constant flow of those characters and their world. Which I can definitely see the benefits of but there are so many hours in the day. I also try to avoid bias in media, I'm never sure what to expect from places like Netflix. I'm still trying to transition out of the Hallmark Channel, those shows aren't as severe, loud, or as involved in things I don't understand. I'm mostly fine with animation and have a list made of: Archer, Bob's Burgers, Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, King of The Hill, and a couple of others.
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@GirlVersusGame I LOVE the Young Ones, I first saw it at 12 and I think it was the first British comedy I found funny (same with Fawlty Towers). It’s weird seeing Viven (Adrian Edmondson) in Alien: Earth (as Atom Eins) 44 years later.
I love the line about ‘The Rock and Roll Clown’ (Dr. Rockso “I do cocaine, baby!’ He’s a great character in the show
@DrVenture69 I LOVE the Young Ones, I first saw it at 12 and I think it was the first British comedy I found funny (same with Fawlty Towers). It’s weird seeing Viven (Adrian Edmondson) in Alien: Earth (as Atom Eins) 44 years later.
I've had Alien Earth on me 'I need to watch this' for so long now, I love the movies, even like we talked about Resurrection but I keep forgetting about the show. I think he was also in Guesthouse Paradiso with Rick Mayal, it's based on a show that I've yet to watch but I did like the movie. It felt a little like Withnail and I, except more violent and outrageous. I think I found Fawlty Towers through Monthy Python, and John Cleese is just so funny. He put so much emotion into that show and his frustration with the hotel and everything in it seems so real. I watched a live show of his once, he had to your because he was getting a divorce and his wife was taking everything, so naturally that was part of the show too. I've seen also the man from Black Books, the other one Bill Bailey, Dara O'brian, and a few others. My favorite person to see live is the Director Kevin Smith, he's always really good and just tells it like it is. Does stand-up count as television? I imagine it was first broadcast for television.
I love the line about ‘The Rock and Roll Clown’ (Dr. Rockso “I do cocaine, baby!’ He’s a great character in the show
That white snow is why they called him that, he did do cocaine baby, so much that he wrapped a tour-bus around a tree, I never saw him do it but I did see the bus afterwards. It looked like Godzilla hit it with his tail, how no one was injured is a miracle.
Do you know of any other good older British shows worth watching? I was about to try one made by MTV England called Top Buzzer, it sounds funny.
One main reason is it seems to have a lot of good bands on the credits, because it was MTV
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@GirlVersusGame If you like comedies, Green Wing (set in a hospital, very funny, more than a bit surreal) is brilliant. Spaced is also a fantastic show (two people pushed together as flat mates and their weird circle of friends, it also has Micheal Smiley (as “Tyres”, who is also in Alien: Earth) and a cameo with Bill Bailey as “Bilbo” a comic book store owner). Not English, but 30 Rock is probably one of my favourite comedies of all time (I watch it every year too), it’s Tina Fey as a TV show producer herding her infantile cast. Larry Sanders is also a smart comedy about a talk show host on and off the air. They’re all shows I’d watch over and over and never get bored of.
QI (stands for Quite Interesting) is a brilliant panel show which had Dara O’Brien and Bill Bailey on it at times. IPlayer has all the seasons (something like 20!), it’s smart and informative and is hosted by Stephen Fry. If you like learning useless information (it’s the only information my brain retains ), it’s worth a look. A good chill-out show. Now I’m worried I’m adding to your massive backlog of shows
I loved the first couple of episodes of Alien: Earth, I think there are a couple of more flat ones (I’ve got about 3 left to watch). It looks like it’s been picked up for another season too.
And yeah, if it’s been broadcast (Kevin Smith’s) you could call it a TV show, probably a “Comedy Special”. “Seasons”, “Shows” and “Serials” are a bit interchangeable. A “Season” is a set of shows (we used to call them “programmes” in the UK, but I think everything gets called a “show” now. I think “Season” is a lot more common than “serial” now. I keep forgetting English isn’t your first language . I always say I only speak English and I struggle with that
@DrVenture69 Sorry I missed your reply, or rather I saw one and not the other.
