
Trust me, I don’t take any pleasure writing an article like this, but I think Hermen Hulst may need to be ejected from the top job at PS Studios pronto.
I’ve been circling this opinion for quite some time, but today’s bad news about Horizon Hunters Gathering is the final nail in the coffin for me.
As I said, I don’t like writing like this.
But Hulst is a well remunerated exec at the very highest level of a lucrative business; his decisions determine the fate of the thousands of employees under PlayStation’s umbrella.
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And while I appreciate many voices contribute to the state of Sony’s first-party, Hulst has been head of PS Studios since 2019, and currently has the title CEO of the Studio Business Group. The buck stops with him.
It’s not all been bad since he took over the job from esteemed executive Shuhei Yoshida; the platform holder’s released many successful games, like Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 and Ghost of Yotei.

From a financial perspective it’s also performing better than any gaming company has in history, with a record-breaking fiscal year forecast for the current term. It’d be reductive to say Hulst has played no part in that.
But without undermining all of the work of its talented teams, the manufacturer’s biggest internal success stories have been iterative by nature.
MLB The Show has continued to churn under San Diego Studio’s stewardship (although it has successfully expanded to multiple platforms); Santa Monica Studio built on God of War 2018 with the familiar but fantastic God of War Ragnarok.
There have been breakout success stories like Helldivers 2, but aside from the aforementioned, I think Sony’s first-party has taken a step or two backwards under Hulst’s leadership.
Naughty Dog is yet to ship a new title this generation, spending several years working on an almost-complete multiplayer version of The Last of Us, which was infamously scrapped.

Remake specialist Bluepoint was shuttered after wasting years working on an online God of War game and then subsequently failing to settle on another project.
Bend Studio has failed to follow up on the underappreciated success of Days Gone, and is unlikely to ship a new game this generation either.
Hulst has successfully nurtured Team Asobi into a Game of the Year winning studio which should be acknowledged, but it’s come at the cost of Japan Studio – a beloved outfit that may have been messy internally, but produced games enthusiasts loved.
And the investment into live service has been nothing short of disastrous, with Concord becoming one of the most embarrassing releases in Sony’s entire history when it was shut down and refunded within weeks.

Any attempts to succeed in the live service space have struggled, with big swings like Fairgames and 4Loop unlikely to ever make back their investment – if they even release at all.
Meanwhile, the manufacturer’s acquisition of Bungie has completely backfired, with the critically acclaimed Marathon failing to find an audience and Destiny all-but dead.
Hulst is acting on a remit from above, and I don’t think the pursuit of live service is necessarily wrong. The manufacturer knows the bulk of its revenue is contributed by a handful of evergreen games.
But I feel the former Guerrilla managing director has utterly failed to greenlight the right projects. Many of its most important teams now find themselves years behind schedule, with no obvious route to success.
I think that’s underlined by today’s Horizon Hunters Gathering reports.

According to trusted journalist Jason Schreier, the bulk of the Amsterdam studio has been working on this co-op action game, which is now being repurposed as a smaller-scale online product – and may yet be cancelled if it fails to impress by the end of the year.
Meanwhile, a “tiny team” has been prototyping the true sequel to Horizon Forbidden West, meaning it’ll potentially be five years or more before the follow-up to Aloy’s adventure arrives – assuming Guerrilla even survives that long.
What’s particularly egregious to me here is that fans have accused Hulst of showing favouritism to the Dutch developer, given his background with the team. And yet even they seemingly find themselves hung out to dry under his leadership.
Hulst may not be to blame alone, but he’s the man at the top. PS Studios, once the envy of the entire industry, is largely unrecognisable at this point.
It’ll continue to release successful products in the near-future with God of War Laufey, but it’s been encumbered by bad decisions that simply can’t be ignored anymore.
Where do you sit on the current state of PS Studios? Is the division being run properly, and would you stick to the current course? Or do you think changes are required to get PlayStation’s first-party back on track? Sound off below.
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- Yes, I think a fresh perspective may be needed now
- Hmm, I don't have a strong opinion either way
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He is beyond useless, everything that has happened under his watch has knocked everything that PlayStation did that was good. Consumer opinion is at an all time low and it’s just going to get worse. The sooner he is gone, the better!!
Oh Sammy u your doom and gloom lol
1000% there needs to be a change at the top, sorry Hurmen
@Bionic-Spencer only minority of the consumers are upset Twitter reddit and social media doesn't speak for all that f us
Lets see if the flock turns on their shepherd now.
‘ Hermen Hulst Has Failed and PS Studios Needs a Change’
Agreed, big time. I won’t hold my breath, but I’ll wait with anticipation for the day it changes internally.
I think The Last of Us multiplayer was a huge opportunity to capture a live service audience attached to a critically acclaimed series which is also popular outside of gaming.
Losing that when it was virtually complete was a huge swing and a miss for me.
@Oram77 shareholders say otherwise on till they are tired they are not getting replaced lol
I was really happy when they promoted him. Thought, great, he's head of a dev team doing good stuff, he'll be good for us gamers........ NOPE!!! Total opposite
Push square is getting depressing u guys are never can be happy or have any happy to write about u know the world on firing all u people care about luxury things that be gone tomorrow not worrying about the economy or cost of living lmao u guys worry about billion corporations who still going have money while u all end up being poor because u allow corporations and your governments get away with so much crap
A fresh perspective was needed years ago. PlayStation has been going downhill in quality for half a decade. Let's not forget that his incompetence is responsible for the possible most expensive mistake in video game history.
His mismanagement is also directly responsible for the closure of Bluepoint Studios.
He's absolutely pathetic at his job and if he was in any other position he would've been long gone. The only reason he stayed is because there's always someone beneath him that can be blamed for his failures.
@LoneWolfMcBrod79 Same! I thought he'd be brilliant at the job. And like I say, it's not ALL been bad... But yeah, maybe a fresh perspective is needed now.
I think he should leave. But at the same time, it doesnt really matter to me because ps first party doesnt make games I like anymore. Wake me up when SOCOM and Starhawk come back
@Slayer25c This website is called "Push Square" not "Let's try to fix the world". If PlayStation news are too insignificant for you, you can always go somewhere more socially relevant.
Well Nishino also the same as his predecessor Jim Ryan, he wants to push more live service games. So Hermen Hulst isn't at fault here
@Slayer25c Please check out my Tides of Annihilation preview from earlier. The game blew me away and hopefully my positive impressions will cheer you up: https://www.pushsquare.com/previews/6-ways-ps5s-tides-of-annihilation-blew-me-away-after-2-hours-of-play
@rhyno_888 As I wrote in the article, I don't think they're wrong to make live service games. I just think Hulst has backed the wrong projects too many times now.
I don’t blame everything on him. No matter who got put in charge, there would’ve been a lot of pressure in focussing hard on live services.
