Another highlight from Microsoft's extensive information leak is a document that reveals Bethesda's entire development and release schedule. The document itself is from 2020, which means that the information may no longer be accurate, but two titles still stick out: remasters of both The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion and Fallout 3.
The two Bethesda RPGs were fairly beloved back on the PS3 — when they weren't crashing, that is — and fans have been chasing the idea of remasters for years. The leaked schedule has Oblivion down for 2022 (whoops), and Fallout 3 down for 2024 — but you need to remember that this document is from a time when Bethesda was aiming to launch Starfield in 2021. Everything the developer had cooking ended up being pushed back.
In any case, you would assume these supposed remasters would be exclusive to Xbox and PC — although there have been instances in the past where Microsoft has allowed re-releases from its studios to release on PlayStation platforms. The PS4 version of Minecraft is one example, as is Skyrim Anniversary Edition, and The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition. We suppose there's a chance that a similar situation could arise with the return of Oblivion and Fallout 3.
Do you have fond memories of Oblivion and Fallout 3? Would you buy remastered versions? Watch that frame rate plummet in the comments section below.
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I can imagine these two being the most likely to come to PlayStation as they've released several other remasters on the platform.
At least, I'm hoping. I'd kill to play an Oblivion remaster.
@Loamy You'll be getting a visit from the Dark Brotherhood then.
Didn't Quake 2 also come to Playstation about a month ago? They seem to have been pretty consistent about existing games, so if anything I'd be surprised if these weren't released on Playstation
I want to like Oblivion but that game was even buggier than Skyrim. I remember being forced to spend one of my playthroughs as a vampire because the NPC that was supposed to help cure you was impossibly bugged. Maybe she died off screen like NPC were likely to do in that game? I don't even know...all I know was that I was stuck as a blood sucker with no way to escape my fate.
Wouldn't bet on these coming to Playstation.
Starfield didn't and future Betheseda games are most likely not going to either.
@ShogunRok "Your killing has been observed by forces unknown"
Wasn’t there a remake of oblivion with the Skyrim engine?
I assume they'll come to Playstation, as much as Xbox wants to push their subscription, it would be pretty dumb to leave PS money on the table.
I still wouldn't care if they came to Playstation. I always thought bethesda games were overhyped piece of trash and that Todd Howard is the biggest turd in the industry.
At least now people will get to experience all those glitches and bugs in 4K instead of 720p.
@carlos82
The difference, I think, is that Quake is a small scale release and keeping it console exclusive isn't going to make Xbox a more appealing platform for someone who isn't invested in their ecosystem already. Unless these were just simple 4k ports like RDR I think these might be big enough to keep on Xbox. Good remasters of games belonging to big IPs is a whole another thing compared to making small remasters of a previously dead IP which, according to leaks, isn't even getting a new game any time soon. I love the Quake remasters and Nightdive is amazing, but that's just reality.
F3 was OK, but I never really liked the real time combat or VATS. Oblivion was a travesty of an RPG with the worst levelling and scaling system ever invented. So not too bothered.
I would love a faithful remake of Morrowind however. Just without the Xbox bugs that lost mean 200+hrs.
@GigaGaia I still enjoy an old-school Bethesda RPG i.e. Fallout 3 or Oblivion/Skyrim, but anything post Fallout 76 with Todd Howard makes me very skeptical.
Bethesda is still releasing their remasters of the dooms and quake on PlayStation so that may still leave the door open for these two being released, but I never want to play oblivion or fallout 3 again so I have no ***** to give if it happens or not.
@ATaco I had that exact same thing happen to me. I had almost forgotten about it. God that was infuriating.
Or the murder investigation in Skyrim that you couldn't complete if a key NPC randomly died in a dragon attack at some point in the previous 70 hours. That one wrecked my head a bit too.
Sadly, this won't come to us, but I'm sure we will have many great rpgs to look forward too. The amazing games just keep coming.
Even if they were to come to playstation I still wouldn't buy them, I won't be giving a penny to Microsoft to help fund their consolidation.
Plus how many more remasters, remakes and ports are we going to get, that goes for Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and a lot of big third party developers. It's like the gaming market has gone stale and are running out of new ideas.
