@zupertramp Yeah, I love both Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller-Bridge so it’s a must-watch for me. I can’t say I’ve ever wanted to watch the original though.
@JohnnyShoulder cheers for the heads up I'll definitely check them out! It was such a good show, definitely one of the best things Disney has done with the franchise along with Rogue One. I'm also one of those oft-derided people who quite liked the Last Jedi too 😅 (apart from the Super Leia flying through space scene which was pretty dumb!)
I think along with other people, I watched the Clone Wars movie and thought it sucked so I never gave the show a go. I've decided to go back and push through the movie and try and give the show a fair shake this time. Thought I'd watch phantom menace and attack of the clones first so I have some timeline grounding, I'm about 20 mins into attack of the clones now.
Fairly sure I'm really stretching things with this topic but technically it is on TV so...
Looking forward to Bubba Wallace's debut tomorrow with the backing of Micheal Jordan and Denny Hamlin as team owners. I know most of the modem world hardly considers a bunch of rednecks driving in circles racing but, I tell you, you go watch one of these races live and you realize two things - it's quite the experience and it's more diverse a crowd than you'd expect. Anyway just seems like NASCAR is very slowly making strides toward more inclusivity and it honestly warms my heart, cheesy as that sounds.
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@zupertramp My only experiences of NASCAR are the Pixar movie Cars and Daytona USA on Dreamcast. I would say it’s just cars driving in a circle but then that probably diminishes all the tactics and intricacies and stuff that go into it, a bit like how tennis is just two people hitting a ball back and forth. It’s nice to see NASCAR taking positive steps though, it always baffled me from an outsider seeing people singing the national anthem while waving confederate flags. Which to me would be a bit like singing ‘Come Out Ye Black and Tans’ while clad in a Union Jack three-piece suit.
@ralphdibny I’m honestly not a big Will Ferrell fan outside Elf and Old School so I haven’t seen that one. You did remind me that Days of Thunder exists though, which I have seen although I remember pretty much nothing about it.
@nessisonett@ralphdibny lol yeah Talladega Nights is mostly just Will Ferrell screaming, which I've gone on record in the movie thread kind of criticizing, but I'm not totally against him or anything and that movie does have its moments. Kinda like Step Brothers. Neither is beginning to end side splittingly funny but worth watching if you're bored and not looking for any intellectual stimulation whatsoever.
And I've actually never seen Days of Thunder. Keep meaning to but I get this feeling it's going to be extremely dated and corny. And filled with all the over-the-top male homoeroticism of Top Gun but without, well, whatever makes Top Gun so endlessly watchable. Hell maybe it is the eroticism.
Anyway just to bring it back around to TV, there's this made-for-TV movie, I think by ESPN films, where Barry Pepper plays Dale Earnhardt Sr. and honestly it's not too bad for a TV movie that's 15+ years old. Think it's called 3: The Dale Earnhardt Story.
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@nessisonett@zupertramp ah I love Talladega Nights, it's definitely one of the funnier of the middle tier will ferrel films! Anchorman is obviously the top tier so you have some sense of my scale lol. I know it can be a bit marmite though so it's not everyone's cup of tea
I empathise with not being a will ferrel fan, especially as a decades worth of comedy films either starred him or was some off shoot with similarly humoured actors! Luckily I love most of those films so it was a funny decade for me
@JohnnyShoulder haha, I quite like anchorman 2 as well despite it being critically panned. Doby the shark had me creasing up
I remember not really understanding the first film when I initially watched it, I don't think I really found it funny until I watched it again a few years after it came out and I literally thought it was one of the funniest films I've ever seen
Seeing as the TV thread has become about Will Ferrell films I'll just add I love Anchorman (My GTA Online crew is the Los Santos News Team), it's one of my favourite comedies. I think it helps the rest of the cast are excellent. I think The Campaign is his next best and The Other Guys, Step Brothers and Talladega Nights are all fun. It's a very absurd style of comedy but it works for me. Not all his stuff is good but that's true of any comedic actor.
WandaVision gets better with every episode for me. I'm glad I stuck with it. I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that the coming episodes are going to increase to the hour length too. I bet Disney is going to space out each of it's new series so that something starts just as one finishes to keep you subbed. It will probably work on me. @ralphdibny@RogerRoger yeah I love the Mando theme tune. I find myself randomly humming sometimes. One of the making of episodes is all about Ludwig Göransson coming up with it so I would recommend it if you haven't already seen it.
@RogerRoger those tracks you've posted are really good! I definitely need to get a download of it at some point, it's a shame there isn't a CD release to listen to in the car. I'll be honest and say, apart from the theme tune I wouldn't be able to recognise the rest of the music in the show but I think that is a testament to how good it is. If you are watching something and not thinking about the effects, the music and all of the things that make up the whole - then all of those things are doing their job properly and keeping you fully immersed.
I think when some of the more traditionally instrumented parts come in, they definitely sound unabashedly Star Wars. I've even heard parts of it that sound a bit like Giachino's Star Trek score.
I've only watched the Clone Wars movie so far (if that's what you are referring to) and I have to say the music sounds way more out of place in that film than it does in the Mandalorian. I wouldn't say it was particularly good or bad. I really do give it the benefit of the doubt however as I know it was supposed to be on TV until Lord Lucas decided last minute to get it ready for theatrical release.
