Topic: The Movie Thread

@RogerRoger yeah i think at least for me the Brosnan era was probably the best of the original Bond era (as Craig was a reboot i tend to keep them separate) and while Die Another Day really went overboard on the CGI (that surfing scene comes to mind) i still really enjoyed it and loved that they gave Bond a much bigger range to his character, plus his era had SO many great action moments, the Tank Chase in Goldeney, the Parking lot scene in Tomorrow Never Dies, the Boat chase in The World is Not Enough of the cars on the ice lake in Die Another Day

and Brosnan was swath and sophisticated and even a bit charming plus he did the action scenes well

honestly he is probably my favourite Bond

@FullbringIchigo Dalton all the way. I think for me he is closer than Connery to Fleming's Bond.

@KALofKRYPTON Dalton was an awesome Bond, just a shame he only got 2 films

@RogerRoger @KALofKRYPTON the Caviar Factory bit was also really good, that poor BMW

if i was going to rank the Bond's it would be

Brosnan
Dalton
Connery
Craig
Moore
Lazenby

@FullbringIchigo @RogerRoger

I have to put:
Dalton/Moore
Brosnan
Connery
Craig
Lazenby

That's probably true of the majority of the film rankings too - with exceptions of course.

@KALofKRYPTON what's strange for me is i like Moores films but i always felt Moore was kind of bland in a lot of them, like he was just phoning it in which is why i put him so far down on the list

@FullbringIchigo I find Moore's Bond to be nicely cavalier. He's just enough smarm, arrogance, spite and flare to really sell the deep-down irredeemable paid killer playboy that Bond really is. He has the most 'lighthearted' films, but they are all brutally violent - and his Bond is brilliantly spiteful.

Also, he has Jaws. It's something missing from the similarly positioned Brosnan run - a recurring henchman! Stamper would've been perfect for it too.

It’s interesting to see the options on Craig’s Bond films. He’s personally my favorite Bond (also being the one I grew up with most of all), and I think Skyfall is actually the best Bond film hands down. It just elevated all of it to a new level. It had an amazing villain and a great take on a more human Bond. Specter was really good, but as good. The villain felt a little bit overdone too.

@KALofKRYPTON i liked Jaws

@Jaz007 the Craig films are good films too but i just rate other Bond's a bit higher, not the films but the Bond's themselves

Daniel Craig's have been all over the place. Casino Royale is easily his best film, and very much a top three Bond film overall. I liked Home Alone Skyfall a lot, but it did feel like a Bond film that was aping The Dark Knight and its "Edgy PG-13 Action-Blockbuster" approach. Quantum of Solace was, of course, a disaster. It didn't even feel like a Bond film. And Spectre... was okay, but very unmemorable. I'd actually forgotten it even existed, and that I'd gone to a theater to see it, until recently.

My biggest issue with his run is that, as with reboot Lara Croft, it doesn't feel like he's "growing into" the character we've come to know and love from previous films.

Daniel Craig's Bond is too moody, too self-serious. I still haven't seen Spectre, but of the other three my favourite is definitely Casino Royale. It's perhaps still my favourite Bond film. I would like future Bond films to maybe inject some of the fun back into proceedings. My mind is very foggy at the moment and I'm having trouble thinking, but I'd say each era has had it's own great film, be it From Russia With Love, The Spy Who Loved Me, or the Living Daylights. My favourite Bond is Pierce Brosnan.

Anyway, I watched A Star is Born earlier. Really rather impressed. Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper were both excellent - Cooper in particular. Well made across the board.

@mookysam @RogerRoger
Spectre is a mess.

Some nice set-pieces and stunt work stuffed in to a horribly contrived narrative. Added to that, opening with that meandering, mind-dulling Sam Smith record.... yawn.

@Kidfried It's an awful record, it really is. I don't mind the Radiohead one.

Since we've been ranking things - the quality of Craig's films are directly proportional with the quality of the theme songs!

1. Casino Royale - You Know My Name, Chris Cornell. Absolute banger!
2. Quantum of Solace - Another Way To Die, Jack White & Alicia Keys. Another fantastically crafted song, like the film, often dismissed - but significantly better than anything that followed.
3. Skyfall - Skyfall, Adelle. Boring return to the 'name of the film makes the song' form and easily the absolute worst of Adele's output.
4. Spectre - The Writing's on the Wall, Sam Smith. Sticking to his patented, inimitably banal style with grating falsetto as an added bonus - Smith managed to write the worst Bond song of all time to open a poorly laid out film that lazily exploits the now available Spectre moniker and wastes Bond's arch nemesis with gritty emotional baggage.

@Kidfried I really thought that Supremacy by Muse was going to be the Skyfall track!

@Kidfried I think they actually wrote Supremacy for Skyfall, could be wrong about that though.

There's quite an interesting history of 'songs that never made it' for Bond films. Ace of Base - GoldenEye, Alice Cooper - Man With The Golden Gun (I think), Jonny Cash - Thunderball, Pulp - Tommorow Never Dies. Those are a few I can recall of the top of my head. No doubt there are many others!

I'd have to say We Have All The Time In The World takes it. Licence to Kill maybe second, the A View To A Kill third.

There's really only The Writing's on the Wall, Skyfall, and Die Another Day that I really don't like and are excluded from my Bond Theme playlist.

@KALofKRYPTON yeah they were some pretty "iffy" songs if you ask me

as for me i would say my top 3 were "Live and Let Die", "Goldeneye" and "The Man with the Golden Gun"

@RogerRoger Die Another Day is the epitome of boring trash music production! It's sounds like someone spent 10 minutes with FL studio after listening to their favourite bit of electroclash nonsense

That's OK, neither do most English people

@KALofKRYPTON @RogerRoger I'll get round to watching it when I can. It was on Now TV and then they had the nerve to take it off! Outrageous.

All this talk of Bond themes got me thinking about my favourite tunes. I may have listed them a while back when I watched the films. I can't say "Die Another Day" is a favourite. I am not a fan of Madonna's post Ray of Light material and feel that song is a tad over-produced with weak vocals.
"A View to a Kill" is a great '80's tune. I'm not too familiar with Duran Duran, but they kill it with that song. "Nobody Does it Better" is a classic and the Louis Armstrong "We Have All the Time in the World" is simply beautiful. Have to give a mention to "Goldeneye". The song is strange, but I love Tina Turner.

Not a Sam Smith fan so have to agree with the sentiments here regarding his Spectre song!

Dammit now I want to watch James Bond.