Take all the new Star Trek series’, for example. Personally, I don't think they hold a candle to the original shows, so I don't watch them. But does that make them objectively bad? No. It just means they aren't for me, and that’s perfectly fine.
At the end of the day, all entertainment—whether it's a video game, a TV show, or a film—is a product of its time. Unfortunately, there's a rapidly growing online echo chamber of people who just cannot accept that reality. Instead of moving on to something they actually like, they feel compelled to ruin everyone else's enjoyment simply because someone dares to disagree with them.
Coincidentally, I was talking to my brother about this exact issue at the end of last week. He summed it up perfectly: they're just a bunch of pretentious people who don’t get enough attention in real life, so they try to validate themselves by critiquing stuff without no valid justification and starting baseless arguments online.
"I have no problem with change, I understand it's a part of life. I just don't like to be there when it happens."
The NHL regular season starts 29th September 2026 until 10th April 2027. Good luck to the Oilers and the Blue Jackets because quite frankly. I’ve got a feeling you’re both going to need all the luck you can get.
@Treguard Spot on, and honestly, this happens just as much in TV and movies as it does in gaming.
I wonder for movies is it because of remakes, I was particularly harsh about the new Masters of The Universe but it was constructive criticism and went into the technical side of the industry, i.e. why to me it fell so flat. I'm not going to just drop a blanket of hate on something I haven't even experienced and even then I did touch on the positives like Trap-jaw and Man at Arms. It's still an opinion but with balance, the pros and cons as they say.
Take all the new Star Trek series’, for example. Personally, I don't think they hold a candle to the original shows, so I don't watch them. But does that make them objectively bad? No. It just means they aren't for me, and that’s perfectly fine.
Or you could look at like this. A newcomer watches the new show, finds they enjoy it and then decides to try the originals. Look at how I found Fist of The North Star, that movie wasn't original, the same for Crying Freeman, so many things really. I think things need those new additions in order to bring new eyes to a franchise, if not then it does eventually die off.
At the end of the day, all entertainment—whether it's a video game, a TV show, or a film—is a product of its time. Unfortunately, there's a rapidly growing online echo chamber of people who just cannot accept that reality.
You hit on why I watch older cinema and the Hallmark Channel. I'm not a product of your time, or of the nineties or even the eighties, much further back. I didn't have new media until recently, I haven't even seen the news networks in years so I have no idea what's happen unless someone I know is part of that news report. I don't think it's ignorance either, your world isn't mine and vice versa. I apply that to games too, Marathon isn't mine it's Northern_Munkey's so who am I to stick a foot in the door and judge something I have no experience with? The echo chamber part I don't understand, unless you mean they can't accept that something isn't 'bad' if it doesn't fit their needs/wants or demographic. To me it fits someone some where's and that's what matters, not that it doesn't fit mine. We were talking about that same psychology in the book thread yesterday. The looking at a horrific event in history and thinking 'I'm glad that wasn't me' instead of looking at then 'this happened to someone and it's terrible', it's the kind of wiring that allows a person to feel the pain of a paper-cut while not really acknowledging far greater pain suffered by someone else.
Instead of moving on to something they actually like, they feel compelled to ruin everyone else's enjoyment simply because someone dares to disagree with them.
That's the part I find really weird, it's wasted time and time isn't just money, it's time that could be spent doing the things you actually enjoy. It's hard to word but if my hand is in fire and it hurts, I know to remove it because it's not doing me any good, if I see something disturbing I look away because it's not doing me any good. Getting enjoyment out of ruining someone else's enjoyment/day is the illusion of progress or of satisfaction, it's compounding your own misery and all that does is allow a person to feel worse about their own situation. It's probably naivety or a lack of exposure to that norm but it just feels like such a waste of time arguing about something you don't like when you can use that same time to enjoy the things you do. Unless it's more complicated than that and people are in work doing it there and it's possible to use an App/site but they can't break-out a console and play that very game they do enjoy. I think everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's just a really weird part of what seems to be the internet experience. And if it's so widely accepted, that's even weirder.
Coincidentally, I was talking to my brother about this exact issue at the end of last week. He summed it up perfectly: they're just a bunch of pretentious people who don’t get enough attention in real life, so they try to validate themselves by critiquing stuff without no valid justification and starting baseless arguments online.
