@RogerRoger Control's map really is pretty bad but there's signage all over the Oldest House pointing you to other sections of the building, so most of the time you can just check which section the objective is in using the map and then follow the signs.
@Voltan That’s also a good point which I forgot to mention and I’ll tag @TheBrandedSwordsman on that — although TBS you haven’t expressed any significant difficulty with the map but if you are struggling to find a place and the map is confusing you where to go then following the in-game signs around the oldest house is actually more helpful. Just imagine like if you were walking through a real-life office building, the signs point you from one department to the next and almost always keep you on track.
@RogerRoger If the PS5 version was more of an upgrade (rather than what sounds like a downgrade almost) then I’d have considered going back to Fallen Order for the platinum, but honestly, it was my inability to 3-dimensionalize the space in my head and correlate it to the holomap that put me off a few of the trophies like collecting all the treasure and filling out the entire map. Some of the worlds were worse than others, though but in my mind a couple of them were like a ball of tangled yarn that I was trying to unravel each time I tried to get from point A to point B. But I agree the aesthetics of BD’s map were definitely very well done artistically. Of course at the time my experience with Metroidvania style gameplay was very dim and underdeveloped, so I’d probably do better now. It didn’t tarnish my overall enjoyment of the game though. It was still a fabulous time and the best Star Wars game I’ve probably played, at least certainty since The Force Unleashed.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution Yeah I found the office building signs quite helpful and more useful than the map actually, I have actually been using them as a matter-of-fact!
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@RogerRoger Yeah, I’ve forgotten exactly which worlds had me the most turned around, but Dathomir was a tough one.
Which area was the one where you had to jump down some kind of one-way descent course underground, dodging a few things along the way, and when you got to the bottom there was another large maze of platforms and side routes and enemies, and to get to certain points of the map you had to ride some sort of tram back up to the top and do the descending maze again? That one sticks out as a tough area to explore and I remember the map not helping me much because of several one-way routes which didn’t appear clearly delineated as such on the map. If memory serves, it was one of those map areas where I was missing like 5% toward map completion and for the life of me I couldn’t find where the small section of map I hadn’t explored was. And yeah, a fast travel option would have helped in that area 😅.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@RogerRoger Yes! That’s the one. It was an ice slide (which I’ve never been a fan of ice in video games) that you had to navigate down. And I did so repeatedly trying to find all the passageways and just couldn’t get the completion percentage.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@RogerRoger Don’t remember if I found that area, it’s all fuzzy in my brain now. 😄
Cheers for the recommendation though, and I’ve made a mental note (which hopefully will stick in my cerebral catalogue) so I can find that if/when I return.
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@colonelkilgore The hotel segments in the game definitely do have a run-down Americana vibe to them, I feel like they should be called 'motel' segments ,in fact. Also I am glad you are enjoying GoT, I got pretty far with that before giving up during one particular mission, it's a lot of fun. Which mode are you playing in?
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@TheBrandedSwordsman by mode, do you mean Kurosawa or vivid colour? If so, regardless of my film student roots and my respect for Kurosawa, there's no way I'm playing GoT in B&W... its far too gorgeous.
And yeah, totally agree about the hotel, motel... (holidayyy-innn 🎵 ... sorry couldn't help myself there) definitely a motel.
Apologies for the late reply @Gremio108 but everything is going pretty well on my end thanks
And I'll be sure to give Salt & Sanctuary a look-see then in the future. If it's seemed to have gripped you that much then there's surely something there and a 2D souls does sound rather interesting!
I am still playing through Control, still in Black Rock Processing and have just defeated a teleporting boss (Hiss creature) in there, on the search for a black rock prism and continuing on with the journey.
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House sitting for my brother for a week, so I won’t be playing any of my games. He owns Spirit Hunter: NG, so I’m playing through that. I liked Death Mark, so I expect I’ll enjoy this. I’m using his PS5, so I could play through his copies of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and Returnal, but I think I’d rather wait until I get my own PS5.
@colonelkilgore@Th3solution@Jimmer-jammer I just got the black rock prism from Black Rock Quarry and presume that all I need to do now in order to pop the chapter trophy is speak with Marshall in Central Executive it's a good game but finding your way through the environments can be a little obtuse, looking for to the next h(m)otel segment of the game!
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@TheBrandedSwordsman yeah it can be a little confusing sometimes, trying to understand where and how to navigate your way to next. Sounds like you’re making some steady progress though 👍.
Any idea on what you may play once Control is complete?
@colonelkilgore Return of the Obra Dinn, without question. What are you onto next after GoT?
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@TheBrandedSwordsman cool, I’ve heard that’s pretty great. I picked it up in a sale a while back but not sure when I’ll actually get around to it.
Once I’ve finished Ghost, I’m gonna try and get Doom, Tekken 7 and the original Watch Dogs out of the backlog. Really looking forward to Doom. Quite a few people showed love for it recently on another thread.
@colonelkilgore Yeah I saw it (RotOD) mentioned on another website in a list of games people are playing whilst waiting for Elden Ring, so I thought, since I'm in that boat, I'll give it a go, wish you all the best with Doom, looks like a great game.
"Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won’t see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you’ll miss the entire forest. Don't be preoccupied with a single spot. See everything in its entirety...effortlessly. That is what it means...to truly "see." "
@Th3solution@Jimmer-jammer - Update, cleared Threshold and My Brother's Keeper missions today, and spoke with Dylan before beginning the Face of the Enemy mission, which was disturbing to say the least, especially when he kept singing a song with "baby, baby" in the lyrics - in the voice of the Hiss, dunno if either of you remember that? haha , aim to have the game finished within a week or so, fingers crossed
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