I actually think I may have fallen asleep when I saw it in the cinema because I don't remember any of it. I don't remember Ahsoka and Ventress being in it at all. It's still a bit of a meh film, I don't really like the animation style and Yoda speaks too fast but I am going to push through and watch the highly praised show. I always knew it would be a hard sell to begin with the movie anyway.
On a positive note, i was actually really glad to watch the phantom menace and attack of the clones first. I really love both of those movies (especially Phantom Menace). I just love the duel of the fates theme as well. Though every time Mace Windu comes up, I just can't get Dave Chappelle's Jedi Sex Scandal sketch out of my mind where he plays "Mace Windau" as if he was Jules from pulp fiction and also Yoda as a perverted drug abuser 😂
@BearsEatBeets I certainly think Falcon and Winter Soldier will be out a few weeks after WandaVision finishes. I'm thinking of keeping my sub going at £6 a month, it is the cheapest of all the services. Maybe I'll keep it going for an extra 2 months until the end of Falcon/winter Soldier while I watch whatever else is on there and cancel it until the next marvel show comes out which I think is going to be Autumn/Winter this year
Just to those people who are completely up to date with WandaVision (episode 6), I have a question:
How would you feel if they integrated the current X-Men cast into the MCU? With or without the baggage of continuity. I think the current team of Cyclops, Jean Gray, Nightcrawler, Beast and Quicksilver is quite well cast. I think Fassbender would be great to keep and Macavoy is good but it's clear from interviews that X Men is just a pay cheque for him so I wouldn't be as fussed if he didn't come back.
to be honest, I have no great hopes either way. I suspect that whoever our "new" Quicksilver is in WandaVision will probably end up being some random dude rather than Quicksilver from the X-Men films. I'd really like them to acknowledge the X men universe as an alternate reality if they chose to go in this direction, but I don't have great confidence that they will. Our quicksilver could end up being another Mandarin
to answer my own question, I'd probably be ok with them keeping a similar cast if they introduced the X men into the MCU. At the very least I'd keep the current Cyclops, Jean Gray, Quicksilver and Magneto. I'm on the fence about Xavier, Beast and Nightcrawler. I'd recast everybody else including Wolverine. I'd also probably drop the whole (or parts of the) continuity and start fresh with them. I think it's been stated that Deadpool will be integrated as is but of course that is still speculation! I'm not too fussed about Deadpool, I love the character but I dislike Ryan Reynolds. I didn't think much of Deadpool 1 but I actually really liked Deadpool 2 and I am beginning to warm to Reynolds as Deadpool.
also I've brushed up and watched a few clips of our "new" Quicksilver from his time in the X men films and it's clearly he is massively overpowered in comparison to the Age of Ultron Quicksilver. I really don't think he would have been gunned down in that film if he had the same power level as he does in X Men. I wonder if a less powerful Quicksilver played by Evans would be as much fun, after all his slowed down time sequences are some of the highlights of the later X men films
Normally I don't like to even have these speculative conversations because until that episode or film is on the screen, you just don't know. Marketing lies a lot so I never take anything as gospel until I see it with my own two eyes. But discounting any impossible precognitive powers people might have, I am genuinely interested to see what people might think of the scenario suggested above and to what extent they would like to see any of it happen. Remember to spoiler tag!
@nessisonett lol I hope so too unless Mephisto has taken the form of Evan Peters because he is aware of the X-Men Universe. I kind of hope it's just not going to be a throw away casting for the sake of it. Like it would be too much outside the realm of the show for Mephisto's Quicksilver to just happen to look like the X Men Quicksilver without Mephisto having any knowledge of that timeline. There's gotta be a reason for him taking that particular face. Having said that, if your theory is correct then I suspect there won't be any on screen clarification of where Mephisto got the face from, in this particular series anyway. They may save the reveal (if there is one) for a future movie. So having said that, if the X Men did exist in the MCU or an alternate timeline, how much of the cast and continuity would you keep? If any?
I'm still clinging onto the belief that Mephisto isn't actually in the show and the one who's probably pulling the strings on everything is actually Agnes since I have a feeling they're going the direction of setting her up as Agatha Harkness. She's one of the very few characters who seems to be fully aware of her surroundings and even breaks character temporarily in Episode 5 in the style of an on-set outtake. I can honestly see Mephisto himself showing up in Spider-Man 3. With Doctor Strange being in the film and it tying directly to Multiverse of Madness it sounds like they might be taking partial inspiration from that infamous Spider-Man storyline "One More Day" where Peter makes a deal with Mephisto and undoes his marriage to MJ in exchange for saving Aunt May's life, except this time it'll be to undo his identity reveal at the end of FFH.
@ralphdibnyI wouldn’t keep any of them to be honest. The reason Evan Peters is Quicksilver is because the sitcom was set in the 80s when he arrived which is when that Quicksilver would be around. So if the X-Men were in modern day then they would be a very different team. I honestly think Beast and Quicksilver were the only ones that were any good anyway, Sophie Turner is a dreadful actress and Professor X/Magneto were phoning it in after the first couple of movies.
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