Topic: PlayStation 5 --OT--

@nessisonett it wasn’t even like that but since you popped off over it i’ll leave u alone

didn’t even think the comment was bad

@sorteddan I used to be terrible with mobile games for getting sucked into losing hours to the grind.

Like Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes where you could get a small amount of premium currency by playing every day and achieving a set amount of stuff. I end up getting to a point where I have to delete the game for my own sanity.

There are console games that suck me in and I think about them when not playing but never to an utter obsessive level.

@sorteddan Yeah that is one of the reasons I stopped playing was that I was finding FIFA and PES were coming too much of a time sink. And I wasn't keen on the direction the gameplay was heading, as it felt a game of finger gymnastics at times, especially online when it was mainly just people using whatever exploits are in the game.

@JudgeDredd @nessisonett @JohnnyShoulder @nomither6
Thank you for the responses. It's good to know it's not just me. I am aware it is probably my own personality traits but it is also that the games have systems partly designed by psychologists to be more addictive. Grind for coins to buy more packs to get better players to earn more coins ad infinitum...

Interesting to read @JudgeDredd comparison. I think I am a bit all or nothing with most things -including the booze - I'm fine if I avoid it altogether but not too good at moderation so can easily get in too deep.

Very much agree with @nessisonett about having a 'tendency for addictive behaviour' - so should probably avoid games that try to get me that way.

@nomither6 it's good you have something you enjoy. I think the point I was trying to convey is that I will get to a place where I don't even know if I am enjoying it, it's more of a compulsion to continue that I don't really want to reccur.

@Thrillho I don't think you're alone there. Mobile games have entranced a whole new audience, quite often people who are not otherwise gamers! When I enquire as to the objectives I do often find myself questioning people whether they are playing because of enjoyment of because they feel the need to get the next unlock or whatever.

@JohnnyShoulder and yeah obviously the time commitment is a thing as well. The games with all the flashy animations seemed to take up more time so I'd only be getting 4-5 games completed an hour. Even on modes that weren't FUT it would take way too long to complete seasons etc.

@sorteddan The main trick I use with live service games that I am interested in is I purposely join late. Knowing that I can't unlock everything results in me just playing when I feel like it for fun and avoiding the FOMO trap. A notable example is Gears 5, I was excited enough about the game that I would've bought it day 1 but instead I focused on Switch single player games I was buying around its launch (e.g. Astral Chain, Link's Awakening) and bought Gears 5 in a sale a few months after launch. Having missed out on a load of limited time unlockables given Season 1 was over, I just played the game casually.

As a result there's only been 1 live service game I've become addicted to but I didn't have that strategy in place at the time.

@Grumblevolcano
That is probably good advice. Thank you. The FIFA sitting on my PS5 will already be within the last couple of months of its prime, given that focus moves to the next game when the new season comes around (August/September time) so might not be too bad a time to dip my toes in.

@RogerRoger
Addictive personality club membership accepted. You are right though, I recall reading some governments debating whether it should be age restricted or actually legally classed as gambling so it's not as if it's an unknown phenomena.

-regarding gaming addiction: I decided to check out games sorted by most time played on my profile. FIFA16 came in only 3rd at around 460 hours - so about 19 days total but if you assume most days I would play maybe 3-6 hours then it's probably 100 days or so - but that wouldn't include time logging in to the app to trade stuff I guess.
I would genuinely be ashamed to admit the number of hours I put into #1 on the list which was Warframe, suffice to say it's more than a couple of thousand!!! ...so yeah I think I should avoid live service games.

@sorteddan “ I will get to a place where I don't even know if I am enjoying it, it's more of a compulsion to continue ”

i get that feeling with games in general . i hated my time with crash n sane trilogy but felt i had to beat all 3 games at least ; which made realize , do you know what’s worse than making a psychologically addictive game ? a game for masochists .

@Jimmer-jammer well first off, congrats on conquering Elden Ring. Sadly I don’t know any fixes that would solve your issue… I’d imagine that any suggestion I’d have would have already been tried by yourself. In regards to the ‘other’ section, are you able to interact with that at all? Maybe you could disable it or delete data from it? Like I said though mate, you’ve probably tried those things already.

@Jimmer-jammer Well done on Elden Ring! That is a bummer with your PS5. If you are still getting that error, I would recommend going into safe mode and trying some of the options available, such as rebuilding your database.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/hardware/safe-mode-...

