Topic: The Movie Thread

@LN78 Could easily have been something done over the phone. Miller had meetings with a bunch of sci-fi writers early on to come up with ideas too.

As I say, Cameron doesn't care a jot about the IP. If he gets to make a bit of money from it, all the better.

@LN78

Found a bit more - the rights reverted back to Cameron after 35 years - it's still in the hands of Skydance by way of a license agreement.

So yes, Cameron does have a very vested interest in DF making a lot of money.

"I was kind of reluctant to come back into that world, but when I had the opportunity to recover the rights through the copyright law, I started thinking about it," Cameron admitted. "It's like, 'Well is there still something to say?' And when I met with David Ellison at Skydance, he said, 'Look, what I want to do is take it back to the basics. In a sense you can do the sequel to Terminator 2.' And I thought, 'Well that simplifies things.' The movie came from him; that was not my vision walking in the door."

@LN78 Yeah. He was married to the producer he sold the rights to initially and divorced her between T1 and T2.

Between Annapurna, Skydance and now Cameron - there will never be a shortage of people trying to squeeze cash from the brand. DF has probably done badly enough not to warrant the planned sequels as they'd hoped, but there'll be something.

@LN78 @KALofKRYPTON Interesting discussion, guys.

I'll never quite understand how creators whose names are so closely associated with classic, beloved films can stand to agree to associating those names with cheap knock-offs within the same franchise.

I'd forgotten the horrible way Alien 3 basically undid the entirety of the character/plot development in Aliens to justify another sequel. Unlike this, though, I still thought Alien 3 was, overall, a pretty decent film. Certainly the last one. Resurrection was awful. Prometheus was a disappointment. As was Covenant (aside from the hilariously homoerotic interactions between the two androids; put this flute in your mouth while 'I do the fingering' wink wink). Actually, that whole movie would have been improved if it had just been about the two Michael Fassbender androids making out the whole time.

@Th3solution It's the horror story of capitalism. Nothing is sacred in the light of profit. I'm telling you, once science figures out how to resurrect the dead, there are going to be chain-gangs of corpses working the local Walmart and McDonalds, as if the companies were run by powerful Haitian sorcerers.

@Ralizah Lol, that’s really dark, man. But you’re probably right. 😂

@LN78 We can only hope. I liked some of the ideas in 'Rise of the Machines', but it wasn't a good film; 'Salvation' was a solidly squandered opportunity to really dig in to the future war; less said about 'Genysis' the better - other than it's the basic soft reboot building blocks of Dark Fate.

@Ralizah Cash-money! Sadly, that's the answer most of the time.

I quite like Alien 3 - the Director's Cut version especially. Growing up, I was always taken with how different the Alien films were from one another, and while 3 certainly borrows heavily from the tone of Alien - the stylistic differences set it quite nicely apart.
Resurrection for the most part is never more than so much popcorn fodder - and the prequel films are just terrible, self-indulgent nonsense.

@LN78 Do we really want an ageing Arnie running round in next to nothing? I've said something similar a while back, they really need to stop running these titles into the ground. Very few of the recent ones are are any good and are just crapping over the 'legacy' of the originals.

In other news, the recent release of Midsommar for home viewing comes with a directors cut which extends the film to 177 minutes. Eeek.

Toy Story is probably best movie franchise for me. Enjoyed all four movies so far.

@LN78 Jeez, is that still going? I think the latest film has been released since that wast first heard about.

Probably gonna watch this later this month.

Looks like it could be a good movie.

Also, has anyone watched The Irishman, yet? Read that there's a limited theatrical release currently.

I watched The King on Netflix.

Very well produced and performed take on some of the life of Henry V. I've seen Timothee Chamolet's name around but not seen in anything that I recall. His performance was great, as was Joel Edgerton - whose Yorkshire accent is almost uncanny.

The show is very much stolen by Robert Pattinson though. His sneering Frenchman is absolutely on point. Initially there's something rather comical about his delivery as the Dauphin; I couldn't shake the feeling that I was watching Antoine de Caunes doing his best (vampire) Lestrade - soon enough, the genius of his performance shines through. It very quickly feels like an authentic delivery of English by someone who despises the language and the people who speak it.

Also somewhat of a show-stealer is the photography. I'm not certain as it could just be clever colour grading - but the outdoor scenes all feel as if they were shot with natural light (as was done with The Revenant), and it adds a beautiful realistic feel to scenes.

Anyway, great dialogue expertly delivered, authentic feeling production design and a wonderfully grim depiction (though on the small side and pretty inaccurate) of The Battle of Agincourt. Well worth a watch.

Second Bad Boys For Life trailer.

@WanderingBullet Ford Ferrari looks like it could be good.

Not feeling Bad Boys at all. But then, I thought the second one was pretty crap anyway.

Allow me me to signal my indignant rage!

Or at least, rolled eyes.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/wolverhampton/...

@KALofKRYPTON @WanderingBullet I see Bale has lost a load of weight again for that role. Always blows my mind when actors do stuff like that

@KALofKRYPTON I actually thought a lot of jokes in the Bad Boys 2 were quite funny. My problem with it was the story but that's usually the case with Michael Bay movies anyways. Another issue with his movies are racial stereotypes.

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, I haven't watched Vice, yet but I read that he gained 20 pounds for his role in that movie.

@WanderingBullet Vice is great!

Bad Boys 2, just - urgh. The new one looks like most recent 'sequel for the sake of cash' movies. Pointless and trying a bit too hard.

@KALofKRYPTON Was never a fan of the Bad Boy films, the bickering between the two stars always got on my nerves.

@JohnnyShoulder 13 year old me thought the first film was great. But it had that Shy Guy song being played everywhere you turned out and about and people at school loving it etc etc.

Not a film I've sought out to revisit, but it was fine at the time.