@colonelkilgoreSame here!! And the creator already said that its the canon decision if the game continues. Not gonna lie that was some very memorable writing. I'll remember it for the rest of my days. "You have no honor" "And you are a slave to it!" Amazing stuff.
@TraCuz- agreed bud, imho it’s as good as any writing I’ve witnessed in a game. I was a little surprised actually as I’d heard it was a bit tropey and that Jin was one-dimensional. I thought the opposite though, I didn’t see tropes but homage to the heritage and as I alluded to earlier Jin was Nolan-esque.
@colonelkilgore Ah man, seeing your and @TraCuz- comments brings back awesome memories of the game. It really did have some epic moments. The gameplay was quite fantastic too. But the star of the whole thing was that beautiful art design. Lovely and just so mesmerizing to play. Following the wind never got old.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution yeah just a total package of excellence. You’re totally right about the art design too, something that imho is so much more important than resolution and frames per second. That’s (one of the reasons) where Sony first parties are so already of the game… with the exception of Rockstar. These games might well be running on an archaic 1 t-flop Jaguar powered trip back to 2013… but GoT, God of War, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Death Stranding dropped more jaws than Marilyn Monroe in her pomp.
@Th3solution just installing A Plague Tale: Innocence (or as I like to call it innocence: A Plague Tale😉). I wasn’t particularly close to playing it anytime soon but what with your positive thoughts on it… and I was kinda worried that if I upgraded to the PS5 version it may lock me out of the PS4 version (a remnant of paranoia from the Mary-Jane fuelled haze of decades past). So I’m gonna play the PS4 version I already had… and then upgrade to the PS5 version post-plat and play that when I fancy a retread.
Everyone seems to love it so, looking forward to it.
@colonelkilgore I have investigated it, but not fully enough (I've moved our chat here in the interest of remaining 'on-topic'). How are you finding it thus far? (A Plague Tale)
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@colonelkilgore Cool. I hope I didn’t oversell APT:I. Especially since I haven’t even finished it. But my patience paid off — that is, when the news of the PS5 upgrade dropped a few weeks ago, I just put my playthrough on hold, hoping they’d have a cross-save feature to port your PS4 save into the PS5 version and sure enough, the latest patch supposedly put in cross-save. So I’m good to just jump back into the game on PS5. Supposedly trophies auto pop so if I really wanted the trophies then it would be better to just finish the game on PS4 and then port the save afterwards for the free extra platinum (assuming I’m able to get the plat - which I hope to do since it’s supposedly easy) but I reckon I’ll just play the last half of the game on PS5 instead for all the 4K, 60 fps, and haptic goodness. The save transfer does also appear to go the other way, so maybe I could port the save back to PS4 if I really want to close out the partial trophy list on PS4. We’ll see how vain I end up being. (It does wrangle my obsessive-compulsive tendencies to have a partial trophy list when I could complete it easily)
But yes — the save transfer supposedly takes a little effort, something about uploading to the cloud and then re-downloading it when you start up the PS5 version. So unlike Xbox smart transfer process, you won’t accidentally lose the ability to play the PS5 version from scratch as you have to go through some intentional steps to port the save. So you’re good either way, whichever version you choose to play first. Excited to hear how you like running through rat-infested medieval France.
Which by the way, I am curious how an Englishman interprets the game. As an American I don’t have any direct vested interest in The Hundred Years War or any of the nationalist feelings that surrounded it. Obviously the game has a pretty specific depiction going on. I hope it sets well with you!
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Voltan I completed Control this morning, great game I felt sorry for Dylan /'P6' being left to his ultimate fate of a coma with very little to none of his original personality retained, but hey, as @Th3solution said, "dude was flat out creepy" 🤣 I like the way you could approach a sort of new game plus afterwards, with all the different options for progression set out for you.
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@colonelkilgore 😅 Oh no! My New World ignorance is really showing! Pardon my naivety of the United Kingdom and her factions. 😬
I should say “British” or “resident of Great Britain” ….? Y’all have a complicated set up over there! (He says, knowing that he lives in a country with 50 different regional districts which each have their own culture and identity… 😅)
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution I'm British as well! How's Returnal going?
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@Th3solution yeah Britain is like the anti-Scandinavia… a group of closely knit countries that share a whole bucket-load of culture and similarities. The only difference being, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland & Iceland seem to get on fine with each other 🤣
@colonelkilgore@nessisonett I guess I’m guilty of the laziness of just lumping everything into being “English” or “England” especially historically speaking. Maybe similar to people (ourselves included) calling us all “Americans” when they really mean citizens on the United States, since in reality every nation in North and South America are actually “Americans”.
But we have it the same over here — 50
united states that all hate each other. 😜
Well at least the red states hate the blue states, and vice versa. And then everyone hates California. Even the people that live there 😂
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution yeah humankind is still incredibly tribal eh… I guess Ozymnadias was right all along when he suggested that the only thing that would unite us is a giant one-eyed cosmic octopus huh? 😜
So, I’ve made a start on A Plague Tale: Innocence… haven’t gotten as much done as I’d have liked as I’ve had visitors and such but just started the 6th chapter. It’s good. Wasn’t convinced at first as the controls seem a little ‘flighty’ (they still seem a little flighty if I’m honest) but the mechanic involving rats and flame is well implemented and it’s drawn me in. Good story too… dark and gruesome, yet touching and poignant.
There’s certainly a lot of things that would raise a few red flags if it were triple-A but it’s understandable considering its indie production status. Speaking of which… and I know I’m gonna be controversial here (what’s new though) imho we need to use completely different gauge’s when judging triple-AAA’s and indies. Now I know reviews aren’t the be-all, end-all but they do serve the purpose of helping ‘separate the wheat from the chaff’. I just got done with Ghost of Tsushima which averaged out an 8(ish) from critics and similarly A Plague Tale: Innocence averaged out around the same. I’ve always understood it to be a different reviewing criteria between the two types of production but I personally am not sure it’s made clear enough for the layperson. Just my two-cents.
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