Topic: The Trophy Discussion Thread

@oliverp well…

… that would officially be deemed as heresy within gaming circles 🤣. I wouldn’t know though as I haven’t played them (and I’m sure that you’re not completely alone on that… though probably in the minority is all).

Don’t know if you’ve played them but the PS4 remasters of Bayonetta and Vanquish are also held in high regard by character-action purists.

@colonelkilgore I’m so confused now how to label games anymore. I’m not sure I could differentiate a character-action from an action-adventure from a action-rpg from a western rpg from a souls-like from a narrative-action from a brawler from a…. Etc, etc.

@Th3solution I know buddy… I mean I do understand the sub-genres in my mind (somewhat anyway) but I do feel the accepted nomenclature really unhelpful… particularly in relation to ‘character-action’. I remember that people had problems with the term souls-like for the longest too… but those issues seem to have fallen to the wayside as time has passed.

I suppose the way that I personally pigeon-hole games of this type (that seem to fall under the action-adventure or action-rpg umbrellas) is down to the combat more than anything else. So… deliberate, stamina-based combat would tend to be a souls-like, while flashy and extremely quick hack and slash combat (particularly with air-juggles) would be character-action (we have to come up with a better name though) and anything in-between would likely be action-adventure. I dunno, seems the most logical way to me… but my mind works very differently to most peoples, as is made abundantly clear to me on a daily basis 😅

@LN78 lol… hell I just played that like a ‘Walking-sim’ if you get me 😉

@colonelkilgore Well I think its more a testament that I like Ninja Theorys version of game more then anything else. I really admire Ninja Theorys work on the game. I also think that maybe its a title that many may have unfortunately have missed due to the mix reviews the game first got. Its a really good game worth playing!

@oliverp I have it in my backlog as it goes bud… like I said I have no skin in the game as it were, just that I’ve seen the hate it gets from the Devil May Cry purists. We’re all free to enjoy exactly what it is that we individually enjoy… hell I enjoy Ubisoft games for my sins 😅

@RogerRoger @colonelkilgore @oliverp Speaking of Platinum’s other games like MGR, Vanquish, and Bayonetta - shout out to Nier Automata. It’s more rpg-ish I think, but has that action-y combat that is so flashy and fun.

@Th3solution good shout, one of my favourite games from the PS4 generation for sure. Absolutely beautiful for the eyes and ears (& mind)… and playable as all hell!

I’m a bit late to the MGS discussion, but what are the odds of MGS1 on PS + premium with trophies, someday? Of all the games in the series 1 still takes the cake and I would love to platinum it. I replay it almost every year on my Vita. I don’t think we’ll ever see the much requested remake, which is odd because that would be a slam dunk for Konami.

@RogerRoger Aside from the excellent gameplay and graphics I find the story interesting at times. I'm not sure how many people know that Metal Gear Rising is the game that end the Metal Gear saga chronology. Without knowing for sure of course I guess many people think that MGS4 is the last game in saga story wise. If remake would happen I think I would personally find a remake of MSG4 as the maybe the most interesting prospect as that game have never got any remake and because the prospects to see the environments of that game in 4k seems interesting to say the least hehe. A remake of any kind would probably have a massive trophy list (I dare not to trust the remake rumors just yet)..

@RogerRoger @Mr_B021 @oliverp It really is difficult to understand the method to the PS+ Premium madness. Curiously, you could look at the 20 games included in the crash-and-burn PlayStation Classic:

Battle Arena Toshinden
Cool Boarders 2
Destruction Derby
Final Fantasy VII
Grand Theft Auto
Intelligent Qube
Jumping Flash
Metal Gear Solid
Mr Driller
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Rayman
Resident Evil Director’s Cut
Revelations: Persona
Ridge Racer Type 4
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Syphon Filter
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Twisted Metal
Wild Arms

…and prevailing logic would be that these games are prime candidates to be included in the PS+ Premium catalog because at one point Sony felt they were important enough to put on that failed little experiment of a console. Presumably there was already some kind of negotiations and work done to get those games resurrected back in 2018.

And some have been carried over — like Wild Arms, Intelligent Cube, Mr. Driller, Syphon Filter, and Oddworld. But big names like MGS, Twisted Metal, and Persona have been omitted.

So perhaps trophy support is the obstacle? But the more logical reason seems like it’s because pending remakes are in process since Twisted Metal is all but confirmed I think and Persona is dipping back into its older games for remastered releases. But then you have a game like Shatter which was given out on PS+P and then promptly had a PS4/PS5 Remake recently released.

So what’s the deal with MGS? Who knows.

@Th3solution I totally forgot about the PlayStation classic. I suppose the bottleneck is trophy support and licensing issues. It is one thing to licence a game for a one time retail unit like the classic compared to a long term licensing deal for a streaming platform. I just hope that someday we can enjoy the entire MGS series on one future proof system 🤞🏼The PS3 came close.

#151 Jydge (PS5)
Already had the platinum from whenever I played the PS4 version, give me a free PS5 upgrade with a new trophy list and a reason to do it all over again. Thank you 10tons. I like this game.

#345 The Council - Great timing on this one, because it's leaving PS Plus in a couple of days. An interesting mix between point & click and RPG features, it looks and sounds a bit cheap but the characters and the story are engaging.

@sorteddan @Cornaboyzzz congrats on the recent plats guys, I have Jydge knocking around the backlog as it goes, haven’t heard of The Council though… might have to check it out.

@colonelkilgore
Thank you.
And then I hope you enjoy it as much as I do I you ever get around to it.
I'll probably have to wait for the PS6 version and then do it all again.

I managed to get the platinum for Elden Ring, first one since January last year. Fun game, can't wait to see what they do with the new Armored Core.

@LieutenantFatman congrats buddy, thought it’d been a while since I’ve seen you in here.

@sorteddan @Cornaboyzzz @LieutenantFatman Congrats for your latest platinums. Fatman, it feels like a lifetime ago I got that platinum myself but a good one for the collection.

@colonelkilgore @render
Thanks! Yes, took about 6 months or so off from playing video games. Was a first for me but felt good for doing it.