Topic: The Movie Thread

For whatever reason YouTube has been recommending me clips of an early 90's live action/animation mash up film called Cool World, which I don't think I've heard of before (maybe a vague recollection).

After looking it up it's apparently regarded as pretty terrible (apparently the director wanted it to be an R rated horror flick involving cartoons, while the studio rewrote the script behind his back as they wanted to piggyback off of the success of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?. They hacked up the edgiest bits of the film, but didn't do a good job patching it up, so it apparently feels unfinished, while still being too adult for a family film), but despite all that I'm actually interested in checking it out one day.

@LN78 Cool, cheers for the heads up! Think I have them both on blu ray, but both are ones i can watch repeatedly without ever getting bored of them.

I would love a Time Bandits 4k release, another film that falls into that category.

@LN78 I think i heard a similar thing happened with John Carpenter’s The Fog and Escape From New York, with the former being not a high quality transfer compared to the latter.

That Mulan’s coming onto Disney+ for free in a couple of months. What’s the point of paying for it now if it’s gonna be free by the end of the year?

@LN78 You can stream and download it as long as you’re a subscriber. So basically the exact same as if it was free on the service. It’s £20.

@LN78 Looks like it. Makes very little sense unless you just can’t wait to watch a remake of a movie that’s on there for free. Have to admit, I was looking forward to it until I actually read about the main star.

@RogerRoger Yep, it was blindingly obvious that Finn was meant to be a bigger part of the story. Poe was also sidelined and the whole Rose situation was a bloody shame. Now I hope this doesn’t end up making ‘fans’ hate on Daisy Ridley, which it inevitably will, as it was more that they shoehorned Kylo Ren into the main male lead role. It was a travesty from Episode 8 onwards.

@RogerRoger The idea of a random Stormtrooper making the decision to turn traitor and eventually become a Jedi and be the one who ultimately defeats the Empire is a much better story than ‘magic outsider and emo kid’ that we ended up with. Don’t even get me started on the terrible twist of Rey’s parentage urghhhh 😂😂

@LN78 He’s one of the few to actually speak out about Disney. You just have to look at Falcon and War Machine to see their attitudes towards black characters being ‘sidekicks’. Black Panther was a big step forward but Star Wars seemingly decided to plow ahead. I reckon he’s saying that about Rey because he knows that the fans would go after her first, it’s Star Wars fans after all.

@RogerRoger Yep, POC directors and actors can’t survive 2 flops but Disney’s franchises absolutely could. We joke about Toby Kebbell but would he really be given all these roles in big budget movies that eventually flop if he was black? Same goes for Taylor Kitsch with Wolverine, Battleship and John Carter.

@RogerRoger I'd consider figures like Eddie Murphy, Tracy Morgan, Chris Rock, Kevin Hart, Jordan Peele, Will Smith, Michael B. Jordan and Chadwick Boseman pretty up there

John David Washington is also definitely a rising star thanks to Black KKKlansman and Tenet

@LN78 Pacino, De Niro, Jeremy Irons, Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Michael Caine, Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Hopkins, Gary Oldman, Dustin Hoffman, Sean Penn, George Clooney, Russell Crowe, Ralph Fiennes, the list goes on. The number of white actors who could carry a movie and get it greenlit based on their fame alone massively outweighs the number of POC actors. And this is just male actors. It’s due to many factors but you’ll find in 50 years that the elder statesmen of that generation are a bit more diverse because if you think about when these actors were coming through, things were a whole lot harder for POC in the industry. It’s not ‘nonsense’ by any stretch of the matter.

@LN78 You hear all the time about actors having passion projects that they work on for years. Most POC actors don’t have that luxury. This is not the hill to die on, it’s just plain obvious that there is a massive racial bias from studios when it comes to giving directors and actors creative license based on their fame.

I have to say I’m really not fussed about Black Widow. Just looks utterly pointless which I’ve never felt with the Marvel movies. Doesn’t help that I’m not particularly fond of any of the cast outside O.T. Fagbenle and I could pretty much guess the plot right here. Shame about Battinson getting COVID though, that’ll shut down production for quite a while but he’s a fit guy, he should pull through.

@nessisonett What?! Scarlett Johannson, Florence Pugh and Rachel Weisz alone makes BW a top tier Marvel cast. Admittedly, Scarlett as Black Widow hasn't been exactly exceptional, but she's definitely shown in other projects that she's a great performer. Florence Pugh in Midsommar and Lady Macbeth was incredible, and so was Rachel Weisz in The Favourite and The Lobster. I'll concede that i'm not particularly fond of the Marvel movies generally speaking, and they only really interest me once someone I like is in them (Brie Larson as Captain Marvel for example), but this cast is undeniably impressive!

@Tjuz ScarJo is pretty dire as Black Widow and I’m just not a fan of Florence Pugh, I’ve seen her in a few things and not a fan. I do like Rachel Weiss though, I forgot she was in it as totally not bad person.

Eeeek, apparently Robert Pattinson has caught covid 19 whilst on the production of The Batman.

@JohnnyShoulder Yep, saw that one. Not good at all.

@LN78 You polish a turd, you get sh*tty hands 😉

@LN78 It’s amazing how many people who are paid in the millions end up bankrupt. Easy for me to judge over here on the poor side of the fence, relatively speaking, but I’ve always wondered how that happens.

Interesting backstory about GF3’s production, nonetheless!