What I do blame him for was not getting those games out at a quality that fans deserve. Killzone, SOCOM, Wipeout, Twisted Metal, PlayStation had suitable franchises and chose not to use any of the .
What we ended up with were cancelled games, and more than one live service with a truely revolting art style.
Well he did persuade Hideo Kojima to create his new 'don't call it Metal Gear' game Physint for PS6 so it's not all bad (unless that's crap!).
It's the live service golden egg they've been chasing that's been the bad decision, but micro transactions make soooo much money that the corpos are determined to catch that gravy train.
Yeah it's just too many failures at this point.
Normally I don't agree with calling for execs to step down because generally in gaming circles it's usually based on a lot of speculation. I also disagree that PS Studios are unrecognisable - when the single player games do arrive they're still as good as ever.
That said, it's clear several studios have been steered heavily in the wrong direction this gen.
Still blows my mind they closed down an extremely successful studio in BluePoint. Then Concord, then the whole Destiny/Marathon saga, then the no more physicals.
Its just appalling decision after appalling decision after appalling decision.
@Slayer25c The triviality of entertainment does not mean it's not worth concerning over.
If one is invested in the trajectory of PlayStation as a company and developer, it's more than within their right to have passion therein. Otherwise, we're being reductive of art and its industries by asserting it's unimportant nonsense entirely removed from the actuality of being alive.
Art had always proven to be an essential aspect of the human experience throughout our history. In many ways, it is as enriching as civics and society; without art, we are less human and therefore it is of immense gravity.
And to assume any critique of that art is self-defeating is to again reduce it from nourishment for the soul into slop only meant to be lapped up to distract ourselves from existential dread
@get2sammyb Obviously, it's not all his fault... but I agree with you!!! There are many mistakes and a lack of vision...
Have you noticed that he hasn't been active on social media for over two years? He used to post photos when he visited the studios.
Sammy, one question:
Who will replace him?
I don't think he was ever qualified. I was mystified when he was given the role. I'd love to say goodbye.
@Reyzore I'm available.
Definitely. He should have been gone a long time ago, at the very least after Concord.
We need someone with passion and creativity, and someone who is willing to take chances on and support the AA and indie scene, not close down the companies more creative studios.
Sadly it may all be too little too late at this point, but hopefully Sony can rebuild with new smaller studios... Not every game needs to be a AAA blockbuster.
I think it’s clear now that there was a civil war inside PlayStation and the money hats sided with the wrong team. Casualties of that siding are people like Shu, Shannon Studstill, Jeff Ross, John Garvin. On top of them: you have TLOU online, likely days gone 2, some excellent bluepoint remake, and whatever great service game they coulda made with competence at the wheel. Time to change course, immediately, and get back on the track that made PlayStation great
Finally targeting the right people I see. Love it
This is probably the most popular opinion among PlayStation fans right now, and has been for a while. It's extremely hard to find any positives about his leadership. There's no guarantee that removing him will improve matters, but he has far too many failures under his supervision to inspire any sort of confidence. Get him as far away from PlayStation as possible please.
This entire generation I've viewed Sony as a hardware manufacturer.
A company who makes alternatives to my PC, that offer better bang for buck and on which games are more likely to work half decently at launch.
In previous generations I associated them more with the exclusive first party titles they offered.
Do they need to go back to being thought of as the holder of the best games going? Why would they?
At the end of the day they don't need to release a single exclusive/first party title as I'm still going to own a PlayStation and buy 90% of third party games on there.
The only games I don't buy on PS are Nintendo/PC exclusives and they are rare and I couldn't have bought them on PS anyway.
Sony can afford to have no decent first party titles since Xbox popped its clogs. If another entrant emerges, Sony would find itself in hot water though...
I mean...yeah. Dude wasted an entire generation. Could've made a bunch of sure fire hits and instead spent all that time and money and talent chasing the dragon.
@get2sammyb Sammy, its not at all unusual for games to fail and not get released. I spent 20 years making games for the big boys, including Sony, and at least %50 of what I worked on never saw the light of day. That's the business, they aren't making a product anyone can be sure of ,as is true of many artistic endeavours. A lot of games being cancelled is absolutely par for the course and always has been.
I don't know why, but I've never liked Herman so I'd be happy to see him go, but definitely for his lack of audience engagement and remoteness rather than the usual churn of games. Unfortunately its all about the financial bottom line and I rather expect he will be around like a bad pantomime villain for years to come.
I no longer have a horse in this race after January 2028, but my god has this guy (and gen for the most part) been a freaking disaster. It sounds like not just Hulst but most of the executives making decisions need to be broomed and actual competent people put in.
Naughty Dog just making remaster after remaster, giving us that hunters gathering game instead of the next ACTUAL Horizon game (five years away? Guess I’ll never play it!) and so many idiotic decisions that seem like Sony just doesn’t care. At all.
I’m almost glad they’re going no disc now. It gives me an excuse to make a clean break when it actually happens.
I would be inclined to bring back the management towards the middle of ps3 era that went into early ps4 era. Look at the quantity of quality and original games that came around. The ps3 era was a massive turnaround and it was due to the games
Fire him and hire someone who does know their demographic. It's very strange and kind of depressing reading through old Playstation magazines (I'm sorting demo discs) and reading all of the player feedback, hype and genuine excitement and respect for the brand. On the plus side the editorial side of this site feels very similar, but the news/etc is so much brighter in those magazines because it was such a different time. It feels like finding something you love but at the worst possible time. I'd like to have been around for the launch of the PS5 itself, and I dread being around for the launch of the PS6.
He need to go in time of Concord i mean how he still there after this disaster?
@Dogbreath No one is going to enter a declining market; very few—very few indeed—can do what Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo do in the gaming industry.
And we all think Hermen Hulst actually makes all these decisions.
How do we know he didn’t oppose some of them and got over ruled from above.
I can’t see any Japanese company letting a man in his position making those decisions without sign off from above.
Now he could have advised them wrong in what to sign off or he may of opposed their choices and it’s not his fault.
@Titntin I'm no big city developer, but I don't think Factions, Concord, or even the Horizon project are at all aligned with the normal sort of dropped projects and cancellations.
Usually those kinds of projects don't even become publicly known, let alone have seen enough investment to be so near release.
I think that their respective developers are either dead or haven't produced anything else this whole time should be evidence enough of the abnormality.
Hulst has been nothing but detrimental to the company. For a guy that led the studio that created one of Sony's most successful original IPs, it's shocking how out of touch he is with everything in the Playstation ecosystem and seems to fundamentally misunderstand the concept of supply and demand.
Just because Destiny is a huge success doesn't mean people are clamoring for live-service games as a platform. That coupled with the closure of studios with major bona fides under his leadership just screams that this guy just doesn't get it.
For the sake of hardcore PlayStation fans he needs to be publicly fired, but in reality he'll play out the rest of his current contract and go out with a whimper.
@RoomWithaMoose Concord certainly not.. that was a disaster and a half and no mistake. Certainly not part of the normal churn.
