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Col_McCafferty

@RogerRoger Okay, I guess that makes sense. I think watching a playthrough is fine but it only gives you an idea of a game. You're still very much a passive viewer but it's one thing watching someone move a character down a long dark corridor but it's another thing entirely when you're in control!

I'm deep into Leon B and having to navigate the sewers. Man, it's not the most pleasant thing to do although I've reached the stage where I'm almost more worried about having to use ammo then running into the actual beasties themselves.

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Col_McCafferty

RogerRoger

@Col_McCafferty Absolutely agreed, there's no substitute for actually playing a game. I used to be dead against streamers from a personal perspective, but my experience with Alien Isolation cracked open a door, I guess. It's nice to have options, and allow folks to broaden their palates.

Also, apologies for lowering the tone, but you saying that you're "deep into Leon B" made me laugh!

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RogerRoger

...and that's me. Just completed my "Claire B" playthrough and saw the true ending.

I actually ended up quite impressed by how different each run turned out. I can also see why Mr. X became a hit, and was included throughout the remake; they used him very effectively, particularly during one sudden hair-raising moment when you check a CCTV monitor at a dead end, only to see him blocking your return path. That's my good kind of horror!

It's good to see others give the remake a glowing report card, because I get the sense that the PSone original was just as much of a slick and engrossing accomplishment back in the day. It falls slightly short in the plot department, opting for over-complicated, soapy twists in place of genuine depth, but I have to keep reminding myself that the original Metal Gear Solid was an outlier in this regard. For the technology they had, and considering the way actors generally regarded gaming voice-over work in the mid-90s, everything was still a cut above the average.

Thank you, Game Club! If left to my own devices, I'm not sure I'd have pushed past the sewer spiders and completed a Resident Evil game once, let alone twice. This ended up being a lot of fun, and a nice slice of gaming history to experience.

Although I really wanna play Dino Crisis now!

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger Bravo! Glad you enjoyed it. Between the two protagonists did you have a favorite to play as? Assuming the same applies to the Ps1 version, it is remarkable how different the runs feel.
I’m not very far, but I’ve started my Leon B run and was shocked at how quickly the helicopter crash into the building occurs. In the Claire A run it’s a good 2 hours or so of rummaging through the station before you come to it, versus with Leon it was one of the first set pieces I came upon, barely 10 minutes into the game. Also the A run had a while before the first licker but I had to deal with the first one right off the bat in the B route. I guess I’ll assume that Leon was taking his sweet time moseying over to the station, doing some window shopping on the way. Not to mention I was bummed to make my way to the front reception area at the station, hoping to unload some items into the item box, only to find it’s not there! The item boxes are in different places! Wasn’t expecting that.
Playing as Leon feels definitely harder for me, especially with item management. With Claire I was quickly able to carry most of what I wanted, but I run out of room so quickly in this playthrough. That’s been my biggest complaint. But access to heavier firepower comes much more quickly during this one too, so I guess it’s a balance.

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nessisonett

@Th3solution It’s interesting doing Claire A and Leon B because I think that means you don’t really run into Marvin at all!

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RogerRoger

@Th3solution Thanks! And y'know, I reckon I actually preferred playing as Claire. I think her interactions with Sherry (who's that rarest of gaming treats, a child who isn't simply a whiny series of teeth-itchingly annoying escort sequences) and greater interaction with the overall conspiracy helped her story more. As people I'd like to grab coffee with, there isn't much between them personality-wise, so maybe it was thanks to me inadvertently opting to play as Claire second.

Because a lot of what you're saying about your B playthrough rings true for me. Yep, the helicopter crash literally happened as soon as I got Claire (in my B story) to the Police Station, and the Lickers show up much quicker second time around. The smaller inventory, heavier weapons and slightly tougher difficulty level are also recognisable elements I discovered in the original. I loved finding all of the ways they managed to make replaying the same game feel worthwhile, so it's really gratifying to hear that they've preserved the same approach in the remake.

If it's that faithful to the original, then you'll still find yourself repeating a few puzzles and occasionally feel as though you're re-tracing your steps in a few places, but you should also be pleasantly surprised by how things pan out. Glad you were able to find more gaming time, and hope you enjoy!

