@Th3solution There is no order for the films pre-Flashpoint Paradox. However, that film resets the timeline to form a shared universe of animated films that lasted from that film and ended recently with Justice League Dark: Apokolips War
So for the pre-2013 animated movies, there is no particular order at all. They all take place in seperate continuities. However, after Flashpoint Paradox the order goes
Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox (2013)
Justice League: War (2014)
Son of Batman (2014)
Justice League: Throne of Atlantis (2015)
Batman vs. Robin (2015)
Batman: Bad Blood (2016)
Justice League vs. Teen Titans (2016)
Justice League Dark (2017)
Teen Titans: The Judas Contract (2017)
Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay (2018)
The Death of Superman (2018)
The Reign of the Supermen (2019)
Batman: Hush (2019)
Wonder Woman: Bloodlines (2019)
Justice League Dark: Apokolips War (2020)
There's also outlying stuff that was released during this time based on Elseworlds stories like Batman: Gotham by Gaslight but those aren't part of the shared animated universe
Even if this cut ends up being 100% better or 10% better than the theatrical version, I've gotta give WB props for actually making this happen in the first place. I'm glad the few people who actually liked Snyder's DC films are getting a proper sense of resolution with his vision for the former DCEU
Just to add to that earlier Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom discussion. I always get a bit disappointed when I watch it on TV, and see that the heart grab has been cut out.
@TheFrenchiestFry@Ralizah 4 hours hahahaha! I’m gonna give it a watch, I’m optimistic because Zach Snyder could do wonders without studios breathing down his neck and a big budget. If anything, it’ll be more fun than the corporate entity that was Justice League. That’ll be the longest new movie I’ve seen in a while though, the longest I’ve seen ever is Shoah, a holocaust documentary that’s over 10 hours and really can’t be watched in one sitting for multiple reasons.
Finished up my Jack Ryan binge with Clear and Present Danger and The Sum of All Fears. The former felt like a Lethal Weapon sequel, take the heart out of the script, add some vaguely racially stereotyped baddies and make the leads really sweaty. Willem Dafoe was cool though in commando mode. The slow-mo looks hilarious, the music is bad and I really couldn’t get over the dodgily handled plot about essentially invading Columbia for the sole purpose of killing a cartel while making offhand remarks about how the government there is non-existent and they won’t even notice. The whole name-dropping the phrase ‘clear and present danger’ 10 seconds into the movie was hilarious too, reminded me of the opening of Mass Effect. Overall, this one doesn’t particularly age well when compared to the previous movie about IRA members, funnily enough.
The Sum of All Fears was my favourite of the whole lot, it finally nailed Jack Ryan with Ben Affleck in the role, who perfectly inhabits the role of ‘analyst who could probably hold his own in a fight if forced’. For a film not even a year after 9/11, it was pretty bold to feature a nuclear attack on US soil perpetuated by neo-Nazis and I’m surprised that was even included. It was tense, twisty, turny fun and tied everything up really well. Liev Schreiber was fantastic as (confusingly) Willem Dafoe’s character from the previous movie who now meets a younger Ryan for the first time. Continuity who? If I had to rank them after having a real think, I’d say:
The Sum of All Fears
Patriot Games
The Hunt for Red October
Clear and Present Danger
@TheFrenchiestFry It looks incredible. I haven’t been this hyped for a superhero movie in years and I’m not even a huge Batman nerd. I love the gothic take on Gotham and I have to say it’s very cool that I recognise so many parts of it from Glasgow since I saw the crew when I was going to and from uni. Riddler totally suits the detective take and Paul Dano is a wonderful actor who should be perfect for the role. The Battinson voice is as good as Keaton’s, not hammy af like Bale’s but still gravelly. The one glimpse of action looked weighty and realistic while having that distinct comic book feel and sound. I’m totally digging that gothic rock remix of Something’s In the Way by Nirvana as well, watching The Lost Boys last night cemented my belief that a Batman movie with an 80s goth aesthetic would be a dream. We got parts of that in the trailer! All aboard the hype train 😂
@LN78 I still maintain that there are redeemable elements of the Schumacher movies although yeah, they’re extremely hokey and plain silly at times. I totally got The Crow vibes as well. Like I said, 80s goth aesthetic + Batman is basically a dream come true. Also pretty fitting considering goth subculture was born in the Batcave club.
I've only just got around to watching The Batman trailer and I'm impressed. The tone looks great and I'm digging the potential lean into his detective chops. Also thought it good that they finally didn't try to hide the fact he wears eye-shadow. Not too keen on the Batmobile design but get they are going for just a regular car souped up and it fits with the early Batman vibe. It will be interesting to see if they can make some quality fight scenes. None of the films have adequately portrayed a martial arts master yet although often this has been restricted by the design of the suits. (The warehouse scene in BvS is closest yet but it's the only good bit of that film). The design of this suit especially without a stiff neck should help. Overall I'm eager to see how it pans out.
@LN78 It would be pretty amazing if both movies tie into each other, but at the same time i am getting a bit sick of all the connected universe stuff and would be good if this was its own thing.
Just looking at the cast - I like it. Hopefully Andy Serkis doesn't ham it up too much as Alfred.
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@LN78 Honestly Joker, even though it's cut from the same cloth in regards to being inspired by 70s thrillers, I think exists in its own self contained world because it's a distinct time period where there were no such things as costumed heroes or high tech vehicles and gadgets of any kind, which gives it that uniquely raw feel of it just being the comic book movie equivalent of an art house piece
They probably purposely set it against the backdrop of Gotham City in 1981 to establish from the get go that it was going to be its own self contained thing like the live action equivalent of a one off Elseworlds story
@LN78 I honestly think he would fit right into that universe. The beauty of the multiverse is that his Joker doesn’t even need to necessarily be the one from that movie, he could just be playing the Joker of Battinson’s universe.
One other thing I think is noteworthy is that I flat out did not expect them to go the Hush route with Riddler, with the buttoned up jacket and the taped up face
Hush would actually work super well within this grounded universe where all of the rogues gallery are just starting out. Digging the early Catwoman outfit and I like the fact that supposedly Oswald Cobblepot doesn't actually like being called the Penguin yet and he's just a mob leader
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