If you like comedies, Green Wing (set in a hospital, very funny, more than a bit surreal) is brilliant.
I definitely haven't heard of that one. I loved George Clooney in From Dusk till Dawn, his show E.R. was recommended to me, it seems rather hefty in it's series/numbers.
Spaced is also a fantastic show (two people pushed together as flat mates and their weird circle of friends, it also has Micheal Smiley (as “Tyres”, who is also in Alien: Earth) and a cameo with Bill Bailey as “Bilbo” a comic book store owner).
I really liked Bill Bailey in Black Books. I saw him eat 'the little book of calm', loved the episode then attended a live show, he's a really funny man. Something tells me he would be a comic-book store owner, in another life, he's weird but seems really intelligent. And he has musical talent, a lot of the live show was built around music.
Not English, but 30 Rock is probably one of my favourite comedies of all time (I watch it every year too), it’s Tina Fey as a TV show producer herding her infantile cast. Larry Sanders is also a smart comedy about a talk show host on and off the air. They’re all shows I’d watch over and over and never get bored of.
This one I've heard of, the same person why said I need to watch The Big Bang Theory said I needed to try that one too.
QI (stands for Quite Interesting) is a brilliant panel show which had Dara O’Brien and Bill Bailey on it at times. IPlayer has all the seasons (something like 20!), it’s smart and informative and is hosted by Stephen Fry. If you like learning useless information (it’s the only information my brain retains ), it’s worth a look. A good chill-out show. Now I’m worried I’m adding to your massive backlog of shows
Bill Bailey again means it's a no brainer, Dara I also saw live, he's the one who talked about buying movies, games, music, having no time to play them. Then one day he did have some free time, didn't know what to do, played Grand Theft Auto for an hour and sort of spaced out. He also said 'if your home hasn't got curtains? I'll be looking in', he's really funny too.
I loved the first couple of episodes of Alien: Earth, I think there are a couple of more flat ones (I’ve got about 3 left to watch). It looks like it’s been picked up for another season too.
Perhaps I'll wait until the make and finish the second.
And yeah, if it’s been broadcast (Kevin Smith’s) you could call it a TV show, probably a “Comedy Special”. “Seasons”, “Shows” and “Serials” are a bit interchangeable.
For Kevin Smith it's his live talks, an evening with. I'll see if Youtube has any.
I have all of his DVD shows of those Evening With/Etc
I'll check for typos tomorrow, I forgot to hit post earlier.
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@GirlVersusGame No worries . If you want to add another show to the list, I’ve just watched the last episode of the Fargo TV show (Season 5). The film and the shows are so worth watching. The TV show get’s a lot weirder (which I love) than the film. It’s by Noah Hawley who also did Legion and Alien: Earth.
I don’t know if you’ve seen the Hannibal TV series, but that’s another one that I love. They’re both ‘prestige TV’, smart writing, beautifully shot. It has a character who’s just in a few scenes called The Wendigo (or Raven-Stag) which has strong Leshen vibes (which I know from The Witcher). Might be up your alley . I think Season 3 repeats a bit too much of Season 1 & 2, but they’re so good. I love Hannibal the film (the operatic season has the most beautiful music, we might have talked about it when discussing Everyone’s Gone to the Rapture, it’s Vide Cor Meum)
binging through some episodes of the old Mr Bean show on Tubi. only watching the funny episodes that i remember watching a little bit on HBO back in the day
@DrVenture69 Sorry I had so many windows open with unfinished replies and this was yet another that I forgot to press post on.
