@colonelkilgore Glad you’re enjoying it. Yeah, I hadn’t even thought about the fact you’d be playing immediately on the heels of GoT so there will be a let down of sorts, clearly. So yes — you’re correct I think when saying you need to take it all it context. It’s like watching the latest Star Trek movie after watching 2001: A Space Odyssey. They are both good films but you have to judge each on its own and it’s own situation, and so it makes it tricky to assign scores.
Games like GoT, GoW, RDR2, HZD, Zelda, Final Fantasy… some of these are just in a league of their own and so epic in nature. The shorter indie AA scene does feel differently and so has to be consumed with that in mind. Yet, some of my favorite experiences have been in the indie and AA space.
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@Th3solution yeah in fairness I havent played a ton of indies but I agree... its kinda like reviewing street food and a la carte. There is some absolutely beautiful street food and I certainly enjoy me some street food... but sitting down and enjoying a 3 Michelin star dining experience is another level.
I am gonna make a concerted effort to rota in more indies in future though. I have quite a few in the backlog anyway but I'm always on the look out for more. As well as genre and time-to-plat, production type is another good differential to keep things fresh.
@TheBrandedSwordsman@colonelkilgore (moved from the other thread) Yeah, curious to hear about Deus Ex: Mankind Divided since I actually have it in my library from PS+ and just have never thought to try it. I’ve never played anything from the series. So let me know how it goes.
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@Th3solution@colonelkilgore I didn't like what I played of it, controls weren't as accurate as in Control, it's an FPS though, not third-person, although you have the option to play it that way but doesn't really work in my opinion, plus I didn't really like the computer hacking elements of the game, deleted almost immediately, now installing Return of the Obra Dinn, I think I'll stick with that one. Deus Ex was just bought on a whim.(£3.74 in the sale)
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@TheBrandedSwordsman I just bought it… and rebought Human Revolution. Have absolutely no idea when (or even if) I’ll get to play them but they’ll be there if I fancy them.
@Th3solution they may not appeal to you buddy, they’re what’s called an immersive sim (in fact I think the original Deus Ex may indeed have spawned the genre) and it’s this game type which Dishonoured is considered part of. Still, they might be worth a go just to see for yourself.
@colonelkilgore Well let me know how you get on with it and if you like it better than I did - I just started RotOD, seems like a pleasant and charming little game, I'll be sure to keep you and @Th3solution posted on my progress.
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Playing A Plague Tale, thanks to PS+. My God, Hugo is annoying. Thank the heavens I didn't pay for this.
@TheIdleCritic Replying to you here instead of the Chit Chat thread, as I know a few people have or will play it recently.
I agree Hugo is a bit annoying initially, but I think that was maybe intentional by the developers. He does become less annoying the more the game goes on I felt though.
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@Th3solution@colonelkilgore Still playing through RotOD and I don't think it's spoilering anything to say I have seen my first death scene and am just trying to piece the clues together, that's how it works in this game as any info on the web will tell you.
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@Th3solution@colonelkilgore (You have to piece the clues together to discover how everyone died on the ship 'Obra Dinn') in order to complete the game.
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@TheBrandedSwordsman detective style then… sounds like a nice change of pace. Easy to piece the clues together appreciate are you finding any walls to progression?
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@colonelkilgore And yeah it is a nice change of pace, very relaxing thus far, especially with the 1-bit monochrome art-style, I can see why so many Souls players love it as a nice side-game.
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@TheBrandedSwordsman yeah A Plague Tale was really good actually, finished off the story (which was excellent) yesterday and gonna finish up the plat this afternoon. If you do try it you might not be that keen for the first few chapters but it really does pick up. It’s dark, gruesome and the puzzle-like sections of the later areas are quite satisfying.
@Kidfried Currently playing through Return of the Obra Dinn. Well, that Giant Squid was certainly a bit of a surprise! I am now in the cargo hold, no fates solved, planning to solve them all after discovering all the bodies
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@Kidfried I love the monochrome 1-bit art style and the memento mori pocketwatch death-scene mechanic .The game design is fantastic ,and well, there's not much else to say as there's not much else to the game is there? But the puzzle aspect of solving the clues to unravel the mystery is obviously good too, it is very different to the Souls games which I have primarily played in the past, and ,as you say, to many of the different games out there right now, it was a toss-up between this and FFVII Remake for my next game but I chose this as I didn't like the idea of switching between characters on-the-fly during gameplay.
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Played a bit of Judgement last night. Yeah it was oright. Movement feels a bit janky in places, but apart from that it was fun what I played. Not played any of the Yakuza games so can't compare it to them, but might get the latest one at some point as it is a fresh start for the series.
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Nah, there are too many games in the series to play at this point, and it feels a bit overwhelming tbh. I'd rather start from the most recent games and go from there.
I think I've got one from PS plus, but that will most join a ton of other games I will never get round to play.
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@Thrillho@Kidfried@JohnnyShoulder I can empathize with Johnny — if there is a series that has an intimidating volume of content, it’s Yakuza. I mean, even more than anything else it’s just frightening as a newcomer who likes completion. And I know that each game has a satisfying ending and can stand alone, but they are all interconnected closely and in the case of Y0-Y6, it’s literally the continuous story of Kiryu, as far as I understand. So to get the whole story, that’s 7 games, running an average of what, 60 hours each. Maybe 400-500 hours (or more depending on style of play) just to see Kiryu’s whole arc? It is really a scary proposition.
I can think of other series that have multiple entries that are really long epics, like Final Fantasy, the Tales series, or Zelda, but none that are so dependent story wise on having played the others quite like Yakuza. At least this is my perception. I played about halfway through Y0 and it was great fun, but as more and more Yakuza and spin offs dropped quickly into the market, I got pretty overwhelmed and jumped ship before I lost my life to Japanese organized crime. Y0 alone was a huge game and a large (albeit enjoyable) time sink.
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