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TheOtherEden

I’m actually doing a sort of Resident Evil binge. I have been doing this since Halloween. I started with Resident Evil 1 then 0 and now 2. 0 took me the longest, as I got a bit frustrated with the game and took a break from it for a week or two lol.

I’m at the end of Resident Evil: 2 on Leon B at hardcore. This my 4th time playing the game? That is if you count the A and B scenario has two separate play throughs, if not then it’s my second play through. Hardcore has been pretty easy so far. But it can be annoying sometimes, especially with Mr. X, for me Leon B has been more annoying then Claire A because you just get more Mr. X. He barely even bothered me on hardcore Claire A, around when he was around a lot and there was a bunch of Lickers around the police station I got a bit annoyed. Mainly because I refused to kill the lickers this time to conserve ammo lol. So I guess it’s my fault.

Anyway, I can’t wait to start Resident Evil: 3 because I actually haven’t played that one yet. I think it’s gonna be a blast. The only problem with the game is it’s a bit short. After 3 it’s Code Veronica next. But tbh I might a short break. I’m not sure.

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Col_McCafferty

I'm done with Leon B. I wish it had differed even more from route A and some boss battles were a tad frustrating as I didn't have any of the right weapons or secondary devices available BUT I managed to do it and reached the other side.

The first run through is brilliant, the second feels like s cover version that changed certain key sequences and notes but not enough to be completely it's own thing.

Overall I really enjoyed it and got the Resi bug!

Will play Resi 3 at some point and now I'm definitely interested in Resi 8.

8/10

Col_McCafferty

Th3solution

@nessisonett Actually the Claire A does have the interactions with Marvin. Presumably the dialogue and relationship is much different, but he helps you in the opening hours while hanging out near the underground exit until he finally changes when you return and attacks. There is a mild remorseful reaction from Claire when I shot him on the return to the station. But he had specifically instructed Claire earlier “If you see one of those things—no matter who they were—you can't hesitate. Take 'em out if you can” so I did. I’m assuming it’s the same basic thing with Leon. I sure hope so because if not I just spoiled it for you 😅

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nessisonett

@Th3solution Ah, I only played Claire B so I had no idea! I just assumed that Leon being a police officer and all would be interacting with Marvin and like I said, I didn’t see him much at all as Claire in route B but I didn’t see him as Leon either so it must be more of a route difference than character difference.

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Th3solution

@nessisonett Yeah the fact that Claire’s brother is Chris was something they had in common to discuss, as I recall.

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Th3solution

Made it through the first phase of the police station with Leon B and to the first boss fight now.

Like everyone has said, this part has been essentially the same as the A route but different enough to be still engaging due to enemy and item placement. The biggest difference to me (other than playing as Leon who has a slightly stronger handgun and a weaker but more utilitarian secondary weapon in the shotgun, and has more limited inventory space) is that blasted Mr X. Sheesh, he is much more aggressive this go around once he starts following you. Seems like I was able to avoid him a lot easier my first run. Now I’m having to spam the save rooms quite often as safe spaces until he loses interest for long enough to dart the other way.

Anyhoo, I plan to keep playing as I still very much enjoy it, but not sure if I will be able to progress enough this weekend to complete it the second run. Probably won’t quite get there this week.
It looks like I’m probably the only one left playing the second run (unless your disc ever got working @Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy ), so @nessisonett feel free to move on to the next game if you wish. Not sure if there was another game chosen yet. Or perhaps everyone wants to just chill with their PS5’s for a while and game club will have to be put on hold. Whatever you decide. Just a thought here —I recall DMC5 was a game that was kicked around as a possible club game and the PS5 special edition comes out in 2 weeks. Perhaps PS5 people and PS4 people could both be included (sort of how RE2 worked out this month with people playing the PS1 version alongside the remake). I don’t have a particular preference as I’m not sure personally if I will play DMC5 since I have no real experience with the series; I’ll have to see. It might warrant polling for interest.

I’ll probably still drop some updates thoughts as I make it through the latter parts of RE2 second run.

