@RogerRoger good advice, cheers Rog. It’s a weird one as once the major symptoms clear up you just assume that you’re basically better (or thereabouts)… but the moment your pushed/challenged you’re hit like a ton of bricks.
@ThereThere I'm currently finishing Final Fantasy IX but I gave up on the platinum a while ago. Who had the idea of putting a trophy like the 1000 jumps at the jump rope ??? It doesn't make any sense to me. And if it wasn't enough, there is another one where you need to kill 10 000 enemies. I'm not even sure you would kill more than 1000 enemies in an average playthrough. It doesn't add anything to the game, it's just a waste of time, and I hate that.
I'm pretty upset with this one because Final Fantasy IX is my favorite game of all time, and this platinum would've meant a lot to me, but I'm just enjoying the game and that's what counts. So the next one should be Hitman 3, I'm halfway through the game right now.
@ThereThere I mean, you could farm the 10 000 enemies little by little, yep, but the jump rope minigame is absurdly hard. You need to jump 1000 consecutive times without missing a single jump, and the timing changes regularly. No thanks !
The Hitman trilogy is absolutely incredible, you should definitely try it !
and just popped number 126 with Shadow Warrior 3.
Short enough to not start to grind. Fun enough FPS with lots owing to Doom reboots. Had to go back to a few levels for upgrade collectibles but still done in around 9 hours.
“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
@sorteddan congrats boss, I got this in the backlog for a rainy day (a rainy day when I’m fancying some FPS action 😉)… so it’s good to know that it fairly painless. Well done dude
@ThereThere It's a bit higher than it should, because some people were using some kind of script with remote play to get this. But I'm not going there.
Also snuck in #127 last night with: Flatland Prologue (PS4) but no congratulations necessary for this one, picked it up for around 30p in recent sale, took just under an hour for all trophies. Meh.
“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
Hi guys, I need some advice. Basically I'm an avid trophy hunter and it has to be something extreme for me not to attempt it (Mein Leben on Wolfenstein for example).
Recently started a game called Aggelos and been playing through it on hard mode. It's an infuriating side scroller where persistence has gotten me through about 3/4 of it. Now I'm stuck on what I think is a very cheaply made level which was just designed to crush your soul and is just plain unfair.
Your armour may as well be made of paper and the only reason to upgrade your weapon is because it'll kill the enemies one hit sooner than the last. I'm trying to use a shortcut (which I've deemed the only way to get through the rest of the game without putting a controller shaped hole through my TV).
Do you guys honestly think in these scenarios it's worth it to keep going and try for the plat or is there a time when you should just tell the Devs to f**k off for making a game which is so hard I'm amazed it got through play testing?
FYI I have done some tough plats in the past such as Titan Souls so I don't consider myself unskilled at games but just wondering if this is the game which has finally beaten me.
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials. – Seneca
@The_Moose
If it's getting to the point where it's aggravating you then you should at least take a break from it. You will know there is a great sense of accomplishment from overcoming such challenges, especially the ones that nearly break you but sometimes you need to leave to go back.
Forget it. Go play something you will enjoy. If, after a time away, you feel like returning to have another crack at it then read up all advice/tips, watch the vids, check trophy guides etc. before you do. You can be sure that if you're struggling with it then so have many others before you and they may have the tips you need.
Remember that gaming, and trophy hunting, is a hobby or pastime we do because we enjoy it. If you're not enjoying it - stop doing it!
That's what I think anyhow.
(I have given up on games at 98% and one trophy away from completion because they had me in a similar mental state. And I don't regret it at all.)
“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
@The_Moose I find it hard to give up on things myself. I have a couple of things which I just felt I had to ‘park’ for a while as my time is just too precious… but they still eat away at me.
I think both persistence and the ability to move on are both strengths in different ways… sounds like starting something else could be a good idea in your current situation though.
@colonelkilgore It's always my problem where I'll focus on one game and if it's like this one just get burnout. I stay focused on one usually to get better at it but I'll take a break and return to it another day.
Once it's done I will never ever play it again but the plat will be so worth it haha.
