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DonJorginho

@WanderingBullet There is a near 4 and a half hour cut of the film which was originally intended to release before Tarantino decided to cut a lot.

The actor who played Charles Manson in the film said he has around 35 minutes of scenes with him in it where even Tarantino described as some of the best dialogue in film.

Quentin teased it the other day, saying well if the head of Sony film liked it then I think my fans would, and he said I think it will release at some point this year maybe yes.

DonJorginho

DonJorginho

@WanderingBullet I know Uncut Gems is coming to Netflix at the end of the month, that was a great film and I can't wait to see it again in the comfort of my own bedroom

DonJorginho

Th3solution

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“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

KALofKRYPTON

@Th3solution
Don't worry, I feel like I know the script at this point!

Your thoughts on the film really do tally with what most people I know who've seen it have said. The critical response has been interesting (as has the financial take), though not massively polarising.

It's very JJ in most ways - but it does seem like this really isn't his preferred cut!

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KALofKRYPTON

@LN78
The widely reported and corroborated (by JJ himself) info' on the cut of the film, was that the film was still being edited at the end of October. A lot was shot, Lucas did work with JJ on the film, most if not all of his contributions aren't in the final cut. Matt Smith was cut etc.

Regarding the Financial results; 'Poor' opening weekend - lower than TLJ I think (and the predicted opening was revised down several times in the run up to release) and an 81% plunge by the third week. In realistic terms of reasonable people, it has and still will make lots of money. Up to a billion (worldwide) by the weekend probably. But it's looking unlikely to see the Endgame near $2.8 - and the merchandising doesn't seem to be faring particularly well either - toys especially.

Added to that the online clamour for some sort of Director's Cut, the 'end' of Star Wars is very likely a financial disappointment for Disney.

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WanderingBullet

@DonJorginho Thanks. I've just checked and it looks like Uncut Gems will be available here at the end of the month as well.

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger Do not be surprised when Disney get on board with a Director's Cut for the Blu-Ray. It probably won't restore much from abandoned cuts - but I wouldn't rule out seeing the force ghost footage and a re-jig to the exposition and pacing.

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger Want to buy some first release prequel DVDs? Huh? Huh? ;-p

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@LN78 @RogerRoger
I think to footage thing will go one way or the other. They'll let JJ re-cut the film to a limited degree and release it - or not. And the 'not' part will cover the rest of the films too.

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger Thanks, and yeah, that’s an interesting observation about the large number of new plot-influencing characters.
I did feel like there was an excessive amount of deus ex machina that detracted from the validity of the plot; I see now that this opinion is further supported by your quantification of having so many new random (albeit cute, stylish, or nostalgic) characters drop in miraculously from the sky to save the protagonists and pull them out of the various corners that the writers had painted them into.
So the new characters serve the purpose of being agents for progression of the plot to JJ’s desired end point ...as well as to sell toys, T-shirts, and lay groundwork for new shows 😄.
Regardless, I liked the creativity and variance of some of these creations, even if they were late to the party and, as you say, deserved to have much more time to be developed properly, rather than just popping in to save (or ruin, as the case may be) the day.

It’s why you’ll love The Mandalorian. The pace is so slow and methodical by comparison with a much more limited number of characters and they really to get that room to breath.

As far as Rise, I will be watching it again at some point - probably sooner rather than later. And historically I have enjoyed many movies better the second time. I think this will be one of those that will be better with a second viewing, since I won’t have to concentrate so much on following the disjointed journey and I can ponder some of the deeper threads introduced and just enjoy relishing in the good parts.

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Gremio108

The Sisters Brothers. Powerhouse performances from Joaquin Phoenix, John C Reilly, Riz Ahmed and Jake Gyllenhaal. I can't make my mind up about that ending though.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Gremio108 I've been wanting to see that for ages now ages now and it's just come on NOW TV, so will be giving it a watch soon.

A Simple Favour. All over the place, seems to shift genres every 10 mins and so wants to be Gone Girl or The Girl on the Train. But Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively are really compelling to watch and almost manage to make it better than those two films. Very dark humour to which i dig.

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MightyDemon82

1917 is definitely a film to see on the big screen my wife and I thought it was excellent.

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nessisonett

@Arugula I totally understand what you mean in the sense that I genuinely don't know if I liked Joker or not. I went to see it in 60mm at the local arthouse cinema and it was beautifully shot and Joaquin Phoenix was outstanding but the film just rubbed me up the wrong way. It felt like a great movie held back by Todd Phillips' direction. He's the one up for Best Director everywhere but let's be honest, Bohemian Rhapsody won Best Editing at the Oscars so awards mean nothing

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nessisonett

Watched Shazam last night and despite not really enjoying the DCEU movies other than thinking Wonder Woman was alright, I actually enjoyed it a lot. Didn’t take itself too seriously, poked fun at the rest of DC and was a good fun romp. A true popcorn movie and there’s nothing wrong with that when so many other blockbusters are trying to be more and falling short.

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DonJorginho

@Arugula Joker will probably get in my top ten but it won't be any further than 10 or 9, and that is due to the score, the acting from the legend that is Joaquin Phoenix and the cinematography and set design.

I thought aside from those areas the film was a very average watch, predictable story, heavy (perhaps too heavy) influences from Taxi Driver and King Of Comedy, terrible dialogue, and very one note attempts at sympathy for the characters.

For example it is sometimes so hard to sympathise with Arthur Fleck as it feels so by the books at times, with the way the sign hits Arthur over the head at the start of the film being a visual representation of how the film is hitting us the audience over the head that we should feel sorry for Arthur and how life is quite literally beating him down, if it wasn't for Joaquin Phoenix playing this role, the film would have fell flat on its face.

I think this film could have been something special if it was directed by someone with more talent and creative vision, aswell as had a better screenplay behind it.

However the factors I loved about the film redeem it's average qualities and allow me to give it a solid 7-7.5/10.

My favourite film this year has still been by far The Lighthouse, and would highly recommend.

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DonJorginho

DonJorginho

I AM DONE WITH THE OSCARS.

Greta Gerwig snubbed for best director
Willem Dafoe snubbed for best supporting actor
Uncut Gems or The Lighthouse snubbed for best picture
Adam Sandler snubbed for best actor

DonJorginho

nessisonett

@DonJorginho As long as Parasite and Bong Joon-ho get the plaudits they deserve, I’ll be happy. One of the best years in history for foreign cinema and I’m increasingly over the bias towards movies in English.

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Trans rights are human rights.

DonJorginho

@nessisonett I am so happy for Bong as he is a genius behind the camera, if he wins best picture, Joaquin best actor and Roger Deakins best cinematography I will be happy.

DonJorginho

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