...and the whole Bungie thing is also not normal - they seemed hugely over valued and that kind of botched investment I'll agree is also not normal churn
Social media tends to ensure people have an eye on what your studio is doing these days. I left the business in 2003ish when you could work on something for ages with few knowing what it was. It was rare for a game to get close to publication before it was cut though, that does point to a failure in management structure in identifying its failures earlier... which I guess is ultimately Hermens issue.
He should be fired because he has really butchered playstation studios and the perception is at an all time low. Sadly, the only thing that matters is profit and if they think he's leading the group to a good profit, he'll stick around.
Problem is failing it he eyes of gamers does not equal failing it the eyes of Sony. Sony looks to make money. Sony is making money. I don’t think Sony sees him as the failure we do who just hate things live service gaming.
I think it says a lot that Playstation is about to have a record breaking year....almost exclusively off of stuff that they have nothing to do with.
The 30% cut is wildly successful for them, on every little transaction made. And we know for additional purchases, it outdoes software overall.
First party software sales are almost diabolical especially in comparison, only 6m units across EVERYTHING new and old in a year is tragic.
At what point does Sony acknowledge what it's always been: the house that other companies built. PS1 thrived on exclusive games made by other people, and just other people in general before they even had a first party lineup.
Their earnings show this is now even more true.
If discs don't need to exist at around 20% of all sales, then first party Playstation certainly doesn't with its revenue split and the massive costs associated with keeping them running.
They need to realize what made PS such a powerhouse of a console in the first place. Without their fans, PS is nothing. Sad how Sony nowadays just thinks of what their investors are thinking and see their fans as nothing but blind consumers.
Anyone who has ever asked a single-player game studio to make a live-service game needs to find a different industry.
I received a PS1 for Christmas the year it came out and have been an avid Playstation fan ever since. This is the 1st generation where I've logged way more PC hours than Playstation hours, and I'm not sure I see myself turning back at this point...
Maybe a stretch, but I was looking for an "I'm now actively hoping that Sony continue to screw the pooch until there's nothing left after their extreme hubris." option. I always wanted PlayStation to do well, but it's got so bad I actually want them to fail now. They're not letting me down in this regard.
At the end of the day, nothing will change until Sony start to lose money, which might not happen until they lose a large enough portion of their fans. Even then I'm not sure that will happen. Sony have essentially become a casino, creaming off the top from the churn that goes though their ecosystem. The same thing happened to Valve with steam. I fully expect them to give up on making expensive first party single player games completely next. Why would they bother putting in all that money and effort, when they can just make billions from microtransactions and other people's hard work?
People don't seem to realise that the current trajectory isn't an outlier and course that will be corrected. It's a trend that will continue in search of as much profit for as little risk and effort.
At this point, I agree. Playstation's output has been abysmal this generation and the live service push has been a catastrophic failure. Only 1 game (maybe 2 if you count Gran Turismo 7) has been a success (Helldivers II). Concord made Sony a laughing stock. The Last of Us Online was cancelled by Naughty Dog, but cost them 7 years of dev time and millions of dollars. Marathon is hanging by a thread. Bluepoint was closed after their God of War live service game (that they had no business working on) was cancelled. London Studio was closed when it's live service game was cancelled. Bend Studio wasted 5 years on a live service game and they may not survive. And now Guerilla is likely in trouble too. I guess it's a miracle that Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, and Insomniac were not making live service games.
I'm not pretending to know the insides of Sony and who's at fault. That's for them to figure out. But they really should hold the ones responsible for all these failures to account. And not the devs who just do what they're told.
Ive said this in a previous comment and I'll say it here. Sony would be fighting for there lives if it wasnt for the mistakes by Microsoft. They're on a high horse right now and think they can do no wrong. They had a successful PS5 generation off the good will built during the PS4 era. The compounding bad decisions wont start to show an effect until about midway through the PS6 life cycle. Your hardcore fan base is going to think twice about upgrading because they're pissed off, and your F2P ninjas will probably stay put on PS4/PS5 until absolutely forced to move on. The only way they salvage this is get rid of Hulst and return to form now and then maybe five years down the road people will believe the change is real, but we all know that wont happen.
@get2sammyb you know what Sammy I actually liked this article. I'd usually have a dig at you for producing another rage bait article but this one resonated with me. All the top ip's that Sony sit on and all they've done is chase the live service model unsuccessfully. As much as I love marathon the game drastically needs fresh game modes as I am starting to drift back into bf6 and helldivers 2 for my online mayhem. Hulst needs to go-i mean look at the 90% voting figure which is probably the highest figure I've ever seen in a pushsquare poll. Imagine if Sony had taken in studios such as codemasters and criterion etc (yeah I'm biased because I wanted more dirt rally and burnout and I'm still super f**king salty about EA shafting codies.) No syphon filter,killzone,resistance,wipeout etc,etc,etc has really grated on me for the last 2 generations truth be told so yeah Sony need a massive shake up and hulst needs to go.
I agree, Hulst has to go. But will he? As Sammy points out in the article, Playstation is making tons of money and y'know the investors love that.
The best thing for the games industry as a whole at this point would be to shutdown Fortnite Roblox and the like. Or it’s all we are going to be left with. All these amazing games that get made and don’t get a look in. It’s tragic
I'm curious as to why some people picked "No" 🤔
I'd like to read their perspective on why they think Huslt should keep leading.
I still can't believe that the first screenshot is real. People here have a raging hateboner for AI, bu that is way worse than AI drawing.
Oof. 90%
My comment needs to be longer.
@Deadlyblack yes but I’m sure these investors also know that 70-80% of that revenue comes from 5-6 games alone and none of those will be PS Studios games
@RawnDawn Hulst has much free time and made several accounts.
@GirlVersusGame " I dread being around for the launch of the PS6." Oh I'm looking forwards to it personally..I can't wait to see exactly how everybody here who's been against it suddenly wants a piece of the action. It's going to very entertaining.
He's a Jim Ryan disciple he was always a bad choice to lead PS.
It feels like the legacy of this generation will be Microsoft and Sony competing for who can damage their own brand the most meanwhile Nintendo prepares for a future where the only console you need is a Switch 2.
"From a financial perspective it’s also performing better than any gaming company has in history, with a record-breaking fiscal year forecast for the current term."
And this is exactly why he isn't going anywhere. All Sony cares about is the bottom line.
@Juic3B0x @DennisReynolds bring back kaz, shuei and all the good guys who’s hearts and souls were about the gamers not the profit margins.
The biggest problem is Sony has dropped the ball this gen and are still cleaning up. Due to this, the corporate folks get paid and the lower tier get let go.
I see the same thing in my line of work. The company excels despite itself, but the 9-5'ers catch the stray bullets from up top.
Yeah, Hermen needs to be shown the door.