I don’t know if you’ve seen the Hannibal TV series, but that’s another one that I love. They’re both ‘prestige TV’, smart writing, beautifully shot. It has a character who’s just in a few scenes called The Wendigo (or Raven-Stag) which has strong Leshen vibes (which I know from The Witcher). Might be up your alley . I think Season 3 repeats a bit too much of Season 1 & 2, but they’re so good. I love Hannibal the film (the operatic season has the most beautiful music, we might have talked about it when discussing Everyone’s Gone to the Rapture, it’s Vide Cor Meum)
I saw this at perhaps four in the AM and was half asleep. I thought you said strong lesbian vibes not leshen vibes and started laughing when I realized my mistake just now. Fargo the movie is absolutely fantastic, I'm sure I heard about the show at some point too. I knew someone on the PSN from North Dakota and each time we talked I felt like I was in that movie. We always joked about the wood-chipper too. It's such a great accent I love it, I borrowed some of his sayings. Like 'you betcha'' from when I liked the former Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin. In my defense I was really small and I saw her somewhere then picked up 'you betcha', I never stopped saying it. She said she could see Russia from her doorstep, technically you can from Big Diomede in the Bering Strait, so she was kind of right you can. It would be about three-miles so if there were no clouds/fog and these things, but from her home? no.
No worries . If you want to add another show to the list, I’ve just watched the last episode of the Fargo TV show (Season 5). The film and the shows are so worth watching. The TV show get’s a lot weirder (which I love) than the film. It’s by Noah Hawley who also did Legion and Alien: Earth.
I wonder is it the same Legion with the angels (checks) it's not, I was thinking of the movie, the blurb reads 'Angels attacking humanity, led by a fallen angel defending a diner', it was pretty bad.
I don’t know if you’ve seen the Hannibal TV series, but that’s another one that I love. They’re both ‘prestige TV’, smart writing, beautifully shot.
I love the Lector movies, my favorite being Michael Maan's Manhunter, it's pure Eighties, the clothes, the music, it's so good. (I forgot to press post again) but yes it's such a good movie and a lot of people think Silence of the Lambs was the first Lector, it wasn't. Tom Noonan is so good as Francis Dollarhyde. I know people say Robocop 2 wasn't that good (Three is worse, and the play it safe new one) but I think his role as Cain was fun, he's really good and creepy as The Ripper in Last Action Hero too. I should watch Hannibal sometime I like the character I really liked Mads Mikkelsen in The Hunt and in James Bond, the scene with the chair was very original and I prefer Bond villains to Bond himself except for Timothy Dalton, he ages like fine wine (I forgot to hit press again, I'm sick at the moment and my focus just floats away) It's been a crazy week.
These violent delights have violent ends & in their triumph die, like fire & powder Which, as they kiss, consume.
@GirlVersusGame, honestly don't worry at all, catch up when you want to It sometimes feels like you are keeping all of the PushSquare threads going single-handed
"Strong lesbian vibe" cracked me up. Lot's of power tools, Indigo Girls music (I love 'Closer to Fine'!)
Yeah, I love the accents in Fargo too ('Oh yaaar!'). The Legion show I was talking about was another Noah Hawley (Fargo, Alien: Earth). It's a Marvel property: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5114356/
And yeah, Manhunter (like LA Takedown being the original version of Heat) is a fantastic film. Tom Noonan was really disturbing in it, damn good actor.
Honestly, just reply when/if you want. No pressure
@DrVenture69 honestly don't worry at all, catch up when you want to It sometimes feels like you are keeping all of the PushSquare threads going single-handed
I spent most of the Summer at sea, bored out of my mind. It was a forced vacation because 'I needed it', I really didn't. I'm rarely online in the Summer so I made the best of that time by talking to everyone and anyone and their cat on here. This community has been good to me and is good to others. I think also there's been so much negativity because of closures, job losses, and then all of the Sony hate. It was starting to feel depressing so I pushed that little harder to spark up conversations, others did too. I think it's so that others might remember that sometimes it's about more than the numbers. Obviously it's not a solo effort but I do like a good conversation and when someone says I talk to much I hit the magic ignore button. If you noticed then thank you.