It's all really odd because for the longest time I thought gamers were the happiest people in any hobby, they get to frequently explore new worlds, be at the forefront of new technology, experience incredible story-telling, cinematics, perfectly composed scores/music, and there's literally something for everything. Then instead of embracing that diversity it's 'oh well I don't like this at all', so don't play it? I don't like Nickelback but that doesn't mean I'm going to pick apart every song/album and tell the people who do like them that they are wrong and here's why, I'd be too busy listening to someone I do like. You grew-up with the internet I assume? was it always like this or have people/society gotten more hard headed about what they do and don't like? is it a byproduct of giving people a daily voice like how social-media can be a kind of Speaker's Corner for anyone willing to use the site? then after having that early in life they are conditioned to think that the whole world needs to listen to their opinion even if it's laced in venom?
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Is your avatar picture Prompto from FF XV's dlc? Cause it's been bugging me all day and whilst reading your post, for some reason that popped into my head as the picture was staring me in the face.
Yes, good eye! I'd just completed my first playthrough of the Royal Edition and fell in love with all four of the lads, but it was Prompto who felt like he was written as a special gift for me. Apologies in advance, as I do tend to change my avatar more frequently than most, though!
Anyways, what's your favorite StarTrek movie or episode and why? and how did you find StarTrek to begin with. I'm pretty sure I told you that my start with StarWars was a Turkish knock-off with an evil space wizard.
You did mention that before, yes! Quite the introduction, although I do have a ton of respect for projects such as those. I intend no disrespect when I say this, but you can see that they're made by people who have dreams beyond their means, who are still determined to try and realise them regardless. Same goes for fan films. Full credit to all involved, especially when it looks like they had so much fun!
As for your question about my personal favourites, there's way too much to list, but thanks for asking all the same! We'll likely end up with a dedicated Star Trek topic before too long. Bloober Team's new survival horror game is due out next year, and Tjuz promised me a proper geek-out about it, so I'll restrain myself until then. I mentioned this in another reply yesterday, but I'm probably a bigger Trekkie than I am a Star Wars fan. Let's just say, it's been an integral part of my life and character for a very long time.
Here's hoping you find a few favourites of your own and again, if you have any questions, just ask!
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Nice! Some pretty great UK VHS cover art there. Street Fighter & Devil City instantly spring to mind. But ya, in the past couple of years I've been dipping in and out of 80's anime using RetroCrush and it's felt like a breath of fresh air after being pretty much locked in to so many shlocky B movies from the 80's, ala' Tubi, which is an absolute goldmine for the obscure if you're fine dealing with those awful corporate soul sucking 4 in one commercials which frequently interupt whatever you're watching. it's why I've practically given up on the service. It was a blast in my mid 30's up until 41-ish, but I can't do it anymore.
but back to Anime, Mega Zone 23(The early 2000's AVD Dub, which is not on your list) was pretty amazing and had quite an impact on me. Loved Fist of the North Star: The Movie, still haven't gotten around to watching BubbleGum Crisis, which is still in my Amazon cart, Devil City wasn't too shabby, Street Fighter II: The Animated movie is a total classic(The Chun-lee vs Vega Appartment fight is S-tier). I remember watching Golgo in my earlier 30's which was recommended from my cousins buddy and it was wild(The protaginists snake-like movements and fight choreography were pretty unsettling), I watched Applseed last year and really enjoyed that one too, it's been ages since I've rewatched the original Vampire hunter D, Akira & Ghost in the Shell though.
BTW, that picture you posted in a previous comment of your VHS copy of Bubble Gum Crash is the second OVA series, with Crisis being the first. Crash supposedly isn't anywhere near as good, but it's still a fun watch i hear, even if it's of lesser quality in terms of art direction, cinematography, animation, rehashing animation, it's OST and overall plot were a clear step behind. Crisis is supposedely in an entirely different league. It's now available on RetroCrush, and is free of adds as long as you're paying $5 for one month. But, I'd rather have uncompressed audio from the Blu-ray Collection and get the best possible experience period for this one in particular.
