@nessisonett Since I just have a vanilla PS4 I probably just don’t have the experience to know the difference; When I played Bloodborne I never thought that the frame rate stood out. I know part of it has to do with what a person is used to, so any variability will be more obvious when it dips. But I’d be lying if I said that the game I was playing dropped to “X” FPS. All I would be able to say is that it drops. I suppose the size of the screen might make frame rate more obvious...maybe? I’m playing on a 43 inch.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution I’m a 40 inch but yeah I think you’ll be a stable 30 FPS in God of War. Stable frame rates are typically ‘better’ even if it’s 30FPS compared to frame drops all over the shop even if it’s at a higher average. Bloodborne looks worse than it actually is due to the way it handles frames. In a normal game, the frame rate is tied to your TV so it’ll in a sense, ‘paint the screen’ every time your TV refreshes what’s on screen at any one time. In Bloodborne, it just sends frames to the TV when they’re ready, not synched to any sort of timing. That’s why people talk about its bad ‘frame pacing’ as it can look juddery at times. 60FPS is one of those things that just feels so much better but 30FPS isn’t unplayable as long as its stable. It’s unrealistic to expect 60FPS in every game especially on console so I’d just rather that games remained at a stable refresh rate than fluctuated wildly.
@Th3solution I'm with you in that it's not something I notice nor something I feel strongly about either (probably because I don't know any better).
Maybe it's because I'm still on a base PS4 on an "older" (6 or 7 year) TV.
The jump from my stupidly small old telly to my dinky HDTV in the PS3 era was quite the step up. I was playing a lot of NHL whatever-year at the time and suddenly seeing the reflection of players in the ice and beads of sweat on their face in close ups was pretty amazing.
@DerMeister When the levels aren't infuriating it is an enjoyable game. I'll still attempt to platinum it, but yeah, it becomes rage inducing at points.
@Th3solution I'm pretty much the same and only notice when there are sudden dips. The screen will stutter briefly in the worst instances. In Bloodborne there were only a few areas I noticed it on, when you first enter Old Yarnham for instance. But most of those would have been patched by the time you played it.
It is more how the game feels to play than a visual thing most of the time, and more noticeable in FPS games. But it definitely was noticeable in Demon's Souls as the combat and movement felt a lot smoother than inwas used from other Souls games. And when I switched from Performance mode to Cinematic mode (which is 30fps) it actually made me feel a bit queasy. And I can't remember the last time that happened, outside of having a hangover lol.
And no, I don't get how people can tell when a game has dropped a certain number of frames. Unless you have some kind of specialised equipment that monitors it, like Digital Foundry do, I don't think you can.
@Thrillho@JohnnyShoulder Good to know I’m not the only one. I have heard that about once you go 60 fps you never go back. But I don’t guess too many of the PS4 games I play are 60 fps, I don’t know. I typically play 3rd person action-stealth, or narrative driven types so they’re not likely to be pushing the frame rate. But I did play DOOM recently and I thought it felt very smooth overall.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@JohnnyShoulder Yeah I saw that and it seems like a good thing. I just kinda think that the timing isn’t exactly superb given that we’re headed towards No Deal in the coming days and the whole tier system being a mess! But then, there’s always something so maybe now’s as good a time as any?
Noticed it was SNP MPs, makes sense to be honest. They’re not in government and they’re not the main opposition so they make up a lot of committees in Parliament.
JUST REACHED THE JETPACK LEVEL OF CRASH 2. SCREW THIS GAME TO HELL. I SPENT WHAT FELT LIKE YEARS TRYING TO BREAK THE FIRST BOX. IS IT STILL 2020? WHO THOUGHT THIS CONTROL SCHEME WOULD BE FUN? WERE THEY DEAF, DUMB, AND BLIND? I WAS HAVING A RELATIVELY FINE TIME UP UNTIL THE PENULTIMATE FLOOR; ALL GEMS, ALL RELICS - THEN A RAMP UP IN DIFFICULTY. THAT'S FINE, I THOUGHT. I'D BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME A LOT, MAYBE I'M TIRED. I'LL SKIP THE ONES I'M STUCK ON AND COME BACK LATER... BUT THIS JETPACK LEVEL? BEELZEBUB HIMSELF COULDN'T HAVE DESIGNED A MORE EVIL LEVEL.
It's been nice Crash, but no. Enough is enough you three quarter length trouser wearing sadistic psychopath.
@TheIdleCritic Oh yeah that one was pretty bad. I dunno, it took me quite a few tries but I didn’t have as much trouble as Crash 1. The controls took a while to get used to.
@nessisonett Yeah. I didn't find the majority of 2 that difficult. Just took practice but didn't get stuck too often. But this takes the biscuit. I can't be doing this. I might not even bother with 3. All I remember of that from my childhood is Coco riding a tiger over bridges.
@TheIdleCritic That absolutely blows. I should probably back my file up, I don't want to get platinums for Crash 1 again.....
By the way, Crash 3 is by far the easiest, but the N. Sane Trilogy version has weird handling for the Coco jetski levels. I don't remember how the other vehicles handled, but I particularly remember the jetski being off. Just a heads-up if you do go back to it.
"We don't get to choose how we start in this life. Real 'greatness' is what you do with the hand you're dealt." -Victor Sullivan "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." -Solid Snake
Fighting back tears. I'm afraid I haven't backed it up. No real reason for not doing so. I'm just not very forward thinking. I should really turn on auto upload.
But it's quite all right really. I've extracted all the trophies I could from 2, and as I said I hit a wall with the jetpack levels. I really don't think I'm ever going to bother with them. Unfortunately that means that's as far as I go, but it is what it is. I've only completed the first island in 1 before I reached a level that destroyed my soul. And I haven't started 3 yet. So I've only lost progress for a game I'll never play again.
Well, that’s it. Any thoughts of ever playing Crash N. Sane Trilogy are now gone.
I have to say, the post did make me laugh. In a tragic “laugh together with you at the ironic and so horrific it’s comical” situation, not at you. 😄 @TheIdleCritic
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution HAHA. If you can't laugh, what can you do!
I think I'll start something nice and easy for the holidays until I dive into Hitman 3 at the end of January. I can't be dealing with this level of stress anymore.
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