Topic: The Last Of Us Part II - OT (No Spoilers)

@andreoni79 I looked at more detailed reviews on YT and most are 6/10.

Not the screeching ones but the ones that go through every major aspect in the game and put a score on it. And the end is the average of all scores.

However most people go for either 0/10 or 10/10 which both are impossible.

@Zuljaras I'm sincerely curious to read those reviews once I've finished the game. I'll finally understand what's wrong with me and most of the regulars here on Pushsquare.
In the meantime I keep playing it, envying those who rated it 9 or 10 since now they are having fun with the Naughty Dogs' bribes!

I agree that 0 is impossible. The game isn't a bug-riddled unplayable mess. From a technical perspective it's impressive. But I don't see why people can't score it a 10 if they want to. If they enjoyed the story as well, go for it I'd say. Story is subjective anyway.

@Octane Well it is ALL a personal opinions. People may score it as they want to. The reviews are there to advise you if you should give your 60$ for the game. On the other hand the 0/10 vs 10/10 war is hilarious.

Did you read the news that in some stores they refuse to return the game one day after the purchase? I have no idea why.

After all it is a sequel and 95% of the players probably loved the first one and that is why they bought the second one. Just like Pokemon it relies on its name more than anything.

@Zuljaras Most stores that I know of will only accept returns if there is something physically wrong with the game, like a scratched disk or something. Unless consumer laws have changed. Most sensible people would have done their research about the game beforehand if they were that worried about spending money on a game. It is just tough luck otherwise, I've bought plenty of games I've bought full price and did not like and did not expect to get a refund.

@JohnnyShoulder A year ago the stores here accepted games if you got the wrong version. Many parents buy PS game for the Xbox as they do not know the difference

Also some stores would give you part of the price back if the game came with DLC code paper inside as they could not check if the code is used.

Now it is only possible if you did not remove the plastic wrap of the game.

The problem with this situation is probably that people claimed false advertisement. But in that case they should try legal actions because the store has nothing to do with that.

If people are claiming false advertisement, they can do the same for literally every big budget movie out there. Almost every Marvel and DC film add scenes in the trailers to throw people off from the twists, since they know that with the expectations, crazy fans will try and guess everything before it comes out. Literally why bother getting annoyed about ‘fake trailers’, it’s just silly.

The false advertising claims are funny, but I do think there's a question and talking point there. How accurate do game trailers need to be?

It always gets spoken about when a game doesn't perform as well as a trailer or gameplay reveal, or if puddles are graphically downgraded after release.

Maybe soon we'll get a PS soapbox on this. I think it's quite an interesting discussion

@roe I dunno. I'm pretty certain that all the trailers we've seen are in the game, except for the announcement trailer perhaps. The gameplay demos are literally sections from the game, so I don't understand why people say it's false advertising.

@Octane Probably because most people expected to play as certain characters. Which is not the case.

I know it is the decision of the writers but still the people upset are not vocal minority but a vocal majority.

Still we will forget about the whole thing in about 2-3 weeks just like with other games.

@Zuljaras Lmao, vocal majority. No. Even if you look at a small sample size like Push Square, there are more people who enjoyed the game than didn’t. The ones that didn’t spammed the comments of the articles with about 30 comments each, repeating the same arguments over and over.

@nessisonett I guess it depends where you look. From my point of view it is not like that outside of this site.

I think it is around 50/50 or 60/40 (the first is the people who liked it) which is a good thing.

Are people really pretending to have their money back only because the story is different from what they imagined after seeing some trailers?
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@Octane there's a pretty significant alteration to one of the trailers. Like I say, I'm not agreeing with the outrage here, but I do see where they're coming from.

@KratosMD What’s happening is that the loudest voices are drowning out any discussion. YouTube has always had problems with negativity spreading way faster than anything else. Reddit on the other hand has had a hugely positive response to TLOU2, with most negativity drowned out by thousands of positive posts about how much people liked the game. There was a concerted attempt to sink the game before it even came out, just look at how many ‘leaks’ were proven to be false. First it was that the game focused on killing homophobic Christians, then Abby was trans, then Anita Sarkeesian worked on it, then Neil Druckmann was scanned and mocapped, then they paid for all those reviews. None of that was true but it spread among a group of people who made it their life’s work to sink the game. The review bombing just proved it.

@KratosMD Fextralife game one of the best reviews of this game.

@nessisonett But those leaks/rumors are not the reason so many people do not like it. All people that I have watched are not liking it after finishing the game they bought. Creating safe bubbles is not good.

"None of that was true but it spread among a group of people who made it their life’s work to sink the game." This is some conspiracy stuff right there. Look at things without bias.

Just watch the Fextralife review. It is good and it gave the game 5.8.

I too do not understand the 0/10 so we can all agree on that.

@KratosMD If what's wrong with the game is related only to the story, those who are actually playing the game obviously don't want to have it spoiled.
I'm 15 hours in and all I can say is that the game is technically wonderful, the controls work perfectly, the AI is great, the voice acting is excellent and the story so far is very good. Even if I'll find out that Ellie is a reptilian sent to definitely destroy planet Earth or an android coming from the future to save it with her superpowers, the game will still deserve a positive vote thanks to all its other merits.

@andreoni79 It'll get an extra point from me if Ellie is a extraterrestrial lizard

@KratosMD Thanks for avoiding spoilers!
@Octane Imagine if Naughty Dogs start releasing post-game content just to make fun of all this mess! YOu could assign Joel skin to Ellie's character, so you can play as the old hero; then you realize he'd a love story with Dina, so you assign a female clicker to Dina's characters; then you realize the clicker dialogues line are not so good...

@andreoni79 I'd pay for that. The Last of Us: An Unfortunate Romance; Joel meets a clicker.