@Th3solution Oh I've played every AC game to this point except for Valhalla. Just waiting until I can get my hands on a PS5 before I try that one. While I've enjoyed all of the AC games, the direction switch with Origins was a big hit with me, and like I said, Odyssey is just a masterpiece in every way. For me, it is the absolute template for what a single character game should be. On that note, I'm a huge fan of party based RPGs, but those are extremely hard to come by these days. I waited to jump from the PS3 to the PS4 for Dragon Age Inquisition, and it was a wonderful game right at the start of the PS4's lifecycle. But ever since then, very little has come close to it, and those that have have been AA level imitations. Its a real bummer.
And as to RDR, its not that I dislike a slow pace, because that doesn't bother me at all. It was more the lack of much of anything to do at all that struck me. I never liked a single character in the game either, so that didn't help.
And while I do often take the hero route, that's not absolutely necessary for me. I can play a character that's morally questionable, as long as their reasoning has logic. But I have zero interest in playing someone who's flat out evil, or who hurts others just for fun. And anything that comes close to torture or mutilation is WAY out of bounds for me, even if its off screen.
@Unlucky13 I can also recommend the Yakuza series! While the main characters may be part of the criminal underworld, the games are almost hilariously moral with human traffickers suddenly turning themselves in and promising to go straight once Kiryu has beaten them up
Kiryu, the main protagonist, may be a high flyer in the Yakuza world but he is all about loyalty and looking after his own and his almost the conscience of the Tojo clan.
And they are certainly not short games. Looking at the time played via the PS5, it clocks in at;
@Thrillho Good to hear that Kiryu keeps his grounded and “everyday hero’ approach. I figured based on Y0 that he was going to be that type of character throughout, but I know people say Majima has a large change in character personality from zero to Kiwami, so I wasn’t sure.
@Unlucky13 Dragon’s Dogma comes to mind, if you’ve not played that. It has a PS4 remaster, but I played it on PS3 and loved that game. If open-world fantasy-based RPG appeals to you, it’s a great one. Not quite party based like Dragon Age Inquisition (which speaking of DA:I, by the way, just like Witcher 3 for me, was just too long to complete 😅. But I did make it to the latter third. Probably sunk 80 hours in before abandoning), but the pawn system is like having extra party members and is a brilliant mechanic that I would like to see done again.
Also, do you have any interest in Divinity Original Sin? There are two games on PS4. Most argue that the sequel is the better, but the first game has its supporters too. I’ve not played either but I did pick up DOS2 on sale and it’s stuck in my backlog for a rainy day. It’s supposedly a game that clocks north of 100 hours and I think is party-based, turn-based fantasy with reports of fantastic writing and oodles of content.
@Th3solution The isometric viewpoint is a HUGE turnoff for me for Divinity. Makes it look a lot more like a RTS game than a RPG. I've read reviews and watched videos, and its not for me. I strongly prefer a standard third person perspective.
@Unlucky13 Ah, gotcha. I can see that. I’ve never been much of a fan of that perspective, but I honestly don’t have a lot of experience with it, so I might try DOS if I ever get the time.
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@Unlucky13@Th3solution I did try Divinity: Original Sin 2 a while back but I just couldn’t get into it. The viewpoint was one thing that I wasn’t overly keen on but the combat didn’t appeal either. Having said that though, the world and characters did strike a chord and I’ve had a nagging feeling ever since uninstalling it that I should go back and give it another go.
Also, Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen has been knocking around my backlog for ages, it looks awesome... in an obscure hidden gem kinda way... I must find a way to get it into the schedule. Same goes for Dragon Age: Inquisition, picked up the complete edition years ago and it looks right up my street... but I just don’t know how I’ll find the time. If only twitch would offer me millions to quit my job and start streaming my backlog exploits!
I loved the game as the combat get so fantastic and climbing on the mythical beast enemies was a really cool feature. I liked the relatively small map and the day/night cycle really made it feel scary to go out in the dark!
The pawn system worked well with your little NPC sidekick being quite handy and being able to recruit others online was a good touch too.
That said, the script and voice acting were so bad. I managed to see it as just being horrendously cheesy but it could put some people off.
Slightly off topic regarding Dragon Age Inquisition as well. In its day, it had in my opinion the absolute best character creator I've ever seen. Nothing else came close to what you could accomplish with it, and gamers would share what they had done in the forums all the time. I have still not played an offline, single player game since then that can match it.
It is also the only game with lifelike, realistic graphics I've ever played where you can craft a variety of gear for all of your different companions, and the looks and colors of that gear then show up in game when you play. Its very depressing that here we are seven years later at the end of the PS4's lifecycle and no one else has managed to do what I thought would become commonplace after they showed it.