@Jimmer-jammer Crikey, that is awful timing. Can’t believe the power company didn’t appreciate you’d be playing Elden Ring at that time!! Good to hear you got it sorted though and hopefully your save is intact. That last boss can be mildly irritating so be good to not have to do it again.

@Jimmer-jammer I had a power cut this week too, but the PS5 was in Rest Mode at the time and it appears it wasn’t actively downloading anything, thankfully. I just got the ugly warning message on reboot telling me not to unplug the console without shutting down, and then an auto storage rebuild. But I thought to myself, what if that had happened while I was actively playing and the game was auto-saving?
Welp, now I know.
Sorry for your bad luck, buddy.

@Jimmer-jammer yeah if it makes you feel any better mate, I would’ve been tearing up trees in frustration. Probably wouldn’t have been able to relax until it was sorted. You seemed to handle it in a very civilised manner… judging from your posts at least 😉

@Jimmer-jammer Glad it worked out. It’s one of those, “won the battle but lost the war” type of situations if you would have beaten the final boss but bricked your PS5 in the process.

Surely the PS5 engineers built in some kind of contingency systems into the console for power outages. It seems the “other” category is part of that, whereby maybe saved files go there in sequence before being permanently written on the appropriate folders on the drive. It seems doing the factory reset has cleaned it up for you.

Out of curiosity, now that you have reset and started over, so to speak, with your console, did you see the size of your “other” folder to go down? If indeed the “other” files have to do with pieces of save data or files that may have been orphaned, it might be smaller now.

I have about 400 GB of my drive used and about 30 GB is in the “other” folder. After my power cut I checked the sizes and the presence of all my apps and save folders and it appears the same before and after the power cut and storage rebuild process. Which I guess that’s good.

@Jimmer-jammer @Th3solution @colonelkilgore I really wish there was the ability to have multiple versions of a save somehow, either locally or in the cloud so that you could go back to a point in time. It would be perfect for things like this where if you've just got a single save and that gets corrupted then you are done for. Even if you've got cloud saves the one pushed up to the cloud could be a corrupted one, as I don't think it is able to check save integrity first, so when you download it back to the console you still can't use it.

I kind of wished I'd got that ability now as I realised the other night that I've messed up on my Cyberpunk play through and won't be able to platinum it on a single run through now. Autosaves are great but apparently it only keeps so many before it starts auto-deleting 😭

@render @Jimmer-jammer The FromSoft games are particularly egregious in this regard, as they don’t have manual saves on top of autosaves. Of course this keeps the integrity of the experience in check to combat save scumming. But in most other games I create multiple manual saves just in case I want to backtrack (which I rarely end up doing anyway).

But I’m in the same situation with the lack of true knowledge and understanding of how computers and software works. But actually, I think that the fact you did a clean sweep of your console is quite refreshing. Kinda like doing a spring cleaning of your garage and just throwing away all the junk that’s been sitting there collecting dust. I look at my PS4 especially and that poor thing has so much crap loaded on it over the years that I’ve either finished, abandoned, never played, or just plain forgot about. It’s why I’ve decided not to connect an external storage nor buy upgraded storage for my PS5 yet. So far I’m able to keep the hard drive simpler and have had enough room for the 4-5 games I have any chance of playing in the month. I won’t say I’ll never upgrade, but so far I’m okay with what I have. And from time to time I have the temptation to just “start over” with a clean sweep like you had to do.

@render as an out-and-proud save-scummer, I could really do with being able to save to usb that’s for sure.

@Th3solution @colonelkilgore I've certainly save scummed before and will do so again if it means saving myself a ton of time. I still don't understand why they've not kept the ability to copy to USB for PS5 games though, it's just weird. Unless they use some magical multi-dimensional storage format that can't be represented on the same drive as PS4 saves then there's surely no reason to omit it. The cynical view is that they want to push people to use PS Plus, which really is entirely plausible.

@render But then you couldn't have PS4 and PS5 game saves on your internal SSD, which is the case now. It's more likely what you said last about pushing people to PS Plus. It's not a big deal to me as I would be subscribed to it anyways for the free games.

@KilloWertz Which is why it seems all the stranger. I’ve not got a problem with cloud saves requiring PS+ generally but I think if they are tied to that there should be a free alternative, and there just isn’t.

Somebody posted some leaked images from a new Silent Hill game on Twitter and they were DMCA'd swiftly... which kinda proves they're legit?