I've heard great things about Robot Carinival, absolutely loved Spirited Away(Favourite Ghibli movie), Project A-Ko is really good, Wicked City, which i think you'd love, is heavily inspired by Carpenters 'The Thing', Dragon Ball Z(Funimation dub from the late 90s/early 2000s) was like a total religious massively inspirational experience for me back in my teen years, Sailor Moon's DIC dub that premiered on YTV back in 95' was just magical for it's time. It was huge back in NA and the first Anime ever to finally break into the mainstream in NA, before DBZ and Pokemon took the world by storm.
Then you've got other 80's gems like Black Magic-M66, Cyber City Odeo 808, Dirty Pair: Project Eden, Gunbuster Series, Gundam Char's CounterAttack(etc). I don't usually dabble in modern anime, yet One Punch-Man is one of the rare few that i've heard meets the standards of the golden age of anime(which many consider 85 - 95), at least with the first season...And which Anime films have you seen from the photo you linked in your collection, aside from Crying Freeman? Oh! And I'm dying to See Venus Wars...Plan on scooping that one up on Blu-ray too. The soundtrack is incredible. Sigh, Anime from the mid to late 80's and early to mid 90's is truly a lost art that's never coming back.
Anyways! i still need to respond back to a handful of posts you sent my way from the last few weeks. I just haven't felt on it in the past month or so. My laptop broke, my Beyerdynamic headphones got scorched(Right side no longer has audio) and my LG 65" OLED now has burn-in. Beautiful. Anything on screen that's overlapped from the burn-in turns into a desaturated greenish tint. lol It's ruined. Resale value next to zero. lol Set back after set back, I have the worst luck!
@GirlVersusGame Social media, in my opinion, has eroded how others interact with one another. It’s given everyone a constant platform to voice their opinions, which can be a good thing, but I think it’s also made people far more accustomed to being heard without necessarily having to listen in return.
It also gives people a sort of shield to say things they probably wouldn’t have the nerve to say face-to-face. People can sit behind a computer or phone and say genuinely hurtful or malicious things, often without any immediate consequences or accountability. Things that, 10 or 15 years ago, might have been said directly to someone’s face and earned them a slap or at least some very real pushback; can now be typed from behind a screen with very little personal risk. I think that distance has changed the way people communicate and overall interact with each other.
@Werehog I actually played FF XV when it first came out in 2016. I remember enjoying it well enough at the time, but even then, it felt pretty rough around the edges. I did buy the DLC for it as well, but I never actually got around to going back and seeing what had changed or how much they’d improved things since launch. Sounds like the Royal Edition might be worth another look when I’ve cleared my backlog.
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The NHL regular season starts 29th September 2026 until 10th April 2027. Good luck to the Oilers and the Blue Jackets because quite frankly. I’ve got a feeling you’re both going to need all the luck you can get.
@Treguard
It's easy to toss insults and truly speak your mind when one is given the power to hide behind an avatar as some random anonymous thousands of miles away without any consequences or accountability, like you said. It's usually never representitive to how it would all translate or go down when being pitted face to face. People would happyily agree to disagree, just that yerning to be liked, while being performative and all smiles. Sh** talking still occurs on the daily with many people. The 'he said, she said' game. Gossiping hyena's that gain pleasure from judgement.
That's the brutality of SM, or even Internet forums. It just exposes just how many awful people there are out there. It wouldn't really be any different if SM & smart phones became a thing in the 80's & 90's. You'd get plenty of toxicity and vile comments.
Meanwhile, YouTube is mostly nothing but a cesspool of attention skeeing goober heads that have the attention span of a snail. lol They need to delete the upvote/downvote system and Content creator heart emoji system so there will be less incentive for commenters to shoot for one note hallow and shallow attention seaking replies. You take the time to write a response to somebodies comment, but a lot of the times they're just too lazy to reply back so they'll either ignore or just thumbs up your comment.