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Col_McCafferty

@Th3solution Yeah I'm done with Resi 2 but really enjoyed it. Just wish I was better at aiming!

Keep on posting though mate and share your thoughts and progress.

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No idea about December's game, I was only able to join in this time as I had purchased Resi 2 last year but wussed out. I was actually tempted to sell the game but then I played both Days Gone and The Last of Us Part II this year so thought I'd go for the zombie/freaker/infected hattrick!

Resi 2 the most outright horror game out of the three although Part II probably the most intense. Days Gone is more of an action game. I had a good time (if you could call it that!) with all three and will give Resi 3 a go at some point.

Enjoy!

Col_McCafferty

nessisonett

@Th3solution Yeah, I wasn’t sure what game we could play just because most people will be busy with their PS5. Devil May Cry V is definitely a good shout since the PS5 version is releasing though!

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Th3solution

@Col_McCafferty Yeah, I’ll definitely continue to drop some thoughts as I go, especially since I’m just now into the part of the second run where I expect things to really shake up. I can’t wait to meet this Ada character I keep hearing about.

I’m really tempted by REmake3 being on sale right now for $20 through the end of the month. It’s the cheapest it’s been so far, according to PSPrices.com. (The Raccoon City Ed with RE2&3 is going for $30 which is a fantastic deal to get both games for half the price of one of them for anyone who doesn’t already have RE2). There are a ton of great deals though, including DMC5 is on sale for $20 also and I’m also really tempted by TLoU2 on sale for $30. It’s the first I’ve seen it discounted.

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Col_McCafferty

@Th3solution Nice one!. Don't think I'm spoiling anything here but Ada is very cool. I think you'll enjoy her company.

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That is tempting but if I'm going to buy any new games it will be to play asap and I've had my fill of Resi for now. Maybe next Halloween!

Ah that's a great price for The Last of Us Part II, usually I'd say go for it BUT it's still up in the air if there will be a free upgrade on PS5 so maybe you're better off waiting for more news before taking the plunge. They're working on a MP so maybe that's due to come out alongside the PS5 version of Part II.

Col_McCafferty

Th3solution

@Col_McCafferty Yeah, for me personally, a lot hinges on whether I’m going to be able to get a PS5 within the next month or two. It’s not looking too promising after seeing that article that quotes Jim Ryan as saying all existing PS5’s have been sold. If new stock is literally coming straight off the factory line, I just don’t see them catching up with demand for a long, long time. So in the scenario that I don’t get to do next gen for many months hence, then I feel inclined to take advantage of the fire sales on PS4 titles. TLoU is a seminal game that I feel like I need to experience eventually. But you’re right, honestly I have plenty to play already anyways and the pattern with the first game was that it was re-released in remastered form quickly on PS4, so perhaps it will get some kind of Mile Morales type treatment where the new MP content will be sold with a nice PS5 upgrade/deluxe edition attached for those of us who missed the base game on PS4.

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Col_McCafferty

@Th3solution Maybe they'll upgrade the PS4 version for free and this is the lowest price it will ever be but I suspect that won't be the case.

I bought it day one and don't regret doing so but I have to be honest if I have to buy it again on PS5 I won't be too happy as I do intend on replaying it at some point.

C'est la vie!

Col_McCafferty

Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy

Ahh I did get the disc working again briefly and managed to progress a little... But then the claire disc completely broke down and wouldn't work anymore @Th3solution. Even trying it via the PS3 it was having none of it.

The leon disc worked fine but unfortunately for most the week my internet and my phone went down so lesson planning (and just getting in touch with my colleagues) was an absolute nightmare and I was just so busy that when everything went back to normal Thursday/Friday I couldn't be bothered unfortunately 😅

I've played it enough times before so it's not that big a deal...

Still I'll be looking forward to seeing how the remake differs and hearing about your adventures as Leon in the B scenario!


Apologies for the lateness but glad to hear you played and made it through both characters and scenarios @RogerRoger! Congrats on getting through it!

I've never actually played Dino Crisis myself though you can get a costume in the third resi to play as the main character from those.

Did you have a look at your version of Resident Evil 3 to see if that had a similar "arrange mode" addition or is that just the standard version of the game?

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