Topic: Metaphor: ReFantazio Thread

@PorkChopExpress Pay the informant outside the Honeybee Inn for info, he will tell you what the enemies are weak to. Then you can use him for future missions including any bounties or side missions. If I were to do it differently, I would have gotten my wisdom upto to 2 so I could purify the sword you get from defeating the dragon in the Nord Mines. I also did not unlock the Igniter shop early enough to actually buy anything from it, so would have done that earlier.

@Jimmer-jammer Thanks! Yeah I hear there is a chunk of time later that you can use to finish of any follower bonds/royal virtues. Am on my way to the next city as have unlocked the Gunner.

@PorkChopExpress I only sell stuff that comes up in the tab when going to a shop. Ingredients you need for cooking which you won't unlock till a bit later, apart from one side activity in town. To purify a weapon your Wisdom needs to be at 2. You can then take weapons and armour to a church to purify them which makes them stronger. You will also need blessed water which you can find in chests and those blue glowing items.

You can also pick up items that need to appraised before they can be used, just take these to any shop and select the 'Appraise' option.

@PorkChopExpress You'll be ahead of me soon!

Came across my favourite character and story moment so far in Martira. Quite a bit of toilet humour which most likely explains why!

@PorkChopExpress Blimey, that feels like you got through that quickly! I've only recenly got to Brilehaven, so feels like I still have a ways to go.

@Jimmer-jammer I'm currently in Brilehaven, doing bounties and other side activities before infiltrating Louis's runner. Still enoying it so far!

I have been playing through the demo on Steam Deck, and got to the end of it yesterday after a week or so and 10-11 hours playtime. I went to buy it thinking it would still be on sale (for some reason) but I have had to fork out £59.99 for the full game now unfortunately. I wanted to get it regardless as I have enjoyed the demo, but I hope I don't get bored and bounce off it.

Not a Persona fan but this is gelling with me a lot more.

@kyleforrester87 Hope it manages to stick with you.

Was there anything in particular that you didn't like with the Persona games? I've never played them, but was always put off by the setting and time management stuff. The latter in Metaphor seems to be a bit more lenient in how many days you have to do everything.

@JohnnyShoulder I don’t really mind the time management exactly, more how clunky and disjointed I felt that it made the experience in Persona. Still feel a bit like that with Metaphor, but it’s less restrictive overall so I am trying to put those grievances behind me. Persona was way more restrictive, in the early hours at least. Constantly getting told to go to bed.

As for my problems with Persona, I guess I mostly struggle to get too excited about playing a huge RPG as some school kids. I found Morgana (the equivalent of Gallica) really annoying, and while the music was good it’s pretty repetitive and wore quite thin after 20-30 hours. Potentially the same problem with Metaphor tbh, the music is cool but it seems to run on quite short loops or just has the potential to become quite tiresome for whatever reason quicker than a game like Final Fantasy or Xenoblade Chronicles.

Also Persona 5 started with a pretty cool villain which I thought would set the standard for the rest of the game, but from what I played it was the peak.

I had Metaphor gifted to me for Xmas as I really liked the look of it (plus I am a fan of Persona lol).
Put about 2 hrs into it and have not looked at going back to play it yet.

I know these games have very slow starts but this one is just not clicking for me yet. Might give it another shot tonight on my Portal.

@kyleforrester87 Yeah the music is probs my least favourite aspect after almost 80 hours. I've had to turn it off sometimes. Mind you I was hungover at the time and could not bear those monks chanting any longer lol.

@JohnnyShoulder at first the battle music is really cool, same with Persona 5 but it does grate over time. Ideally it needs 9 or 10 different battle songs to keep things fresh, if they are going to be that intense. Hopefully I stick at it… spent £60 so I mean to!!

@kyleforrester87 I got a really good deal and got it for 32 quid just before Christmas!

@kyleforrester87 Metaphor's structure definitely feels like a solid evolution of what they did with Persona.

Still really happy I got in pre-release at around $40 on PC, lol.

The best thing is that the difficulty balancing is actually really nice in this game. Much more SMT than Persona. You have to actually play carefully on a higher difficulty setting.

First time I had to drop the difficulty down. One of the enemies in the Dragon God Temple I just couldn't get pass. Killed it first time on easy!

I had changed my party up to try exploit it's weaknesses but it was feeling like I was getting nowhere.

I am possibly a little under levelled however this dungeon had the lowest recommended level compared to the other quests available.

@Jimmer-jammer I think that Spire one I've got upcoming, looking forwad to it!

It was the Crag Manjula that was giving me grief. Tried using strike attacks and stuff like Masked Dancer's ability to make it weak against certain elements, but it always seem to wipe my party out in a couple of goes. All the other enemies in the dungeon I seem to manage ok with.

I’m not really sure when to start changing job roles, I have a healer, knight and warrior all around level 10. Is it better to start bringing some of the others through? I am still in the first dungeon, 6 days left.

@Jimmer-jammer I faced one yesterday and somehow managed to cast Forget on it, so it couldn't cast any of its spells! Not quite how I did that, but I did steal some of it's MP so maybe that is why.

@kyleforrester87 Yeah I would as some of the next tier of Archetypes you need two of them at a certain level. Magic Kinght you need Knight at level 20 and Mage at level 10 as an example. It has caught me out recently as some of the reccommended Archetypes for some of the dungeons I've not levelled up one of the Archetypes to a high enough level.

I've also found you get more than enough MAG to invest in skills. Money is bit more tighter and I've used the MAG converter a few times. Try to use that on a rainy day/Idlesday to get a better conversion rate.

I see, I read MAG was a bit stingier but maybe that’s wrong then. I was a bit reluctant to go nuts. Also I don’t have many classes available yet really. I got Brawler recently but it seems kinda sucky (maybe I’m wrong!)

Anyway, beat the necromancer, done the desert bounty and the plot is moving along a bit too! Enjoying it.

@kyleforrester87 Hopefully that doesn't come to bite me in the backside then! MP restoring items are quite hard to come by, so you either have to grind or go back to town to rest.

How many days did it take you to complete the dungeon?

Yeah the Brawler can be a pain as you have to keep topping up it's HP. You could always use items to replenish HP, which won't consume MP. I always make sure I buy a load on Idlesday when everying is cheaper. Later on you can cook meals too.

@JohnnyShoulder As someone who's finished the game, I would definitely advise to slow down on the MAG exchange. I never used it and I was running out of MAG by the end of it and had to work to level the archetypes up fot everyone. I think I only just was able to unlock everyone's best archetype before credits rolled, but didn't even master all of them! Meanwhile, the money will come rolling in over time and I had hundreds of thousands in cash with nothing to spend it on.