Plus, the vast majority of people commenting on YT are using a smart phone, which is a total barrier in and of it's self. That Small boxed in screen, combined with a cumbersome touch based key pad prevents actual conversations for most, compared to a laptop or desktop PC. I would love nothing more for the banning of Smart phones. It's already hard enough to have face to face interaction in person with plenty of people because they're constantly side tracked by their phones. It's like you have to pry them off their hands to get anything worthwhile in return. But back to SM. I hate how so many people think they can just take on the role as some podcaster, game or movie reviewer etc. The oversaturation of everything and everything has just depleted that level of appreciation compared to the limited yet higher quality of radio DJ's, movie reviewers(Think Siskel & Ebert) and Video game mag' reviews from GamePro, Nintendo Power, EGM(etc) back in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's.
Movie stars, especially the younger ones have lost their mystique. They're doing hundrends of podcasts, interviews, doing home tours, 'what's in my fridge', random home videos and out and abouts. Actors just feel like people now, rather than the mysterious presense and star quality they honed back in the day.
I miss the 2000 & early 2010 forum days. Now they feel almost like some niche underground grave yard burried beneath a grave yard. But at least it still feels like you're part of a community, unlike YouTube.
@WaveBoy I totally agree with all the points you’ve made. I was a member of a forum back around 2002, and most of the people there were genuinely nice, decent people. You’d get the odd ***** who would turn up, but they usually didn’t last very long — after a month or two of people simply not taking their crap, they’d either settle down or disappear.
And I'm honestly getting fed up with smartphones as well. When I walk to the library, I see so many people wandering along completely absorbed in their screens, tapping away without a care in the world and barely paying attention to what's happening around them. You can be walking perfectly normally and they'll still veer straight into your path because they're too busy looking at their phone — and somehow you're the one who gets the dirty look, as though you're supposed to apologise for being in their way! 😂 It’s ridiculous. It just seems like so many people are permanently glued to that little screen and completely oblivious to the world around them.
I think the problem nowadays is that every man and his dog seems to have a podcast, review channel, or some sort of platform on YouTube, and it can give people the impression that they’re automatically an authority on whatever subject they happen to be covering. There are some genuinely knowledgeable people out there, of course, but with such an enormous amount of content being produced, there are definitely diminishing returns when it comes to finding reliable, well-informed information.
"I have no problem with change, I understand it's a part of life. I just don't like to be there when it happens."
The NHL regular season starts 29th September 2026 until 10th April 2027. Good luck to the Oilers and the Blue Jackets because quite frankly. I’ve got a feeling you’re both going to need all the luck you can get.
@Werehog although I do have a ton of respect for projects such as those. I intend no disrespect when I say this, but you can see that they're made by people who have dreams beyond their means, who are still determined to try and realise them regardless.
You hit on something that a lot of people miss about low-budget/exploitation movies. I'll use StarWars as an example, the 'dreams' part that applies to the actor/talent and to the Director. With the actor they are shown the original movie, they admire the character and understand it's influence with Western audiences. The thought process then becomes 'I can be the Skywalker of my country' and the Director 'I can be the Lucas of my country'. They don't see it as ripping off the original, rather it's seen as bringing that same experience to their own country. But it gets more interesting there too because they adjust things to better suit their culture and customs. That's one of the draws for me, seeing the material being reinvented to tailor to a different audience. And seeing it done so cheaply, I like the real-life jank.
Bollywood is a perfect example. One of my favorite Bollywood knock-offs is Robocop, they can release and screen the movie (and have) but it's a very different culture so it's seen as more offensive, crass, loud and very Western. If you look at Bollywood as a whole you are talking about two-thousand movie releases each year (made by those Studios) Hollywood tops out at about five-hundred. Bollywood is huge so when there is a knock-off like that it goes far and makes good money. But again it's more complicated than that because budget is a factor too, there's one about to be released called Ramayana and it's budget is five-hundred million USD which makes it the biggest in India's history. Bollywood Robocop is technically Bangladeshi Robocop and while the original Robocop suit cost one-million USD to create this one cost more like ten USD. The score is so janky that they stole the score from StarWars, Police Academy and Robocop then layered them on-top of each other. For the action scenes they stole the clips from the movie, like the gun/leg/holster, it's just lifted and spliced shamelessly.
But there's dancing and that's what I'm there for. I've seen Bollywood everything from Batman to StarWars and they all dance and sing too. So when people are like 'hey kat have you watched the new Spiderman yet?' no because I'm watching Bangladeshi Robocop get his moves on.
