@Kidfried The upgrade tree was a good idea, but the rest of it didn’t do much for the game. In a avane like that the developers need to keep control over the difficulty rather than give it to numbers like they did. It’s really easy to overlevel in that game.
I actually like RPGs that have a level system like Borderlands, or the Assassin's Creed games now or even Diablo it gives me a sense of my character getting stronger as oppose to games like Breath of the Wild where there is no level system. That was one of my biggest problems with Breath of the Wild and why I didn't enjoy the game at all no sense of progression. I could literally start the game and go straight to Ganon and beat him. Where as something like say Assassin's Creed game each area you have to be a certain level to go to and can't just go straight to the end.
However the problem with level based game, which I have ran into particularly when I played WoW is if you are very thorough player and one of those that have to do every side quest in an area before moving to the next like I do, then you quickly can accidently becoming to powerful and out level stuff making epic fights and such feel less epic.
It's just like the old days of RPGs on the SNES when you got to a particular boss and couldn't get pass them what did most of us do, go and grind levels by just doing random encounters. I remember hearing somewhere, probably on the playground at school that in order to beat Kefka in Final Fantasy III (VI) on SNES you had to be level 99 so I did that and when I took him on he was too easy and I beat him no problem 😂.
Nowadays RPG developers add side quests and such so you don't have to spend hours grinding random battles over and over but as I said you can end up quickly over leveling. I did that with Assassin's Creed Origins in fact but again it's cause I am a completionist when it comes to RPGs so I can definitely see where @Jaz007 is coming from
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@Tasuki Personally I think TW3 trounces over Dragon Age Inquisition in every department. I never completed DAI as I played TW3 after and that killed the former off for me. The side quests in DAI were so dull and most things felt like a chore to do. Like going back to base to update stuff, who thought that was a good idea? In contrast to TW3 where the side quests felt so organic to the main game and are better that some main quests in other games. It is a credit to the games that other series have tried to copy it (Assassin's Creed) yet still not better it imo.
I don't quite get the criticism of the levelling system, it felt perfectly fine for me. Sure there is a danger of being overpowered, just like in every other open world RPG with a similar system. But there are enough warnings in the game to help with this, and I much prefer it that way to the enemies levelling up with you.
I finished TW3 before they introduced enemy level scaling which was quite a shock when I came back to the game for the DLC; packs of wolves I previously would have one-hitted now ruined me. It was definitely for the better though.
Also @Tasuki be sure to pick up all the free DLC for the game. Some of it was simply cosmetic (bonus haircuts, alt costumes etc) but some more cooler like added finishing moves, more Gwent cards. Even more impressively, entire new missions were added and some of these were among my favourites.
The paid DLC is also better than most games but playing the base game plus all that might take you through to 2020.
@Thrillho Playing Hearts of Stone during the main campaign is definitely recommended though. And I think that you'll have a harder time finding a vanilla copy of TW3, aren't most copies the GOTY edition at this point, even the digital ones?
@Tasuki I had completely forgot about Kingdoms of Amalur. That’s also a very good game. I quite enjoyed it. 8/10. Good choice.
I’m excited to hear how you like the legendary Witcher 3.
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@Tasuki I'm interested to hear what you think of Kingdoms of Amular. The story was great, being written by the talented writer R.A. Salvatore. The combat was so so, but the writing and world made up for it. I liked the idea of playing in a world during the time of great legendary stories, not a millennia later and hearing about them second hand. For example, the elves were around and doing well, not a society that disappeared or was a shadow of its past.
Witcher 3 is great too of course, but that is well known. For me, I'm looking forward to my next rpg Nier or Kingdomcome Deliverance whichever goes on a psn sale first.
I'm thinking of picking up something that I can also play with my PSVR. Getting both versions of Driveclub is actually a little cheaper than GTS. All of them have mixed reviews it seems. I'm mainly looking for a game that has a bunch of offline content. So no always-online, because the internet can be a fickle over here; and I simply don't really care about playing against strangers online.
The Council and Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice are currently €15 each in the store. Is that a good price? Worth it for someone who enjoys story-heavy games with, honestly, minimal combat challenge? Good ports? I can deal with clunky game mechanics as long as they don't interfere with the meat of the game.
@Tjuz Not sure about The Council, but hellblade was a timed exclusive for ps4 so was defo made for consoles in mind, so it wasn't even ported over or anything.