Not really relevant, but has anyone else ever noticed the odd way Hermen Hulst addresses the camera whenever he’s in front of it? He does this weird thing where he tilts his head way back and looks down his nose at you. Seriously, go rewatch a showcase or something where he’s onscreen and if you wait long enough, he’ll do it. Pretty bizarre
In the mid to long term I see real problems for playstation and part of that is that problem is a growing disinterest in it's first party.
I really believe Sony has to find a spark of creativity to grow some interest in the brand. The only game I think can do this is Intergalactic and that's because Naughty dog themselves are a special team, probably little to do with Herman Hulst and his direction.
I get that Sony is less reliant on it's hardcore fans than it used to be but the hardcore are the ones who are buying first party titles day one. Driving interest in the brand.
I absolutely think a fresh perspective is what's needed, I don't think this role was ever truly right for Herman.
All I know is I wont be in any rush to get a ps6 (if at all) the same way I was rushing to get the ps5.
He's been a complete disaster, those great games that came in the first few years of his tenure would have already been in development. His push for live services has been an unmitigated disaster and left several studios floundering and with no releases on the horizon
Lad's got to go. PlayStation's success this generation is more down to Xbox's incompetence than anything else. They don't have any competition, and if they did, shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly would have been punished. They're lucky.
PlayStation first party has been a catastrophe this generation. Hulst has to go.
@johncalmc so true. In any other generation they'd be in big trouble.
They're lucky, but luck does run out! They do have time to course correct though, and new leadership would be a start.
@Northern_munkey The part that bothers me is the price. I did have a PS5 and before day one, the country I was in at the time was lawless and things grow legs and walk, if you know this meaning. That wasn't the problem. The problem came when I realized my PSN friends didn't have one even on launch day. One friend in Brazil would have had to save their wages for months to buy one, he was priced out of having one, for years. They are saying this machine will be one-thousand+ GBP, now I know that's a lot for some people.
I do like shiny things but not at the expense of making someone else feel less than. Sony don't care about that, I see it as creating a division in the community. I'd like to be wrong but it does seem like some people really are struggling. If you were around these parts and elsewhere for the PS5 launch was it similar? did price factor into peoples grievances? I've seen Bozzers bling and your wheel, I imagine you just save up?
Public opinion on PlayStation and Sony is at its lowest point since the PS3 launch. It's just sad to see what they are doing.
We’ve been saying that for 2 years plus
He absolutely needs to go, he's done nothing good for sony's customers since he took the job. His live service push and trying to push Horizon further than it can go because its his baby have been a train wreck.
If you think getting rid of Herman will change a thing, you are in a fantasy of the mind. $100+ billion in tariff money is being given back to the corps as we speak. Did they lower prices back down or give money back to those they passed the cost on to? Does anything ever change in trajectory in a major way with each new political puppet in power dancing for the cameras?
No. This is a systemic problem and Sony has deteriorated on a structural level due to the nature of the shareholder led endless growth model.
If you once again fall for the symbolic firing of the person in charge, you're playing right into the gaslighting.
The only thing that changes the minds of those sociopaths is for you to stop giving them money.
I think his many press conferences where he expressed faith in projects dead long before arrival should reflect on his perceived level of competence.
Also, PlayStation has under his direction made way too many blunders that has had real life consequences in layoffs and price rises.
The most hated developments under his watch are in my humble opinion:
*Allowing Naughty Dog, the crown jewel, to pursue polarizing direction in TLOU2 effectively fracturing their fan base and leaving them naught but defunct under floundering direction by Drugman. They're in dire straits all thanks to mismanagement. They might just redeem themselves with Intergalactic.
*Dismantling studios like Japan Studios just to greenlight the formation of a hack studio (Haven) that'll never release anything. His praise of the studio when announcing it really shows the defiency of sound judgement. This is entirely sunk cost.
*Buying Bungie that had a waning star in Destiny 2 and apparently greenlighting a niche live service and dismantling Bungie after spending billions on retention of staff in the initial phase. Clumsy and expensive. And entirely avoidable. At the very least, work on Destiny 3 should have started on acquisition. I still think Marathon carries potential to be bigger, but they need to dial in the right configuration. At this point, only scraps are salvageable in my opinion.
*Allowing Bend to drift astray and failing to step in and facilitate the greenlighting of Days Gone 2 which would become a commercial success as the original game continues to delight players finding this game even today.
*Not being able to find sustainable work for Bluepoint.
*Failing to assess the market reach of Concord before investing big and hyping huge. The future of PlayStation is perhaps his most laughable quote.
These comments sections rarely agree as a unit, but I guarantee if you pull up one of the articles from years back about Sony deciding to make a live service push, damn near all of us were saying this would be a spectacular flop and WTF are they doing. I've never spent a dime on live service anything and never will.
I don’t get why they don’t have another studio than Naughty Dogs finish and support faction. It was said it was very good, wtf…
David Brent would do a better job.
the shareholders don't seem to think so... and since shareholders are the only people that matter to sony — legacy gamers that made playstation what it is have been told to get lost — well, i see no reason why sony would throw hulst under the bus. the goal is to make money i have been told! live service slop from 3rd parties seems to be working just fine as it is. let's not go into this with the expectation that sony 1st party software needs to be good or even matters anymore... if it did, sony wouldn't have closed down bluepoint or japan studio. both were profitable ventures, but didn't move the needle enough for the shareholders to get excited. that is the sorry state of sony these days.
100% agree it's time for Hulst to go
Beyond time for a change, but I’m afraid Playstation’s problems run deeper than Herman. Unfortunately, no reason to believe Sony is going to do anything about it until/if/when PS6 has a lackluster launch.
Until then, yeah go ahead and make the change but we’re just rearranging deck chairs. I’d expect more of the same until Sony gets away from trying to squeeze out every bit of profit it can find and returns to at least some focus on delighting its customers and letting the profits follow.
Its simple. PlayStation plays on its strengths and returns to strong single-player experiences and while Sharma thinks shes blazing trails, which Gears E-Day is the worst hidden Xbox lie in the spotlight of being on Steam the very next day when she'd states exclusives were everything to the revival of Xbox.... I can go on forever and I wont, but PlayStations stance with knowing exclusives sell hardware and pull away from the competition when you're good enough, even the world's biggest idiot knows Xbox was banking on PlayStation publishing on PC could Helix could make PlayStation games playable on Xbox, that was Phil Spencers back door Hulst knew, likely looked for options to block and likely found he legally couldn't so he made the decision to stop publishing on PC, thats Xboxs fault PC gamers won't see further games any time soon for the near future, but Hulst was smart to do that, though PS games should've never gone to PC to begin with, look at Nintendo, look at their success without PCs help.
Now, I know what your real frustration is, its right on your sleeves, and while I agree Hulst needs thr boot in hopes of a better exec that aligns more with good ol classic PlayStation business, what you want is a friendlier more progressive PlayStation that wants to play nice with everyone, but thats not a successful PlayStation that uses innovation to push gaming and technology forward, it just doesnt.. Competition is what SEGA brought to the market and had shown what gaming always needed, they're the playbook to follow. You want a multi-platform PlayStation and I completely disagree
Just look at the difference of PlayStations output and strategy before and after 2019.