Yeah, I love the accents in Fargo too ('Oh yaaar!'). The Legion show I was talking about was another Noah Hawley (Fargo, Alien: Earth). It's a Marvel property: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5114356/
I'm very behind on Marvel. I saw half of one Avengers movie, not much else. I did watch the DareDevil show and adored Wilson Fisk. At first glance he appeared like every man in my life, he looks like the stereotypical Russian businessman, bulky like a bear too. But bears can be protective, comfy too. He was big, capable and could remove a mans head with his grasp, but there was a vulnerability there too. I don't think that fragile would be the right word. I remember his character had a traumatic childhood, and so he carried a lot of rage. He did want to be on top and he worked hard to get there (unpopular opinion perhaps)
There was the woman Vanessa, His woman. She reached a part of him that no one else could, in return he tried to rebuild the city and into what he deemed as safe, he wanted to protect her, I understood that. I suppose I understood him because I understand the psychology, I've been around it my whole life and I'd never seen a movie or any other medium capture that kind of intense balance. In truth I don't watch that kind of content for the good guy, I don't understand them. A rare exception is Batman, he had a reason. Frank Castle too, if you harm a man's Family you do deserve what he did to them. But that brings up the question of vigilantism and we did talk about that topic not too long ago in the movie thread. I'm sure I echoed the same words. When it's a piece of media I understand it's not real, my morals can be left at the door. When it's real life it's more complicated. I think also Fisk had an honesty about him. When she asked what he sensed from that white rabbit painting 'it makes me feel alone', that painting then became a kind of Rorschach test, it and she allowed him to really express and evoke a genuine response.
Overtime that same painting became a symbol for his devotion to her, it gave him not only a new perspective but a reason for everything. Men like Fisk aren't born bad, they are victims of their circumstances. I can't say much for Marvel, I just know that the show caught lightening in a bottle (for me) his performance is something I sometimes revisit. DareDevil to me then becomes the enemy because he tried to use the law of the land (his law) to drive a wedge between their love, I don't believe in using people as pawns. So for me DareDevil isn't the story of a man who is blinded and becomes a hero, it's a story of love between two people and of the man who tried to come between it. If that man had multiple fractures because of his efforts? then good, love hurts and so does provoking a wild beast.
"Strong lesbian vibe" cracked me up. Lot's of power tools, Indigo Girls music (I love 'Closer to Fine'!)
I've never heard of them (checking) Okay yes that figures, they are LGBT allies so that's why. My default browser/and life blocks everything like that. It's seen as extremism and carries a prison sentence. I'm giving them a listen now, treason, but such is life. They sound good, like something you might hear in a Nineties movie where the camera pulls out and someone drives along on their journey. The sobering and yet disturbing part for me is that it says Eighties and I love music, yet I only heard of them today. It makes me wonder what else I don't know exists, I should be angry, or sad, I'm just curious.
These violent delights have violent ends & in their triumph die, like fire & powder Which, as they kiss, consume.
@GirlVersusGame, yeah I felt that negativity too. I was even looking at other sites and coming to PushSquare less. You did something constructive though. Well done!
@DrVenture69 It's one big Group effort, but thank you. This is the only gaming site I've ever seen, I was directed towards this one because of the forum. Which I was told is a relic of the internet that Person once knew, the way I live is a relic of a different time so it became a perfect fit. Outside of this for me is all Telegram, Tor, Encrypted Chatrooms, they all exist in their own kind of environment with varying levels intensity, I think one eventually gets tired of living in and knowing only those darker corners. Here there is no affiliation, it might at times feel hectic but I find it very calming. It's good to see more people trying different threads too, everyone has a favorite movie, a song that means something to them, a show or as I've seen some people are lonely and just want to share a brief few somethings with other people. I think humanity has a duty to take care of it's own, we sometimes divide that duty between tribal affiliation, race, gender, any number of things, it doesn't take much effort to listen and then form a thoughtful opinion.
These violent delights have violent ends & in their triumph die, like fire & powder Which, as they kiss, consume.
Watched all of Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. Tatiana Maslani was brilliant in the lead, so good in fact that the missus is actually coming around to the idea of watching her previous show Orphan Black, which I have fancied watching for years.
If anyone’s looking for a post-modern mystery thriller, served up with a side of sardonic wit… well it’s slim pickings and you could do a lot worse.
Might not feel like it but these are your glory days.
The "salad years" you know?
Nothing is going to beat who you are now.
You can't see all the ****ed up 💩 that's looming on the horizon.
Enjoy this dude
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