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials. – Seneca
@The_Moose well good luck with chasing that one down… those ones that cause the most frustration definitely result in even more dopamine when they pop 😉
@The_Moose in January 2016, I started playing a little game called Aqua Kitty. Within a week I had every trophy but one. The last one required surviving for 20 rounds in essentially an RNG bullet hell. You'd get only one or two upgrades to help, but 90% of the time it's something useless. I'd barely ever make it past like round 7 or 8, so not even close.
After trying for a while I ended up playing some other games. I'd come back every and now then for maybe a couple weeks, every time thinking this trophy is simply impossible. Eventually I decided to switch from playing the PS4 version to Vita, to kind of force a different style of playing.
Giving it a go every couple days to weeks eventually turned into every couple months, then probably a year or more went by without me playing. But every time I used my Vita, the game was right there, pinned to the home screen, taunting me, much like RogerRoger suggested of leaving it installed.
Finally, one evening in September 2020, 4.5 years after earning all but one trophy, I picked up the game again. I think it had been more than a year since I'd last played. After only a couple tries I finally got the last trophy. Oh yeah, the game doesn't even have a platinum by the way, all that for just a single bronze trophy.
I've finished 685 of 700 games, so I may have a similar play style to you in that I almost always stick it out no matter how grindy, tedious, bad, or hard a trophy is. There's only 3 of my 700 played games that I don't think I'll ever finish because they're too hard, but this one was different, I kept coming back because I always felt if the stars aligned just right, I might somehow pull out a miracle.
So the moral is, if you think you can beat it, you've got the skill but you just need things to go right, then you definitely can beat it. But you don't have to right now. Play some other games and come back later with a fresh perspective. It might take some time, years even, but the game isn't going anywhere, you can beat it eventually.
@RogerRoger Some perspective from a 'Platinum Rookie' here...!
So I only have 4 x Plats to my name:
Returnal (inc. DLC trophies) / DeS / GoT (inc. Iki Island trophies) / Elden Ring
IMO, I think that attainment of a Platinum should definitely involve going 'above and beyond' a base game/experience... but not involve anything too time-consuming or obnoxious (ie collect 20,000 of these items scattered in remote corners of an open-world map)
I actually think FS did a great job with the Elden Ring trophies, whereby you could scoop the majority through the base game but you need to go a little further to get the remainders. Also only having 1-2 'missable' trophies is a pro.
GoT did a good job also, especially in that it only needed you to collect 'enough' collectables instead of every single one.
DeS was outrageously obtuse for me. I honestly don't know how any normal human being would attain all the trophies without following a guide from day #1, which I suppose then feels a bit like you're not 'playing the game'.... I think FS really learnt a lesson here, and the trophy-scope for Elden Ring was so much better.
So in summary - I think there is a very fine line between asking players to 'go the extra mile' vs obnoxious busy work! Currently working on the platinum for Nioh, I'm expecting some grind towards the end (weapon proficiencies, finding all kodamas etc) but I am enjoying it so much that I don't think this will be a chore.
@RogerRoger Well the game in question has 2.5% on the plat and I'm very surprised at that, relatively speaking I think it's quite high. Either the people who play this are very dedicated or I'm just saying it's way harder than it actually is.
It's a tiny game so I can leave it installed.
The only games I permanently walked away from were Dead Space 3 because 1. It was a mess and 2. There were MP trophies for a game which nobody played anymore. I also walked away from ME3, not because I didn't like it (it was my favourite of the 3 games), but again there was MP trophies and I had serious burnout after blasting through all of them. I'll plat all 3 when I do the Legendary Edition another day. Also Max Payne 3 on NYMHC mode when on the 2nd last level and 3 hours without a break the game crashed and it was known to happen on that level so screw you R*!
It pained me to walk away but it had to be done to all of them. My time was just too important and I had plenty more to play where I'd be more productive.
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials. – Seneca
@Milktastrophe Aqua Kitty! The name itself sounds like it should be so easy but they can be deceptive.
Sounds like I'm at a similar stage as you were to be honest. I played a little more last night and made some progress but see how I feel when I run into the next roadblock. It's just demoralising when it's every 2 mins.
It's artificially hard if that makes sense.
Out of curiosity what were the three games you deemed too hard?
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