These have a legacy on other platforms like Quake. But given Quake is so small, imagine xbox was lying about legacy games going to playstation as well
@ATaco there was actually a small dlc on the Xbox 360 version that gave you a hideout where you could cure your own vampirism (off the top of my head thats how I remember it at least). I had the same issue as you but just bought that for like £1 and got a cool cave as a bonus 🤣
@gigagaia kind of silly to call something like Oblivion or Fallout 3 a “piece of trash”. You may not like them but they are very good video games and that is a massive disservice to call them that. There are pieces of trash out there and these aren’t it.
If true (the document was 3yrs or so old) they would come to PlayStation because they are hardly system sellers or new IP.
Plus it makes them more cash and can also say ‘look we do put games on PS’.
I’d certainly be surprised if they weren’t on PS and probably Nintendo too.
@K1LLEGAL they call it trash because they can’t play it. All rather childish.
@Bunchesopuppies its a mod , not a remake. so pretty much a team of modders is working on the skyblivion project.
@Netret0120 These would be legacy content, that is what would make sense to release on PS5. That is the only thing Microsoft said would still be multiplat, just look at Quake and Quake 2
Ok, at this point these articles are getting annoying. Bethesda are a Microsoft first party studio now. Of course whatever they do will be Xbox exclusive.
Or are you gonna start making threads on the Xbox sister site that Spiderman 2 isn't coming to Xbox?
It's time to move on from this topic. Those of us not gullible knew this was what was going to happen (and the same thing is gonna happen with activision blizz) and MS were being coy.
I don't want them to "remaster" fallout 3 because I'm scared they'll remove weapon holstering and turn the power armor into a clunky mech suit like they did in fallout 4
Since Skyrim's Anniversary Edition came to PS5, I guess it might be possible, but not holding my breath.
@ATaco Lmao me too. It was a bug existing on the Ps3 goty edition. The vanilla game did not have that issue for some reason
I think Fallout from Bethesda is highly overrated personally. Well PC is made for games like Oblivion and Skyrim for its modding.
Either way idc. The only studio I care about from Bethesda is Tango.
this article is pointless, i know about the remasters already but we are not going to get them, it's pointless hyping this up or getting excited over this, we are going to be left in the dust due to corp greed, that is that end of that
@Bunchesopuppies yes skyblivion and skymorrowind, "release date" of 2027 as a fun estimate 🙄 still not coming to consoles though, don't get too excited lol
Starfield has completely taken over my life right now ...Never gotten this into a Bethesda game for longer than an hour or two, so something hooked me this time. Sure, if you go in trying to take it seriously it becomes a cursed mannequin nightmare and a slog real fast, but if you just embrace its charming awfulness and mess around with the fossil of an engine they got, just exploring, grinding, building outposts and doing whatever you want, it's pretty sweet. A lot of it even looks quite nice, if you look past the 'humans' they got. Will probably check these out because of it lol
Whatever happened to the native PS5/XBSX versions of Fallout 4?
I could see this going either way. If it was just an HD port, it’s likely canceled given the BC 360 versions already run 4k on Xbox series x.
If it’s a port to a new engine, MS might see it as big enough of a revamp to lock it as an exclusive.
The Quake remasters were a gray middle area were they could not really be played on Xbox and were for the most part just ports with some fluff on top. But who knows.
I'd buy an Xbox for both of these games. My favorites back in the day.
While playing Skyrim on my PS4 I hoped Fallout 3, and or, NV would be next, and soon if it looked and played as well as Skyrim on my PS4. The backwards compatibility of the XBox may have kept that from happening.
Right now I am not counting on anything new, remastered, or remade coming to Playstation from Bugthesda, at least not at release.
On one Oblivion save file I left the Adoring Fan at the bottom of a river, that was like 12 years ago. I hope he forgives me. On one Fallout 3 save file I left Sticky at Point Lookout to guard Panada. He still wants to go to big town.
This is a banner day. I've been hoping, DREAMING of this for almost a decade. Every year at E3 I would carefully hope. I would cling to every rumor. There were times in my life I thought this was what I wanted most in the world, which just speaks to being a kid, but man- this would have meant everything to me at q different age. I still can't wait, and I'm so happy. The fact more people will be introduced to what are easily top 5 games of all time is just amazing. Games are special experiences, and I really equate this culturally to a new museum opening for millions to explore.
Quake 1 and Quake 2 remaster's came out on Playstation and Nintendo so I think these will come to Playstation and Nintendo eventually.