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Those were my thoughts after just playing the first episode. Subsequently I have played the second episode (I think there are 5 total episodes, each probably about 3-4 hours in length, give or take) and started the third. I pretty much stand by my initial thoughts there however. Approx. 6/10 type of quality, but that would probably elevate for you specifically if you are a fan of the genre - story driven, no combat, choice-and-consequence, etc. And if you like historical time period pieces, then you’ll like it even more. As I say in my other post on the link, the RPGish elements are quite well conceived and innovative for a story adventure game, but the mechanics of movement and navigating the world is a little, as you say, “clunky” for sure.
I eventually found a review online of all the episodes (it was surprisingly difficult to find as most outlets only reviewed episode 1, like Push Square did) and it seems the first and last episodes are stronger than the middle ones. Alas, the fact that now 3 months later I still haven’t finished the whole series may be telling. I fully intend to, but I got side tracked by other games.
As for Hellblade — you and I must be on the same wavelength because I bought it on sale a long time ago and it has sat in my backlog for a while and just this past weekend I downloaded it to my hard drive thinking that it’s about time I played it. I was deliberating on whether to finish The Council, starts Hellblade, or try something new. And almost as if I flipped a coin in my head and then ignored the result — I clicked on Transistor as an impulse play instead. But between Hellblade and The Council, I think the former is likely to be a more polished and solid title, having won GOTY honors in some outlets and being so critically acclaimed. I think for that price, both games are probably worth a go.
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@RogerRoger I have the platinums and they are good no nonsense head set which work exactly the same as the 2.0 headphones (which were also my old pair). I notice the the sound quality was better with the platinums. One minus is that they don't seem to update as often with the different game preset as the 2.0s.
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@JohnnyShoulder@Th3solution Thanks (and sorry for the late reply) to you both! Keeping what both of you said in mind I decided to buy both games. I have yet to try either of them (as I have been distracted by BioShock), but I'm sure I'll get to them soon enough!
@TG77 Yeah, there are a lot of options. Here are some really good games, depending what you like....
Are you looking for a —
Zen experience? Journey. Abzu. Flower.
Puzzle game? Fez. The Witness is supposed to be awesome, haven’t played it yet personally.
Puzzle and Zen experience? Tetris Effect for sure.
Racing? I liked OnRush recently and can recommend it. Haven’t played many racing games.
Story / Walking Sims / Choice based? What Remains of Edith Finch. Firewatch. Life is Strange. Oxenfree. Detroit: Become Human. Virginia.
Platformer? I’m not much of a platformer player, but I really liked Inside and Limbo. I know there are many more
Music games? Playing Persona 4 Dancing All Night right now and it’s fun.
Sports?
Simulation?
RTS?
I could keep going. If you narrow it down I might be able to be more specific.
@Th3solution thanks for the advice. Anything that involves a bit of a quest / adventure, I don't mind controlling a battle just don't want to do the actual hacking and slashing.
@TG77 If you don’t mind controlling a battle through giving commands and you want a grand adventure/quest then maybe a traditional turn based rpg, especially JRPGs favor the turn based combat instead of the action combat. Final Fantasy XII, the remaster on PS4 called Zodiac Age, is good for just a game where battles involve issuing commands and there is a gambit system where you can actually program the party members AI on what circumstances to attack, cast magic, heal, etc and once you have gambits set up how you like it the battles pretty much fight themselves with minimal input from you. It’s actually pretty fun but takes some getting used to. It’s more strategy based approach to combat rather than quick reflex button mashing. Other turn based RPGs might suit you too, Dragon Quest 11 is supposed to be good, but I can’t vouch for it having not played it. Persona 5 is also turn based, and dungeons have multiple enemy encounters but combat is turn based rather than hack and slash. Also Trails of Cold Steel which re-release just came out for PS4 is turn based RPG. So if a long rpg adventure sounds good then look into those.
Stardew Valley is a good shout from @Frigate and people say it’s a pretty laid back addictive game. I haven’t played it.
And yeah, if you want more story and quick-time-events for any combat scenes, then the Quantic Dreams game’s are great. I loved Detroit, but Heavy Rain is really good too. Very story heavy though, rather than explore the world and go on quests.
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Don't suppose anyone here has played Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth or more so it's sequel Hacker's Memory?
I've already looked it up myself (Multiple reviews and some gameplay) and am already intrigued by it, especially as there aren't many Pokémon-esque style games on PS4 and a lack of more traditional turn based games this gen too.
Not to mention it's available for a mere tenner...
... Any input/recommendations for it would be nice!
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