@Thrillho cheers, no problem, it's not an easy thing to give advice on anyway! I'm glad cooler heads prevailed though as most of my workplace disagreements involve a lot of effin and blindin!
@RogerRoger cheers! Yep had a good sleep this morning followed by a woodland walk with my partner where I talked like a pirate (which probably means I was in a good mood but a little bored lol)
Well, I just decided to see what's new by going to the PS Store on my computer. It's so bad. Trying to browse is impossible. There's no way to look at new games past a small time frame, no way to sort games, nothing. I'm amazed they've still got this store up honestly.
CD Projekt is run by cowards, apparently. Why even agree to a host a game like this, which was always going to be a controversial move for Chinese nationalists, if you're just going to buckle at the first threats of reprisal?
I regret giving GOG my money for as long as I have.
@Ralizah The absolute gall of GOG stuns me. This is after years of the site’s Twitter making ‘jokes’ about trans people, making MeToo ‘jokes’, their PR was even run by a guy with ties to GamerGate! They’ve spent a good long while espousing the whole ‘anti-PC gone mad’ attitude and yet they’re perfectly OK with pulling a game because the CCP told them to? They’ll defend Ion Fury amidst that game’s multiple controversies but not Devotion despite them both having patched out language that offended somebody? I wonder what the difference is between those two situations, one involving the use of the word ‘fagbag’ with the devs running an outright bigoted Discord and the other involving a Winnie The Pooh reference about a world leader? The real kick in the teeth is that the WHOLE SCHTICK of GOG is ‘we offer full DRM-free downloads to avoid delistings and the like’ and they’ve cancelled the game’s release before it came out! I hope more devs follow the SkateBIRD devs’ lead and pull their games. Good riddance.
@nessisonett I'm not even giving them the benefit of the doubt in that regard: it was probably bots and outrage on Weibo that scared them. This was just SUCH a dumb move. Literally two seconds of research into Devotion will tell you that any company who picks it up for distribution is going to be bullied by Chinese nationalists for it. Picking this game up would require both moral clarity and a stiff backbone, neither of which are possessed by the suits heading this company.
Did, like, one guy make this deal without consulting the rest of the company first?
Anyway, I do hope more developers pull their games as well. All that "pro-consumer" posturing and edgelord marketing for their games and they wet themselves at the merest whiff of controversy over a game totally undeserving of the poor treatment it has received.
@nessisonett Wow! Yeah, they're betting hard on that Chinese market. No wonder they capitulated so quickly. Although that still doesn't explain why the arrangement was ever made in the first place.
I'll admit I almost did a spit-take when I read: "CDPR has a good reputation in China as a competent developer that takes the time to create masterpiece titles." They might want to delay that launch as far into the future as possible.
As to posting tweets? Just click directly on the tweet you want to share and then paste the link, like so:
Wow the GOG-Devotion controversy has even spread here. Well I'll owe up to the fact that I bought 5 games on GOG yesterday because they were on sale there but weren't so on Steam, and since I'm a Chinese chick... OK I guess I'll say no more.
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@Draco_V_Ecliptic I think CDPR have completely sunk their company. It’s the higher ups too, not the average worker who’s been crunched for months and for what? To get the brunt of the blame for the game not being finished? It’s the execs who wanted the game out early that are the problem, and in fact it’s a wide issue with the industry, where people want games as soon as possible while being polished. Devs need to announce their games when they’re at least ready. And Sony were perfectly within their rights, CDPR made them the bad guys if Sony’s refund policy didn’t match CDPR’s promise of full refunds. Just nonsense from start to finish, this whole situation.
Yeah, Cyberpunk has had a rough go since it was released. My concern goes to the devs, who've been subject to crunch for a long while and now have to keep working just to get the game properly working on consoles.
I know crunch has been a problem for a long time now, well over a decade, but it's ridiculous at this point.
"We don't get to choose how we start in this life. Real 'greatness' is what you do with the hand you're dealt." -Victor Sullivan "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." -Solid Snake
I am sure CDPR will be just fine if they fix the game. This game is not their only source of income. IF (big IF) they fix Cyberpunk they will restore some reputation.
@ralphdibny What game(s) have you been playing recently? Mainly GoW, I take it?
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@Draco_V_Ecliptic yep I'm half way through the God of War series, before that I finished off the Gears of War series with Tactics (though I have to return to it for new Gears 5 campaign DLC). Then before that Spyro 2, Doom 16 and I replayed (and played the last 3/4 for the first time) all the splinter cell games. I posted a pic of a list from all the games I've played since lockdown 1 in the "Games You recently beat" thread, and now I've started page 2 of that list! What have you been playing lately??
@ralphdibny Bound By Flame, Assassin's Creed: Origins and Dark Souls III with a Kratos build.
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@Thrillho After playing 9 Assassin’s Creed games in 3 months, that video is absolutely accurate. NPCs will spot you because you got a bit too close but won’t notice the massive trail of destruction you’ve left behind you.
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