@CJD87 I did the exact same thing with my character. Whilst it meant I was rarely the most effective in fights it did mean I could open/unlock/disarm everything and could also persuade anyone most of the time too (barring terrible dice rolls but inspiration is super handy). I did split a couple of levels into Ranger around level 6/7 to expand my armour/weapon options but having now finished the game I'm happy with having played my character that way.
There is certainly a complexity to it all and I felt I was learning and becoming more effective through the whole game but still enjoyed that aspect. I played the whole game on default 'balanced' and got through and certainly feel the game can be played a lot more expertly than I did.
Not sure how much advice I could give but I found it handy to have my characters have high Initiative so I always had at least a few of my characters get to do stuff before the enemy can do anything. Removing opponents from the playing field as soon as possible is very handy. Always 'examine' all your opponents in a fight to determine what might be a weakness and what might be useless and a wasted turn. I sometimes learned that the hard way early on. Also don't be afraid to long rest often as things are rarely as time sensitive as it may seem and you don't want to go into fights without useable skills/spells. Plus there is tons of food all over the place. Near the end I think I had enough for about a 100 long rests.
That's all that springs to my mind other than if a fight seems too hard maybe try exploring somewhere else and come back later after maybe finding cool gear or more xp somewhere else.
Oh yeah and the touchpad to better explain spells/skills/affects got used a lot by me. Even though I did still google the occasional thing to understand better what certain terms meant.
Not sure if that helps but best of luck and hope you continue to enjoy it.
@CJD87 I mean general tips for combat I guess would be to not always focus on damage output, which can be tempting if coming from action games. Find any ways to get your party advantage (99% hit chance) be it via stealth, invisibility, high ground, or inflicting status effects on enemies like paralysis, sleep, slowed, general stuff that makes them an easy target.
Always have one dedicated healer. Throw potions for more healing a party member if you don't have spells available or your healer has had their turn.
Use weapon coatings. Something I did not do much of as I was hoarding items. But you find and can craft so many potions, just coat those blades and arrows and go for it for a good bit of extra damage or status effect.
Early on I would split my party a lot for obvious ambushes and things like that, so two or three party members could surround an enemy or an area before combat begins, then if one enters combat, you can switch to control another out of combat, and as long as you aren't within the red sight lines (press r3 pr crouch to see them) you can range attack, or throw some aoe bombs, or cast a spell to help you start with a good advantage.
Try to group enemies together and use AOE spells with your caster, as they will hit for the most damage. And use surfaces to make AOE stronger. Water x Lightning, Grease x Fire. Something I always wanted to do more of, but never did.
Keep an eye on your attack bonus. Attack bonus is added on to your roll to determine whether you will hit a target with an attack. Using gear you are proficient in and making sure every party member is properly effective just makes things easier as you will land more hits and avoid more attacks.
Another general tip would be to take out enemies from the fight, rather than mildly damage each one, as less enemies means you get more value from each turn. So the sooner you take one or two out, the better for the whole fight. Whether it be taking out by killing them outroght, or taking out a group of enemies, or a powerful enemy, for a turn or two with a good spell.
The absolute most satisfying way to take out a group of enemies or a boss is via a spell that creates an ice surface too! But throwing or casting grease can be just as good for that. If the enemy slips over, that's a turn missed, and the surface will stay there for a good few turns. And it's just funny as f*** 😁😁😁
In fact, my next playthrough I might just focus solely on making enemies slip over as it's just too damn funny. A party of 4 ice storm casting and grease wielding wind up merchants would make for a fun Co-op
@Ravix Yep the big bath in the Boudoir had 2 taps that gave you a free 'long rest' as often as you wanted. 😁It was one of those times the 'use' prompts come up and I think 'should I save before touching that'.
That's reminded me. Did you have any problems with the painting in that room? I had my game crash/stall every-time I tried looking at it. Thankfully I managed to finally disarm and open the safe without looking at it (cursor wise) on the 3/4th attempt.
@BearsEatBeets nope, it just blew me up a bit 😅 I also repeatedly got blown up a bit on the inner doors to the contract room, as I was just being stubborn with my lock picking/arcana which again, made the lack of long rests even more daunting, if only I'd stepped a foot further into that damn bath 😅😅
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@Ravix Not sure I would have got got through that area without the taps, I didn't have any/many angelic slumber potions at that time (best potion in the game). Plus I somehow jumped my character into the abyss after releasing Hope so foolishly lost my 'well fed' and 'anointed in splendor' buffs for the rest of that area.
Your contract mention has just reminded me of something else. I wish the game would sometimes tell you when you can only say one thing. I went to Mol after getting it but said something else first, so the convo finished without me being able to say I had killed Raphael. When I tried speaking again the option wasn't there anymore ☹️. I wanted to know what her response would have been.
@BearsEatBeets I'll let you know, as I still have to go see Mol if I remember, as it's not in the actual quest log, I don't think. Just one of those you do yourself.
When it seems you're out of luck.
There's just one man who gives a f*************ck
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I am amazed by how quickly I am falling in love with this game... and can only imagine how much richer the experience is on PS5/PC (I'm on Deck, plays well enough mostly 30fps with some chugs in busy areas)
Balanced mode is perfect for me now, and I am scumming/re-loading some failed combat encounters so I may learn and improve upon where I initially went wrong. The scale of this game is insane as well, and the level of quality with the voice acting and personality within each character is great! I currently have Gale, Shadowheart and Lae'zel in my party... the constant bickering between the latter 2 is hilarious.