PlayStation was a much better place with Yoshida in charge and Hulst has basically unwound all his hard work, good will and solid stream of game releases.
How he’s lasted this long is beyond me and let’s not forget he’s already been ousted as co CEO so there must be some doubts surrounding him at Sony board meetings.
Nothing personal Herman but you need to leave. You’re damaging the PlayStation brand.
@GirlVersusGame for years my wife and myself struggled and I mean really struggled. We've always been quite frugal when it comes to spending and I had nothing when I was a kid so it's always made me appreciate what I have now. My wife is a numbers person and she's always looking for mortgage deals that benefit us (we currently have around 7 years left) and her art business generates a bit of interest but it's her private commissions that along side her 9 to 5 job that brings in most of the moolah. I earn enough to be able to consider going part time (I'm 53 and I've had enough of breaking my balls every day.) So yeah we save like crazy and only purchase things when we have the funds. No credit cards or loans. I consider ourselves lucky that our hard work and persistence is paying off.
I too believe the management needs to change. Current management is far away from gaming, games, players. They do not understand this medium and focus only on chasing trends. Sony are not trendsetters anymore.
They’re incredibly fortunate that as bad as the PS leadership has been Xbox’s has been even worse.
I agree and it needs to happen fast. All i want is them to revisit their older games instead of chasing live service or yet another gow, spiderman, horizon lou etc. I want a new motorstorm, resistence, sly or a jak. Or even better brand new I.p's. The devs are more than capable of it. Little fun quirky games interspersed that don't take a whole gen to make like Japan studio made. Even games like fat princess, they were so much fun. Playstation has no soul atm, and coupled with the disc situation they are a complete laughing stock right now.
I think a new perspective may be necessary, but I also think Hulst isn't exactly to blame for everything. I think a dramatic rethink on what PS Studios does is necessary. I don't think all of their studios should be focused on AAA bleeding edge games. This puts every studio, at best, launching one exclusive title per generation.
I also don't think their live service desire was necessarily a bad idea, but I think they should have worked on smaller scale projects to see it they could find a hit, rather than developing several AAA titles that would have likely cannibalized each other if they landed.
A lot of the stuff that blows up on Steam, outside of the core mega hits, is indie games. I know that is difficult to replicate, but it has to be more affordable and put less people's jobs in jeopardy.
First party-wise, this generation has been abysmal. Once Jim Ryan left, the tone of Sony changed from its typical cool confidence to flat out blank silence too. There’s no hype anymore. Development times have slowed down and costs have inflated. We’ve seen catastrophic bombs in the first party catalog (and even when Jim was still running the show, he obviously greenlit some stinkers while being head of games). Fans are ready to burn the brand down. He didn’t think Astro Bot was worth mentioning in an investor call as a big first party title because he had his eggs in Concord’s basket. Hulst has shown that he is tone deaf as a leader of a brand.
All that said, he’s making Sony a lot of money, so I don’t know that Sony cares. I don’t know that Sony wants to be recognized as an innovator in quality circa 2026. Sony might just want to be the better place to play GTA, sports games, gatcha games, Roblox, Fortnite, and CoD. It seems to be working for them. McDonald’s is more profitable than a nice bistro, after all.
@BrokenByTheScream that’s true, if Herman did go we’d have to hope Phil Spencer wouldn’t take his place 😂
@Northern_munkey Thank you for your genuine answer, it sounds like you are both lucky to have each other. To me that's real wealth, you can't take your PS5 with you when you do eventually shuffle off to the next place, but you'll always have each other. That connection is your real investment.
It all started with Jim Ryan, you guys should have seen the disaster approaching years ago. not that it would had made a difference, because the goodwill of the PS4 was so strong. Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll get any better - $ony has a monopoly in the home console space and cOnSoOmers will never stop cOnSoOoming like zombies. Just give them their fortnite, COD, yearly sports games & third party F2P games and Playstation will continue to sell itself
Also, funny story: This morning, I seen a tiktok reel of a woman buying her husband Madden 27 and beer, and sat both on a table. When the husband came home after picking their daughter up from school, he was so ecstatic when he saw it that he was jumping up and down like a little girl himself😂 i thought it was a great video as a person, but as a gamer I kind of shook my head.
They should have fired him years ago
@GirlVersusGame ps5? I have a ps5 Pro 🤣. I actually just sold my og ps5 to my mate at work because his daughter keeps playing baldurs gate 3 and he can't get on the new fifa game and it pisses him right off. So he asked if it was for sale and I let him have it for a reasonable price.
Sony doesnt care what you all think they will fire or keep who ever they want same with keeping physical media or not they dont care what a minority on website thinks the same minority that hates live service games
Kudos for having the balls to state the obvious, Sammy. (I mean it)
Live service & PC ports was someone's agenda, I don't know if it was Layden, Jim Ryan and/or Hulst, but they finally seem to be giving it all up and are back all in on single player story driven exclusives.
I don't care who gets hired or fired, I just want PS1-PS4 PlayStation back. So much dev time wasted on this crap, just get all these studios back on track.
Can't deny the many screw ups are on his head. So unless there is some crazy reason behind it or it was somehow out of his hands then he needs to be accountable.
It's a shame playstation are doing so well financially as I doubt they'll see a need for a change at the top. Shareholders are happy.
Thing is PS Studios have never been in such a bad shape. Herman's management of them has been nothing short of shocking.
Morale seems low, layoffs are frequent, game releases infrequent. It's not a good look Herman, you've lost the faith from your faithful.
From wrong decisions over favoritism and into a vision that is detached from gamers. Change now or lose the players to the competition
Hermen the clown is a bean counter without any creative experiences as game devs and Sony big mistake was put him as SIE president who supervised all project.
He deserved to get fired after Concord failed miserably. Like seriously, at any company if you have a $400+ million project burn to crisp then you should be fired. But somehow he survive while people under him got sacrificed 🙄
Paying all of these developers is very expensive, and the financial results for PlayStation of first-party software can almost be neglected at this point.
I‘m certain that we will see a blood bath soon, even more brutal than that at Microsoft. BluePoint was just the beginning. Bend, Haven, Media Molecule, Nixxes, and a few support studios, all on the menu.
An Hermen Hulst will be the slaughterer.
@Max_the_German Maybe, but PlayStation is still doing very well financially.
Obviously they're going to want results, but remember Microsoft's situation is a bit different.
Yes, they're part of a very profitable organisation, but Xbox division has basically been setting fire to money. That's not really true of PlayStation as it's quite profitable.