Future Bethesda games will be Xbox and PC exclusive but that doesn't mean older Bethesda games will be exclusive. Also iirc you can play Fallout 3 and maybe ES Oblivion via BC on Xbox so there is also that.
Is this “leak stuff” actually new? Cause me and my friends have been talking about the potential Oblivion remake for a while now that was leaked before Gamescom.
I was under the impression that any bethesda titles that had already been published on the playstation would still be released on the playstation. My understanding was any new ip's would be considered but not a given. I'd love to play oblivion again on my ps5 and fallout 3 was a really cool game as well. "But we wouldnt bet on them coming to playstation." There is a good chance they would launch on the playstation as pretty much every bethesda remaster have released (again titles that preceded the deal) or are pushsquare just choosing to ignore that fact for a bit of the old "bait them and they will come" attention?
Lol oblivion 16 hour game play sessions I was leaving one career for another at that time I learned fast save regularly and space out save time 2 hours ago an hour 10mins 5 mins few mins spacing. load up when a error hits there were a few lol. A dungeon if you gotten anywhere near it early game a part of a level wouldn't load up great times. Fallout 3 me and a mate played that. When I said I'm going shopping it was to clear out a merc camp and limp with all their gear that overweighted me to a camp to sell off lol.
I play these on PC still today mods and console commands , unlimited carry weight tgm "toggle god mode" max out the character and put the scale of the character your a giant just walking around. These games were sprinkled in with mass effect and gears of war fun times. Me and me mate will do a level each on these remasters! Please release on PS4 and 5 thank you.
Who knows if these are still coming? After all, this was their Road Map under Zenimax who maybe wanted to release 'remakes' after the success of Skyrim remake and 'failure' of Fallout 76.
They had Ghostwire and a Sequel mentioned, yet who knows if they want to make a Sequel or whether MS wants them to make a Sequel - especially after the success of HiFi Rush.
We know now that Arkane never wanted to make Redfall - not the style of game they were pushed to make by Zenimax, which changed under MS to be less monetised and wished MS would have cancelled it - they didn't thinking the game was 'nearly' ready to release - which would make sense based on that 'leaked' timeline.
Point is, that was what Zenimax management were 'expecting' their Studios to release over the coming years - before MS took over.
As for whether they would release 'remakes' of older ES/Fallout games on Playstation, I wouldn't rule it out. Morrowind and Oblivion both were 'exclusive' to Xbox at launch - but they do have a history on Playstation - unlike ES6 or Starfield. As these are unique Standalone games, not 'sequels', where you create your Character at the Start and doesn't carry across either, they could see these as individual games - and those with a 'history' on Playstation - Like Fallout 3-4, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are games they would sell on Playstation as these are 'not' new IP's.
MS said they would assess each on a Case by Case basis. As they own the Studios, the IP's, the Publishing rights etc, they have NO obligation to release anything on Playstation. As a PS owner, I don't expect anything from MS, just like you don't expect Sony to release anything on Xbox - although they do with MLB and Destiny content...
This list was before Microsoft acquired Bethesda so Microsoft likely cancelled the remasters completely as the games are already available on XB1/Series X|S via the backwards compatibility program.
The only XGS ports/remasters/remakes of games that came to the backwards compatibility program since the program was announced in June 2015 were:
Gears of War Ultimate Edition was probably in development before Microsoft chose to go down the backwards compatibility route and the 2 Halo games were when Microsoft became serious about PC gaming.
You can tell how much Microsoft is opposed to releasing ports/remasters/remakes of games already added to the backwards compatibility program by how those Marcus Fenix Collection rumours turned out fake despite 3 of the Gears games (2, 3, Judgment) not being on PC. I'd guess the strategy here is about xCloud as those 3 Gears games were added to xCloud in March 2021.
Oblivion? Fallout 3? I am on board IF these get remastered.
Had hours of fun with both on Ps3
@JalapenoSpiceLife nothing was stoppibg playstation pursuing oblivion for themselves like they did bungie, don't blame a company for expanding, blame the one you support for not making the right choices, or buy and supoort all consoles like me.
@edwinjoe450 microsoft don't exactly need the money, this is their tactic to bleed playstation of content and hemorrhage money in the process. It makes perfect sense from microsofts perspective.
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