Wish me luck....
But for sure, this is now my absolute GOTY. I'd always assumed that TOTK would be my shoe-in, but I'd probably have that ranked #3, behind Lies of P #2 and BG3. (Honorable mention for Blasphemous 2, loved every second)
@CJD87 Some of the dialogue has genuinely made me laugh at times. Although I couldn't bring myself to have my character say some of the options but will definitely try them in my next playthrough. I think I would have loved the player character be voiced but I understand a lot don't like that, especially with how flexible the character can be played. The companions are stellar though. Mass Effect is the only game I can think of that creates a similar level of personality but I think this has surpassed even that.
I hear there is another big patch incoming so maybe that will help Deck play too. Anyway, I hope you continue to enjoy it. My playthrough lasted well over 200 hours and I loved every minute.
That I killed Raphael, after I'd given her the contract, and she said I was a c*** for doing so, that he was her patron and had promised that she'd run the city one day. So now she has promised to find another way to the top, and will one day kill me
@Ravix 😮😮Did she still remain on your list of allies? If so maybe she is just joking. Either way, maybe it worked out for the best I didn't tell her. 😁
@BearsEatBeets will have to wait until she grows up lol. It'd be cool if it was one of those where they do another game in the future and you could use an old save with past consequences, like they did with TW2 to TW3, but not likely in this case. More just a loss of an ally. I did test not telling her out of interest too, and just said I had the contract and persuaded her to join the cause to prove her worth. So that's how you get the ally in that instance. Selective memory, just not telling her the details lol.
Right then, this is the next big game for me to get my teeth into so I just wanted to ask if people had any advice for someone going into this pretty much blind.
And I don’t know whether to go for my standard stealthy, quick attacking type of character or something a bit different.
@Thrillho I'm a week deep, about 8hrs and absolutely loving this game. I'm playing blind(ish) with a bit of research on good spells to select when levelling up and which sub-classes are good.
Stealth and quick-attack is my jam as well funnily enough!
I have created a 'Charismatic Rogue' character, which has been awesome so far. I dumped INT and instead started with 17 DEX / 14 CON / 14 CHA.
Then chose a race that was solid enough with persuasion. So I've got all the stealth and sneak attacks, but my character can also be the 'face' for the group and engage in all the conversational checks, using deception/persuasion to talk his way in/out of situations.
I actually restarted about 4 hrs in, just to play from the start again once I understood combat a bit better. My first CRPG, never thought I'd fall for it as much as I have. Closest I played before was Disco Elysium, also really decent.
@Thrillho Me and @Ravix tried to give some general tips/advice on the previous page of this thread that you might want to glance at. I also found a Youtube channel called 'Fextralife' had a lot of quick helpful vids early on.
I think there are tons of different ways you can successfully build your character and the companions can always specialise in areas your character isn't good in. You find a full team of them pretty quickly.
@CJD87@BearsEatBeets Thanks both. I spent far too long tinkering with my character but eventually settled with the rogue urchin wood elf Silva (forest in Latin).
I didn’t quite get to the end of the prologue last night and combat is a bit overwhelming at the moment but I just need more time to play around with it.
Big thumbs down for not being able to pause the game or cut scenes though. Annoying when I’m trying to play and the baby wakes up crying and I have to leave the game to its own devices.
@Thrillho The no pause isn't ideal I agree. It's not the same, but if you switch to turn-based mode I think your characters will be safe as nothing should happen until you take your turn. At least I believe that's true.
Just started playing this game and as an older gamer who's been around since NES times, I gotta say this is probably the best game I've ever played. It's got so much freedom, awesome rpg mode, and has that tactical Final Fantasy Tactics vibe with turn based combat and all. Good choice Thrillo on the Rogue. I'm still in Act 1 but made Astarian an assassin rogue and he's my number one killer and sneak attack artist lol. I chose to play as an open hand Monk and am loving it. Still in Act 1 and already have 65 hours but would like to eventually play online, thought i've not tried it out yet.
@Thrillho Haha your character looks crisp, nice job ! (Stings a bit though seeing how much better your PS5 experience is vs my Deck playthrough lol)
The lack of pause during cutscenes is certainly annoying, but generally most future scenes are driven by dialogue options - and will organically 'pause' whilst awaiting your response selection.
Combat seems massively overwhelming at first, but honestly it gets easier. I'm playing on the middle/normal difficulty 'balanced' which I feel is giving me a solid challenge but not kneecapping me.
Some general tips - when equipping weapons/armor, always make sure you're putting appropriate items with the right proficiencies. (EG Don't put 'heavy' armor on a character that can only handle 'light armor')
Take your time also, the beauty of the combat is that there is no rush. Positioning is also really key, with high-ground attacks being nearly always preferable.
But my biggest advise - don't do as I did and prevent playing due to wanting to read up on the mechanics... "just play" and get used to it. If something is confusing , or you want tips, I'd suggest reaching out here or via the sub-reddit. IMHO - PushSquare and Reddit have the best communities, with GameFAQs being a pit of toxicity ha
@CJD87 Yeah, I'm just throwing myself into it as trying to figure everything out via guides is just too overwhelming.
I managed to clear the dank crypt last night so have Withers on board now. Still struggling a little with the combat but slowly getting there. Like lots of these games and strategy/RTS games it feels a little clunky/convoluted playing with a controller but I'm sure it will all become more intuitive.
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