I think Hulst has been. totally useless and has to be fired. I love the Horizon Franchise and the NCSOFT Multiplayer looks good but we seriously don't need a terrible live service from Guerilla they should be working on Horizon 3. He was Jim Ryans Yes man and needs to be let go before he destroys playstation even more
@get2sammyb Yes, but in big corporations, there is typically no or very limited cross-financing. After some time, each and every unit has to meet the profitability standards. And we all see that first-party titles are unnecessary to boost PlayStation‘s popularity, because it‘s very high, thanks to the huge success of the PS4.
While Nintendo successfully offers a mix of high and medium budget games, with high release cadence, Sony only needs the top-level releases to promote its platform.
In other words: PlayStation needs The Last of Us, but no Dreams. God of War, but no Days Gone. Astro Bot, but no Fairgame$.
Edit: And Microsoft MUST succeed with its studios, because now it’s one of the biggest publishers (or THE biggest?) in the world, because Xbox as a platform lost its appeal. Sony just needs some promotion in form of select top-level games, because its mainly a platform holder at the moment. And if Microsoft can slaughter, Sony (Hermen Hulst in person) can even more.
@Dalamar Lmao 🤣 that's probably it lol
The people clamoring for discs, and the people wanting Hurst gone are just the "vocal minorities", right? Social media and websites are just the loud ones. He must be doing a great job, with all the money ps brings in, right? At least that's what I've heard numerous times.
Whaddaya mean Concord was only “one of the most embarrassing releases in Sony’s entire history”? “One of”? What’s more embarrassing than Concord in anyone’s portfolio, let alone Sony’s?
@StrickenBiged Touche.
100% he has failed. Just like Jim Ryan before, Hulst needs to be fired immediately. 😡🔥 When a business is failing, it's ALWAYS the fault of management.
Thank goodness for third party developers this generation.
Not saying this lightly but Hulst is probably the worst thing that's ever happened to Playstation.
@StrickenBiged Maybe Highguard? It's definitely in the same ballpark as Concord.
He is obssessed with Horizon franchise, listen i enjoyed the game but i am not a fan and it will never be GOW, time for new killzone reboot please, there is no FPS Sony exclusive.
@get2sammyb
A very fair and well argued article in my opinion.
The thing is, Hulst is possibly doing exactly what's being asked of him - effectively, maximum profit for minimum output.
For me, this generation has been an absolute failure in terms of games. I've had every PlayStation system since the original, and I've never before purchased so few games on any of their major platforms. I actually moved home a year ago, and my PS5 is still in its box.
I expected there to be a bit of a lull in first-party games at the start of the generation, given that several studios released games around the end of the last generation, but it's ridiculous.
I'm p*ssed that Sony let Bungie effectively talk them out of TLOU Online. I'm probably an outlier in as much as I wouldn't have bothered with the game (I love TLOU, but I never enjoyed Factions) but I know many would have loved it and I'm sure it would have made money. Given the way Bungie has pretty much fumbled everything they've touched since Sony massively overpaid for them, and given that it was reportedly 80% complete, I think they should consider reviving, completing, and releasing it.
They should also have green-lit Days Gone 2. It's still not too late.
He can't be gone soon enough
@Paranoimia I think he's doing a bad job of doing what he's been told.
Like I said in the article, live service strategy makes sense. Most of the games he's picked don't make sense.
Shame.
Unfortunately I have to agree with a lot of this article. Sony first party has underperformed the last few years, and many years and many dollars have been wasted in empty pursuits.
This is at the core of why I’ve lost faith in the executive decision making. I completely understand that people make mistakes from time to time, but this has been a series of poor decisions and poor management, billions of dollars, thousands of employees livelihoods.
When people tell me that Sony knows what they’re doing with cutting off physical media, these drastic game development missteps with live service are what I point to as the major reason that I cannot have faith in the upper leadership to know the gaming industry and what players want. How can I trust that there’s any sense among them? It seems like basic common sense is all but gone. I’m not sure they know how to read and interpret gaming trends.
It certainly doesn’t look good, he has been in charge now for some time. That said there is a habit of laying problems at the feet of whoever is currently in charge. I still see people blaming Hulst for all matter of decisions that probably weren’t his and is stuck managing. Concord wasn’t a Hulst project but started with Shuhei, that hasn’t stopped people laying the blame with Hulst. So how many of these are legacy issues. Without greater transparency of decisions that are solely his it’s hard to ascertain exactly how much blame should be apportioned. Hulst has taken some good decisions like stopping PC or Multiplatform releases for anything other than live service.
Personally I think the launch line up of the PS6 will be Hulst’s legacy and the barometer to be judged by, if he last that long.
@get2sammyb Are we judging Hulst based on his decisions or current circumstances? Shuhei green lit Concord, he has himself confirmed as much. Now should that project been cancelled earlier, certainly in hindsight. It does however illustrate how far back some of these decisions reach.
"I don’t think the pursuit of live service is necessarily wrong."
Please, stop reiterating this flawed perspective. It's retrospectively obvious now, but chasing the live service golden goose has been wrong from the outset.
Just because there is a trend in your industry, it doesn't mean you should follow it. The most important aspect a business leader must take into account is how equipped your company is to go down a given strategic path.
Through this lens, the decision was always dead wrong.
Where's the should've been fired into the sun years ago option?
@Art_Vandelay Live service at its core is just dlc and monetisation. I’m not sure how long trends typically last but it’s been around now for almost decades just without the catchy label. What large multiplayer focused games aren’t basically live service at this point. Some of Sony’s games have adapted well other products a disaster. The problem was trying to artificially force it and having a mandate to invest. I agree chasing live service has been an unmitigated disaster, however being open to invest in interesting live service projects should certainly be on the table.
He's gotta go! Sony needs new blood from top to bottom.
Shrugs Hindsight is 20/20 and the internet is always filled with experts happy to jump on whatever the current bandwagon is. For a hot minute MS was gobbling down every big studio willing to be bought and there was talk about Activision games going exclusive (anyone else remember the 10 year window MS negotiated with regulators?) so the multiplayer push was a reasonable one. Things didn’t go the way most anyone expected but they worked out well enough for Sony.
I don’t feel strongly one way or the other about Hulst but generally in the game industry public faces don’t change a company’s fortunes (read: game and hardware sales) they just make the internet happy or sad. What most gamers focus on is games.
Sony and third party studios are probably working on top secret PS6 games for release. GTA 6 will do all the heavy lifting for a year or two up to its release. A big decision needs to be made. Xbox could win the next round. They own 3/4 of the big developers. This generation is on its way out.
@Art_Vandelay Making one or two live service game is okay. But forcing all 1st party studios to make live service game was wrong, especially when most of them doesn't even have the experience and resource for live service game.
Rather than forced all their 1st party to do it, what Sony should do from the start is hired 3rd party. They did the right decision with Helldivers 2, Marvel Tokon, and Horizon Steel Frontiers.
@JSnow2 I think it was probably the president of Sony at the time. Think about it. Covid has everyone indoors playing Forknife and Amogus and Destiny 2 is "massive". Sony head honchos will tell Layden and Yoshida to make those games too since it is a money printer.
