I think they tried to make the show as approachable as possible for casual fans but it is more meaningful if you know and remember the lore and people from the base LotR movies/books.
It’s not really spoilers but I’ll tag it anyways, but in the original movies and books you’ll recall —
In addition to the One Ring, 19 rings of power were forged. 3 rings for the elves, 7 to the dwarves, and 9 to the kingdom of men. Of course the 9 ring bearing men become the Nazgul or Ringwraiths that chase Frodo around in the movies. You’ll recall one of the elf rings goes to Galadriel and I think one to Elrond too. The 7 dwarf rings I don’t know that we hear or see much about in the original movie or books but clearly the fall of Moria and the underground kingdom is coming eventually, we saw it overrun with orcs in the movie.
So obviously, knowing how Elrond and Galadriel turn out is helpful for context, and who Isuldur ends up becoming (he cuts the One Ring from Sauron’s hand during the war), and Celebrimdor is mentioned in the original movies as the one who forged the rings, so getting to meet him is key here.
As far as the ship sailing into the light, it’s a callback to the very end of the movies, where Elves go off into some version of their afterlife or resting place. Clearly Galadriel wasn’t ready to go yet.
Anyways, supposedly a lot of what the TV show does with the characters and lore is not fully accurate with Tolkien’s extended writings. But it fits with the movie, which is what most people want, so I think your approach is good for thinking of it like an Arrowverse for the LotR properties.
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@HallowMoonshadow Yes, I finished Arcane and just loved it. It’s one of the, if not the, favorite Netflix original show I’ve seen. Totally agree on the art and animation - stunning. And you’re right about the voice acting. And also right about the music - I’m torn as to whether I can give the musical score a thumbs up. Let’s face it, it’s cool to hate on Imagine Dragons because of their popularity and pandering to the lowest common denominator, but their stuff is catchy. But yes, the utilization of music could have been better because although I don’t remember specifically the sequence in the second episode, there was more than once during the series that I was put off by the background music they used.
My only other issue with it was the jumping and skipping of large sections of time. I know that’s part of what makes the show great too, but some clearer transition might have also helped when going from one episode to the next. I think it was a conscious stylistic choice to just jump forward like that without any fanfare, but it was also jarring and took several minutes to get one’s bearings.
Overall, it’s fabulous though. Really glad a second season is coming. I forget, did you ever watch Love, Death, and Robots? I’ve mentioned it before but you’ll probably like some of the animation in that series if you liked this.
And I’m glad to see House of Dragons hit for you. I need to finish Game of Thrones. I stopped somewhere in season 3 or 4; I just ran out of interest when I started hearing how poorly the series ended. Knowing this new one is good will help motivate me to return.
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It's mainly the licenced music I have a problem with as the instrumental tracks of the score are good @Th3solution.
I haven't got to it yet but I recall the "cameo" from Imagine Dragons is rather jarring. Didn't like the song in full either myself but the abridged version for the title sequence is alright
There's only one major timeskip isn't there? From episode 3 to 4 of a good 5-6 years? Otherwise it's rather consistant isn't it?
Good to hear you really enjoyed yourself with it. Silco was/is my favourite character thanks to being such a complex and complicated antagonist.
I haven't got round to watching Love, Death & Robots yet or Cyberpunk Edgerunners. Think I might go for Edgerunners first but I'll definitely check LDR out. Still need to give Rings Of Power a look too.
You can watch House Of The Dragon without returning to GoT if you want Sol. It's a prequel series set 200 years before GoT, detailing the events of the fall of House Targaryen and the Civil war of Succession also known as "The Dance of Dragons".
It did take a while for everything to properly click for me. It does almost feel like season 1 of Game of Thrones now that I think about it. How everything is slowly building up for one this one event to kick start everything up.
Paddy Considine performance as King Viserys is really quite something and it's well worth checking out the show just for him alone. Everyone does put in good performances of course 😄
there’s just the one major time skip. I guess it feels like several because each subplot skips ahead, so you have to piece together in your mind what happened with each subgroup of people. So there’s like 3 or 4 plotlines that you have to suss out and connect the dots of how these people got to be in this position 5 yrs later, so it seems like 4 different time skips 😅. The vagueness of what’s going on makes the reveal of Vi in prison at the end of that episode really hit well though. I loved that moment.
But it was a really huge jump from the innocent and awkward Powder transformed into a bitter and ruthless mad genius Jinx. Making up in your own mind how she got to be delusional and unhinged is, like I say, obviously an artistic choice by the writers, but it was… well to borrow your word, jarring.
There was also the time incongruence with the crippled scientist character (was it Viktor?) where he just kind of dropped into the plot line and they told his backstory in a slightly confusing way. It was disjointed for a character that ended up being pretty important. So I think that was another of the “time jumps” that I think was a bit too drastic
Gosh, I make it sound like I didn’t like the show, but obviously I’m being nit-picky because I thought it was brilliant. 😄
And I’ll be interested to hear how you get along with Edgerunners and LD&R. I almost started Edgerunners myself, and just might do that soon as well.
Been awhile since I posted in here, but a couple of weeks ago I finished up Outlaw Star (Blu-Ray).
I've seen it twice before now, once as a kid on Toonami, then online somewhere over a decade ago. For whatever reason it has never managed to stick in my consciousness like my other big childhood/teenage anime (InuYasha, Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, Tenchi Muyo, etc.), however the one mental note that's stuck with me is that it's "awesome"...
Watching it all these years later on Blu-Ray I can confirm it is indeed awesome & I can't for the life of me understand why it hasn't stuck (with me). I absolutely love the spacefaring adventure vibe, killer music, awesome action, & more. Heck, I even really looked forward to those little lore dumps that kick-started each episode. I think it struggles a bit at the end in giving everyone something climactic to do (Aisha probably gets shafted the hardest with her "quick single clash against rando tornado guy" fight), but I ultimately think it manages to stick the landing.
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@Th3solution You're getting too old for this stuff I guess.
Ok, you whole boat things makes more sense when you put it that way. Like I said, it came off weird in the first episode, but that's because I missed/forgot about the reference.
Maybe I'll get some of the references at some point, as like I also said, I have watched all the movies at least twice. I'm sure I'll like it in the end.
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The early seasons of Always Sunny are only rough because they had a nonexistent budget to work with. Especially in the first season, I think they spent something like 400,000 for the entire season when even your most low budget of American tv shows still cost at least a million per episode.
Edit: Okay I was misremembering details, It was 400,000 per episode (the pilot was literally shot for nothing) but that is still less than a third the industry standard.
Think that series of Babylon Berlin was the best one yet. It’s just consistently one of the best shows on TV. I wish more people would give it a go, the fact it’s in German does tend to put people off, but I think Das Boot did pretty well so I’d assume there are at least a few people who don’t mind subtitles.
@PegasusActual93@QualityGeezer Babylon Berlin’s on Sky so we’ve been watching it through NowTV. Think it’s maybe funded by Sky Deutschland, I know Das Boot is for sure.
@QualityGeezer no mate I’ve never watched SoA, I hear it’s great but the 7(?) season commitment scares me a bit in term of investment! Although I did just do 6 seasons of Justified, which I enjoyed. Might give Sons a spin when I’m done with 1899 👍
I recently watched series 3 of Final Space on Netflix and was pretty underwhelmed.
It feels like ages since I watched the second series so it felt a bit disjointed from the get go. But the whole thing felt a bit all over the place and has moved a long way from the silliness of the original series.
Even more frustrating for it to end on a cliffhanger and then find out that there won’t be a fourth series
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