That's Tollywood Batman, he too has the moves. Tollywood is for the Telugu language, widely spoken in the states of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana.
Then you have action, he's Bollywood Neo (The Matrix) and Terminator.
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I'll RSVP that one for now thank you.
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@WaveBoy Nice! Some pretty great UK VHS cover art there.
I think the first run was rentals and then they opened the collection for home-video. I could be wrong and they may have just bought the home-video tapes and decided to rent them. That did happen too, there were specific distributors/rules but most stores broke them especially for niches genres.
Street Fighter & Devil City instantly spring to mind.
Street Fight has KDFM 'Ultra' on it's trailer, when you watch the tapes it shows trailers. Monster/Demon City is one I'll watch, it caught my eye as did Wicked City, which I think also has a live-action movie.
It does, I found it. I might watch it, I already love the blue and red lighting, Control vibes.
But ya, in the past couple of years I've been dipping in and out of 80's anime using RetroCrush and it's felt like a breath of fresh air after being pretty much locked in to so many shlocky B movies from the 80's
I really don't know the live streaming services but for Netflix, Prime, Hbo, Hulu and I'm sure we have more, I just don't spend much or any time with them, scrolling a movie is a really odd concept to me. I've always just walked my aisles so to speak. I did consider a robot, Hugh Hefner had one in his home, it's hard to describe. It moved on a kind of rail and could pull each format with it's arm then place it in each machine. I'd never seen one before his. I do like the process of picking out a box myself so I doubt I'll ever allow Skynet to do it for me.
ala' Tubi, which is an absolute goldmine for the obscure if you're fine dealing with those awful corporate soul sucking 4 in one commercials which frequently interupt whatever you're watching.
I've seen the name mentioned by Seinfield on here, when he mentions watching a movie it's usually on Tubi, it does sound American or possibly Canadian. I'd seen no one else say the name, just you two.
but back to Anime, Mega Zone 23(The early 2000's AVD Dub, which is not on your list) was pretty amazing and had quite an impact on me.
Sorry what does AVD Dub mean?
Loved Fist of the North Star: The Movie,
The thing that got me with the Manga version was once I heard this song. I'd been watching it along, seeing all of the crazy violence, taking in the world and trying to follow what was even happening.
Then this song started up and wow, it felt so suited to the scene but I had no idea what they were even saying and still don't. Japanese Rock has a kind of cool that I don't hear anywhere else and they keep Classic Rock alive in a big way too, they obviously like their Glam Rock and have their Visual Kei.
Street Fighter II: The Animated movie is a total classic(The Chun-lee vs Vega Appartment fight is S-tier). I remember watching Golgo in my earlier 30's which was recommended from my cousins buddy and it was wild(The protaginists snake-like movements and fight choreography were pretty unsettling),
I did watch that Street Fighter and found it to be a much better entry-point to the series for me than the games, I can't play fighting games to save my life and watching the Mangas felt like I was experiencing everything I had missed, I liked following each character and finding out their pasts.
I watched Applseed last year and really enjoyed that one too, it's been ages since I've rewatched the original Vampire hunter D, Akira & Ghost in the Shell though.
I really like Vampyre Hunter D and have watched it on other formats too. I thought they handled the lore well, I liked the character themself and I think I tried a more recent one. I believe I have all of the original paper Mangas too, it was a set and meant being able to get to them in one easy collection.
BTW, that picture you posted in a previous comment of your VHS copy of Bubble Gum Crash is the second OVA series, with Crisis being the first.
What does OVA mean? I know OST is original soundtrack, I think I was drawn to the Bubblegum tapes because of those colours and that box-art, it looked very Cyberpunk and like the one I shared those colours popped too, those greens and that red just looked so good.
I've heard great things about Robot Carinival, absolutely loved Spirited Away(Favourite Ghibli movie),
I'll add Robot Carnival to the list, I've seen some Studio Ghibli. I have a friend on another network and sometimes we screen-share to watch movies together then talk about them as we watch. My favorite was The Cat Returns, it was recent and I've already seen maybe ten times, it's brilliant. Others I've seen would be My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Deliver Service (it too had a cat) and I think that's all, I have the collection but like everything it comes down to watching it. Which is a big part of why I multitask. I watch a movie while listening to music and play a game at the same time, it's sort of like splitting your focus into three and taking it all in at once, add exercise equipment and it's technically four, time is valuable.