They refuse probably. In comes Ryan and Hulst. They do what they can and get these projects started. The problem? The business has changed. Everyone is in the live service game now and the old dogs are proving extremely sticky.
Also, turns out maintaining consistent content updates is VERY expensive and, the playerbase expectations for these games is very high.
Basically, you got a inexperienced corporation trying to go head first into the industry without understanding it and putting 80% of their eggs in one basket. If they tested the waters with Bend and did the third party collaborations like they have with ASW and AH I think they would've done better
You'd think after Jim (lying) Ryan leaving that things would have been better for the Playstation brand. Oh they proved us wrong...
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Jim Ryan forced PlayStation down this path of looking for the big live service hit that would basically make them forever money. That never happened, players locked in with games established at the beginning of the trend and because of the money squeeze nobody can afford any more.
Instead of pivoting early (or not embarking on this in the first place) they buried their head in the sand which has cost thousands of developers their jobs.
Essentially they need to stop chasing trends as games take so long to make these days they’re going to miss the boat every time. Have your main studios work on these core cinematic single player games and have your smaller studios and 3rd party partners work on the side projects and spin offs.
For this Horizon game, couch co-op is seemingly coming back in on trend so that makes sense but will they miss the boat again?
@Titntin Whilst I've heard the arguments in the past that gaming execs don't need to constantly on the socials to engage with players, always regarded seeing the likes of a Shawn Layden, or Shuhei Yoshida you could still see their enjoyment of actually playing & sharing anecdotes about games with players.
I could've imagined a visit from the likes of them both,much like other producers from the upper division deciding the financials & viability to continue would always be tough...like when Shuhei Yoshida questioned the combat system of the God/"Dad" of War reboot & Santa Monica had to crunch their way to what the finished result was as a small example 🤔🤯
But can't help but wonder given the way Hulst even in his early days talking up all the live service games they had in development (even before Bungie), & the importance of games being spun off to movies/streaming, just gave a public inkling of his priorities being very different to those of the past asking, "Is this fun/engaging? What is the story/objectives here," etc.? It's like he missed the whole Xbox One Mattick TV,TV,TV launch disaster!😅
@Northern_munkey interesting to read your comment. I'm riding a similar boat with my wife. And I,m 56 and also quite done busting my balls every day and I can faintly see retirement in the horizon
Really surprised Horizon 3 wasnt started earlier. Huge series for Sony (massive sellers) - last game was 2022, and Hunters gathering is ultimately a side project from the main games. If this is true, it does seem very clear mismanagement.
H3 is actually one of those games that I would buy on the PS6, that’s where the focus should be. It’s Nuaghty Dog with Factions all over again.
Colin at LSM has been saying this for years.
Hulst is no Matt Booty but still, something has to change.
Oh great lords of PlayStation, bring back Shuhei.
And good article @get2sammyb
Half of Sonys income comes from live service folks, and half of all player time is in live service games (Horrific stats because if those trends continue, the single player market gets smaller). So I get their attempts at getting into that space as it’s where the market is going. The problem has been the execution and the failure to realise that live service is dominated by traditional games eg WoW, Warzone and Fortnite. Sony would be better working with partners to be the place where these games are played - which they have done in all fairness.
Similarly, for all the criticism they get. They make so much money man. Sony are projected to make more profit from gaming this financial year than any other company in gaming history (more than Nintendo made in covid). People say like: they are lucky that Microsoft have been so bad and I’m not sure on that because on the casual side of it, Sony are dominating. And people need to understand that Sony are clearly doing some things right to be in the position they are in.
This is why I stay from the ceo cult of personality. Be it nintendo, microsoft or in this case sony. They are human and will make mistakes. Hermen just made many and grave mistakes. But then again he's not alone in this. The whole leadership bracket needs a shake up imo. Get people in there that care, if they even exist anymore
@RoomWithaMoose Amazing comment. I'm going to retire from reading these sections for the year now 👍
I actually have partial agreement with the overall direction Sony took. Too many of PS Studios' games were "one and done" experiences with minimal replay value let alone long term enjoyment. They identified a legitimate weakness.
The problem is even from that perspective it has been almost exclusively misses or underperforming. Just so many wrong decisions which prove they don't understand what defines replay value or repeatable gameplay loops... Imagine if Spider-Man 2 had replayable "superhero sim" content and they eventually added coop to it. Or if Horizon 3 had been focused on instead of this disastrous spinoff, it'd likely be ready by late 2027 and if Guerilla could actually do good combat this time it could be super fun, once again maybe do a coop update? Or if Destiny 2 could've focused on its health rather than being killed, Monument of Triumph has done numbers and I guarentee longterm updates that fix the game's infamous content vault, patch technical debt and so on, would send those numbers even higher.
Or if the CEO had any sense of common sense/taste, and could metaphorically bonk studios on the head saying "that character looks like a shameless Guardians of the Galaxy ripoff, we cannot show the public that"
@Robocod Yes mate, looking from the ground up, its very difficult to like what he's been about.
I'm not a shareholder, so strong financials are low on my list of priorities, but we all know that's what will determine if he stays or goes....lets face it, he's staying.
@RawnDawn
Because this @get2sammyb largely ignores all the great things Herman has done.
Studio Japan was killed off, Herman brought is back in the form of Team Asobi.
Yes there have been some poor live service games like Marathon and concord;
But lets not forget Ghost of Yotei, HellDivers 2, AstroBot, Marvel Fighting Spirits, SAROS, Intergalactic, Wolverine, God of War Sons of Sparta.
Let's also not forget throwing Sony's weight behind: Lost Soul Aside, Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin.
Is that enough for you?
I’m Dutch and yes, he failed. He should have stayed a game develloper and make another Killzone. Too much focus on making money and not being aware what gamers want. It is a shame……NEXT!!
A well written article there @get2sammyb, and I agree wholeheartedly. 🫡
It's not just Herman — his sort-of predecessor Ryan was equally as clueless. Thing is, we don't even know what he's been doing as he never engages with the fans. Not a peep since he took over from Jimbob.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - PS5 is only successful because it's standing on the shoulders of the PS4 and the work that Shuhei, Tretton, House and Layden put in towards producing an astonishing console with a varied and interesting software line up and engaging with customers and developers alike.
If it wasn't backwards compatible the PS5 would have sunk without trace.
Sony have now burnt through all that PS4 era goodwill and now they seem entirely clueless as to what made them successful.
His job is being responsable for a lot of dissisions within the Playstation realms. You CAN defend him by saying that he did some good things but in the end he IS responsable. That’s how it works. If i f*ck up, my boss is responsable.
That is only beginning. Intergalactic will either release on PS6 release, or after. There is no chance they will finish the game still on PS5.
There are more projects that are in development and many are in same situation. There is a reason they do not share any trailers, news or there are any leaks about any of these games.
It’s just to early to share anything if there is nothing to share.