@Thrillho Yes, DD is underrated I think. I think some of the dialogue and narrative quirks stem from the fact it’s a Japanese developer and some things are lost in translation and the high fantasy expectations are a little different East vs West. But otherwise I really enjoyed the gameplay and world exploration
@Unlucky13 Very true on the character creator. I love a good character creator!
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@RogerRoger I wonder if the character creator in the ME Legendary Edition is more intricate than the original version. I remember spending quite a bit of time creating a Shepherd that looked like me, only to see that the in-game rendition of my Frankenstein was relatively unsettling.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@RogerRoger My first character in Inquisition wasn't anything special. I tried to make him look like myself, and the end result was fine. But the hilarious part was that there's a minor NPC you meet about 75% through the game who looked EXACTLY like him, and it made me laugh so hard that I inavertantly created a clone.
My second time through, with all of the DLC, I decided to make a female archer and put a lot of time into it to get her just right, and I was really pleased with the results. Combined with the superb lip synch software that they use and the excellent voice acting, and I felt like I had a really cool Pixar character the whole time. I'd love to be able to import her into DA4 if that were possible, should the inquisitor be a friend of the protagonist.
@RogerRoger It really depends on the game and how good the character creator is. I've found that sometimes its not just worth the effort, and most of what I can create looks a lot worse than what the game comes with. Ideally, I really want to create my own and have them be unique. But you've got to work with the tools available.
With DA2, I felt that the female options were really limited and lacking. But that was so really weird, because some of the women NPCs in the game were among the most attractive I'd seen in a video game at that point! You would think that there would be a connection between the two systems, but apparently that wasn't the case. I think that they really wanted the female Hawk to be rough and tumble and kind of railroaded the player to that end.
On a slightly different note, what an amazing year 2011 was on the PS3! Dragon Age 2, though a very good game, wasn't even close to being the best game from Bioware that year on the system, because Mass Effect 2 is one of the greatest games ever to be made, IMO.
And then you have Skyrim, another of the best games ever. Uncharted 3, Little Big Planet 2 and AC3, which were also phenomenal games. Maybe one of the best single years in gaming ever.
While I am still playing through Biomutant, a lighter game on the side would be welcome. I am thinking of getting Untitled Goose Game, which is on sale atm, has anyone played this? is it any good or does it get boring quite fast? Sounds quite innovative and entertaining to me.
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I’ve been playing The Elder Scrolls Online and if you love Skyrim and want more Elder Scrolls, this does a good job of filling the gap until the sixth game comes out. I’ve been playing it as a single player game and I sometimes forget it’s online until I bump into another player going about their business.
I actually bought it physically two weeks ago @Arugula...
I never got to play much though as the copy I bought just straight up didn't work after I'd patched it and even when I didn't it patch wasn't loading the game properly.
Somehow Pathfinder seemed to have shipped with disc read errors for some people? (I didn't look for that beforehand as I wouldn't have thought that was a thing) Disc nearly got stuck inside the PS4 and it was making awful clunking sounds 😧
... I have got the digital version now though.
I've not made much progress though so I unfortunately can't give much (At least for me) of an answer.
The digital version works fine so far btw (It was kickstarted for only a million or so dollars (and was the developer's first game) so I can only assume it has a few, hopefully minor, bugs or visual oddities crawling around still)
It's a LOT more in depth with the character creation then Divinity Original Sin 2 for example with it greatly resembling the pen & paper/tabletop roots it has with a ridiculous amount of skills & spells, classes and the likes... You even set your character's starting allignment. You could very easily get overwhelmed here.
Combat/ability checks also uses dice rolls/RNG so you can have a fair few misses or fails. I appreciate the inclusion of a turn based combat mode option it has compared to the realtime with pause combat like Baldur's gate that it had.
There are a slew of different options for the difficulty though and I'm pretty sure you can tweak it as you go?
Characters seem to be well written and pretty interesting though the voice acting's hit and miss and upon getting past the opening hour not everything is voice acted either unlike DOS 2 so there's a fair bit of reading that might turn you off as well.
My choices have mattered for dialogue options so far with the opening. Being pretty vague here but I thought it was rather well done with how your initial party is formed.
... Hope that helps somewhat? I'll try to keep you updated if you like? Might take a while though... I only played the opening/prologue last night just to make sure it actually worked after my woes with the physical version
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@Kidfried Really good game, I reccomend it without question. Genuinely surprised by how much I enjoyed and how much I ended up caring about the characters.
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@Kidfried Ditto to Johnny’s post there. Although I haven’t finished it, I really enjoyed it so far. i haven’t done much gaming the last couple weeks since I’ve been busy. I’m probably about half done with Plague Tale. I’ll let you know my final thoughts when I complete it though.
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@Kidfried And as my offering to the gaming gods this month — my being midway though my PS4 playthrough has now made it possible for a PS5 upgrade to be announced, and coming to PS Plus to boot! You can all thank me now for taking one for the team. 😜
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