Dragon Ball Z(Funimation dub from the late 90s/early 2000s) was like a total religious massively inspirational experience for me back in my teen years,
I've heard of that one, it's where the run from Area 51 originated I think, and I think it's Oram77's picture, at least I hope so because I do try to pick up on those little things on here.
Sailor Moon's DIC dub that premiered on YTV back in 95' was just magical for it's time. It was huge back in NA and the first Anime ever to finally break into the mainstream in NA, before DBZ and Pokemon took the world by storm.
That's one I've been meaning to try, do you know how and why Pokemon became so big? Literally everyone on this site knows it, I know of it but Palworld is my introduction to monster catching.
Then you've got other 80's gems like Black Magic-M66, Cyber City Odeo 808, Dirty Pair: Project Eden, Gunbuster Series, Gundam Char's CounterAttack(etc).
Cyber City Odeo 808 is why I started watching so many more tapes. It was in different parts/stories and after the first one I kept going. It was so slick, so smart and felt unconventional, and almost taboo. The profanity definitely did I've never swore in my life, it was so over the top and still is, also I'd never heard of androgyny before and one of the characters I was sure was female, they weren't. And of course there were the explosive collars, I can't talk about collars on here but it was fun to see, even if theirs had the added feature of a ticking time-bomb, it was to keep them inline because they were I suppose loose cannons.
The most recent version, 4K and Sixty FPS.
I don't usually dabble in modern anime, yet One Punch-Man is one of the rare few that i've heard meets the standards of the golden age of anime(which many consider 85 - 95)
Okay so here's the thing, I think I've been miss-labeling Anime. But only after talking to you and reading this post. I've seen five Animes, Angel Beats, Spice and Wolf (so good) Rozen Miaden, Lucky Star, Madoka Magika and that's it, unless Anime means all animation originating from Japan. With Manga Entertainment I thought that wasn't Anime. For it to be Anime I thought it meant a long series like Spice and Wolf that seemed to be on television first and then home formats. So then Studio Ghibli is technically Anime too? it was definitely lost in translation.
And which Anime films have you seen from the photo you linked in your collection
I've seen Fist of The North Star, both Street Fighters, perhaps three Crying Freemans (there are a lot) Vampyre Hunter D obviously, some others I know I've seen (not there) Perfect Blue which was a psychological thriller that the movie Black Swan absolutely ripped off, DevilMan (so many times) which could be a favorite. It too was so over the top, had crazy profanity, and somehow managed to feel slick and new while still feeling like I was reading Dante's Inferno. Others would be Akira (amazing) Ghost in The Shell (amazing) Ninja Scroll (it needs to be a game) I think I tried Gyver because I'd watched the live-action movie and really liked it. I think I tried A.D. Police, it may have been related to Odeo 808.
DevilMan also 4K, both this and Oedo 808 are very recent uploads.
Anyways! i still need to respond back to a handful of posts you sent my way from the last few weeks. I just haven't felt on it in the past month or so.
No rush, I was shooting off posts left and right because being in bed sick meant I had to do something mildly constructive, I kept this one deliberately short not to compound the previous ones.
My laptop broke, my Beyerdynamic headphones got scorched(Right side no longer has audio) and my LG 65" OLED now has burn-in. Beautiful.
Yikes, I've heard of burn-in but never had it, I use the built in pixel cleaning features and set my screens to turn off when they sense I'm not there. This newer generation of OLEDs are apparently better at preventing it but I run a couple of screens at once so there's that too. When I game there's usually three, obviously the console, then my virtual machine/laptops etc, and another for movies and things. There's no warranty or something that will replace it? It sounds like there needs to be.
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Hey just telling all of you that you are the good kind of people. I haven't been and won't be active here for quite a little while more. Life got turned upside down in all the wrong ways.
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Hope that things get turned right side up for you pretty soon. Or maybe that you jcan adapt and learn to manage the upside down.
Take your time. Take it easy.
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