@EVIL-C Hrmm, I dunno. Highguard and Concord are definitely comparable, but I think on any comparison Highguard probably wins: it lasted longer, and it maintained higher player counts (as far as we can tell from Steam data).
@dodgykebaab
Herman had nothing to even do with this. Team asobi existed long before Herman took over. And their survival was based on guidance and foundation that was give to them by previous PlayStation leadership.
All of these games are project and good will he inherited from again… Pervious PlayStation leadership. These was not his own decision whatsoever.
Honestly, I have no idea how culpable Hulst is for the current state of PlayStation. But, it is in a dire position and needs sorting out. They're a shadow of what they were and it's very sad. Spending much more time with Nintendo these days. They're not perfect either, of course, but I think this article touches on a lot of the reasons why that's the case. I'd love to see Sony come back strong and if it takes new leadership to do that, then so be it.
At this rate, Playstation will be a streaming only service in 15/20 years.
They are finished.
Enthusiast's will go PC and the younger audience, most of which don't even game on consoles, will continue to play on mobile devices and PC.
@Vertere @PuppetMaster 100% agree. My criticism refers to the live service push.
My most played game by far this generation is GT7, which is arguably a live service game. But it's the kind of IP that lends itself naturally to the model.
100% agree. How has he survived this long? It is quite confounding. As a 40 y old who has been with PS since the PS1, I have never felt less excited about PlayStation—and their first party lineup has never been less appealing. I’ve been wondering for years if I’ll even get the PS6 if things keep going how they’ve gone.
I can't help but think what could have been had these studios, known for the single player games, actually got to work on what they do best. Time and money wasted, and worse, an entire console generation where their best studios worked on cancelled titles.
He should have been fired together with Jimbo, definitely after Concord disaster. Hard to say I still bother anyway as I don't see myself buying ps6 if there's no disc-drive addon at all provided...not even saying that I never felt so dissapointed by state of Playstation as of today. They just don't communicate and value their fans anymore, hope Sony will get some kind of wake-up call during ps6 gen, they really need that
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The Last of Us MP game was the first and biggest red flag for me. All that time and money, and then “it’s canceled.” But then comes Concord. He should have been fired or made to resign on this alone. Such a management failure on so many levels aside from the game itself. Everything else has just been exclamation points on his mismanagement. It’s been evident for a while, not sure why he is still there. I know he was demoted, but he should have been gone.
Ever since Jim Ryan came into power it basically wiped all that the PS4 gen did with Tretton, House and Layden who soon left and yes they put years in Sony but I still think there's more to it and I believe it was because Ryan was taking over the latter 2 left.
PS5 has been meh it really has and it's a system that will never see it's full potential, the gen leap wasn't massive apart from 60fps console gaming which is good. But as for games no it's been very lackluster and they've wasted billions along the process
@Imaculado_Lord what if Apple purchased Xbox, as they did with Beats?
Or some other large tech firm, Saudi wealth fund etc.
I don't think the threat comes from Steam Machines as some pundits claim.
If I were MS, I'd offload the small fry and failing developers, then sell Xbox as a ready-made PlayStation rival with just the big studios to someone with a better reputation who could potentially rebrand and grow it.
If I were an investor, I would look at an extremely leaned Xbox consisting of pure wheat and no chaff, with only your Forzas and TES 6's etc, and reckon it has growth potential and desirable if the price was right.
If that happens, Sony could be caught well and truly with their pants down if their first party exclusives are misfiring.
Buck stops with Hiroki Totoki
@Art_Vandelay
The trick is that, just like Tsushima Legends, Sony needs to make multiplayer an extra part of their single-player games. TLOU should have had Factions regardless of what Bungie said. Yotei Legends somehow killed support before even matching the content that Tsushima Legends had. No Spider-Man co-op?! Brand New Day just printed $11 million for a 3 year old game. For mutiplayer they could use SOCOM, Warhawk, Killzone, and MotorStorm.
Having co-op in Horizon would have been great even if you had to play as existing chatacters or were limited to hunts. The irony is that if Horizon Hunters Gathering just copied Monster Hunter, but had you hunting robot dinosaurs for parts with the same art style as the games, it would have likely been well received. LEGO Horizon was cute and the art style at least matched its target audience; I don't know who Hunters Gathering is targeting. Horizon Steel Frontiers at least looks the part and will likely attract Horizon fans despite being a mobile game.
To say he's failed is a massive understatement. I haven't had that "Wow" Exclusive since Spider-Man 1, GOW 2018, Uncharted 4, or the first Horizon game. All of which were PS4 titles, and all of which (except one) had disappointing sequels.
PS5 has been such a lackluster generation.
@Kelrics90 Astro Bot was awesome.
Discs too, and I need to verify my ***** age apparently to send a message.
Well it's either he is a puppet or he is just incompetent or however much other leadership have over him. If he can 'talk' sure, but the execution isn't good, so 'talking' doesn't mean he is good at leading and it shows.
Either way I agree, he needs to go.
I'll continue to use older consoles or other platforms, more fun games, not garbage game design, not OS UI that makes me refuse to buy the consoles alongside boring games, what else is new. Controller gimmicks I can skip as they aren't even interesting.
3+ times of failed mobile market attempts, many live service failures, bland games, pathetic console decisions, business practices so bad who even wants to run it at all these days. XD Messaging that's always terrible and makes us laugh at them not value them highly at all.
Why would I want to experience a bland console (good hardware, otherwise didn't interest me), features that I can skip, live service trash and weak singleplayer games, decent developer ideas here and there but mostly titled to bland games, leadership that's terrible across the board (my opinion I know others like the games, I never did during PS4, I don't PS5 either).
@profprofessorson tonmy cooper would do a better job and hes been dead years hulst is absolutely useless
PlayStation has been on a downward spiral for years. The days of 'For the Players' are long gone – they are chasing the money and Apple Inc. seems to be their biggest inspiration. Hulst doesn't appear to do anything to turn the ship around, from what we know he may even be the one responsible for many of the recent missteps. Who knows if replacing him as CEO would actually lead to PlayStation getting back on track. The whole company needs to remember what made PlayStation great in the first place and reevaluate its core values.
I agree he has to go but who you going to replace him with though? Some other useless suit that hat has no clue...
This generation has been the most underwhelming in gaming history by far. Sony's studios are not only outputting low--they're outputting uninspired, been-there-done-that games that I just can't get excited for anymore. I'm tired of Sony's third-person action-adventure combat fare--it's just OLD at this point. God of War: Laufey and Wolverine look like games I've been playing since 2018, and I'm over it. Naughty Dog really need to come through with Intergalactic, and I'm very worried about that one as well. Sony need a long, hard, introspective examination.
@ducklagom Agreed.
I respected him for the Killzone series, but I was a bit perplexed by him getting this position when he did. I really rooted for him too.
@Art_Vandelay Impossible not to read your comments in George's voice.
@KeenAerondight Lol George is getting upset!
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