The Vita was truly ahead of its time, but was handled poorly by Sony. Playing console quality games on the go was just too much for the thing. Then Sony just changed strategy with the Vita by advertising it as an accessory for the PS3 and PS4 rather than as its own device. Poor Vita, we hardly knew ye.
@NintendoFan4Lyf PC has proven to be a viable gaming platform since 1983, during the North American game crash. So it's not anything impressive with today since it's already the norm. And I know that technology advances pretty quickly, but not all devices can do everything perfectly. A phone is excellent at social elements, such as social media and of course to call. A handheld is the opposite of that. The PC is literally the only device that can literally do anything, but needs lots of horsepower to achieve it. Since a phone will always have limitations, it needs to focus on one thing.
@NintendoFan4Lyf Smartphones will never reach the power of a console. Current phones can barely run a PS2 game at medium settings. By the time a phone can play PS4 games, home consoles and even handhelds will be much more ahead.
And the thing is about smartphones is that it's a casual device. Looking at the top 10 apps and games on both App Store and Google Play, they're all free to play games like Candy Crush. You think a hardcore gamer will play a game like that? Of course not. A dedicated gaming device is much better to play games on than a smartphone. Casuals won't need it because they only play video games for a couple of minutes. Smartphones does that perfectly.
It's the first time that a Nintendo handheld didn't outsell its predecessor, and there are reasons why aside from the rise of smartphones. At the end, still did better than a lot of people expected. Why did it still sold decent even during the age of smartphones? Because Nintendo supported it. Sony abandoned the Vita in less than a year, before the PS4 was even released. Don't blame the market because of Sony's failure.
And by looking at sales data, the Switch still currently outpacing the Wii, which is the second best selling home console of all time. At the current rate of the Switch, it will not only outsell the DS, but also the Wii. That's only an if statement and things will change in the future, but even after 6 months in the market and shows no sign of slowing down.
@johncalmc Just because it sold less doesn't mean a market is drying. Vita failed because Sony failed to keep it alive. 3DS still did good overall, especially during a time with casual gaming at its peak with smartphones.
@johncalmc The 3DS had a rough start while the PS4 had an amazing start because of the One's terrible reveal and E3. Opposite start but end up having same sales. And 3DS sales started to slow down because of the Switch. PS4 sales will also slow down if Sony revealed a PS5 around this time. (But we won't be seeing it for a year or two.)
@johncalmc
By your logic, the PS4 failed as the successor to the PS3. It still hasn't reached PS3 sales and not even close to PS2 sales, hell even PS1 sales for that matters.
By all of your logic, console gaming will die in favor of PC gaming.
The thing is, Nintendo always had a different approach to handhelds ever since the Game and Watch during the early 80s. Switch already has potential.
Vita also had potential, but was mistreated and poorly executed. And it's not the Vita's fault, it's Sony's. The whole excuse of smartphones is irrelevant. The same could be said for the 3DS and look how it turned out.
It's not the market that hurt them, it's the way how they treated the market.
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Re: Don't Panic if Third-Party Games Aren't Immediately Announced for PS5, PS4 in the Aftermath of Xbox Showcase
Talk about damage control lmao
Re: Once Considered a PlayStation Competitor, Google Stadia Is Shutting Down
Stadia's marketing and strategy has always been bad. Should've went the route Microsoft went as used it as a companion to hardware, not to replace it.
Re: Soapbox: After the Vita's Failure, Why Do People Now Want Console Games on the Go?
The Vita was truly ahead of its time, but was handled poorly by Sony. Playing console quality games on the go was just too much for the thing. Then Sony just changed strategy with the Vita by advertising it as an accessory for the PS3 and PS4 rather than as its own device. Poor Vita, we hardly knew ye.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@NintendoFan4Lyf
PC has proven to be a viable gaming platform since 1983, during the North American game crash. So it's not anything impressive with today since it's already the norm. And I know that technology advances pretty quickly, but not all devices can do everything perfectly. A phone is excellent at social elements, such as social media and of course to call. A handheld is the opposite of that. The PC is literally the only device that can literally do anything, but needs lots of horsepower to achieve it. Since a phone will always have limitations, it needs to focus on one thing.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@NintendoFan4Lyf
Smartphones will never reach the power of a console. Current phones can barely run a PS2 game at medium settings. By the time a phone can play PS4 games, home consoles and even handhelds will be much more ahead.
And the thing is about smartphones is that it's a casual device. Looking at the top 10 apps and games on both App Store and Google Play, they're all free to play games like Candy Crush. You think a hardcore gamer will play a game like that? Of course not. A dedicated gaming device is much better to play games on than a smartphone. Casuals won't need it because they only play video games for a couple of minutes. Smartphones does that perfectly.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
It's the first time that a Nintendo handheld didn't outsell its predecessor, and there are reasons why aside from the rise of smartphones. At the end, still did better than a lot of people expected. Why did it still sold decent even during the age of smartphones? Because Nintendo supported it. Sony abandoned the Vita in less than a year, before the PS4 was even released. Don't blame the market because of Sony's failure.
And by looking at sales data, the Switch still currently outpacing the Wii, which is the second best selling home console of all time. At the current rate of the Switch, it will not only outsell the DS, but also the Wii. That's only an if statement and things will change in the future, but even after 6 months in the market and shows no sign of slowing down.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@johncalmc
Just because it sold less doesn't mean a market is drying. Vita failed because Sony failed to keep it alive. 3DS still did good overall, especially during a time with casual gaming at its peak with smartphones.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@johncalmc
The 3DS had a rough start while the PS4 had an amazing start because of the One's terrible reveal and E3. Opposite start but end up having same sales. And 3DS sales started to slow down because of the Switch. PS4 sales will also slow down if Sony revealed a PS5 around this time. (But we won't be seeing it for a year or two.)
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@Feena
Neither the PS4 trying to catch up with PS3 sales. Console gaming is dying then by your logic.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@johncalmc
By your logic, the PS4 failed as the successor to the PS3. It still hasn't reached PS3 sales and not even close to PS2 sales, hell even PS1 sales for that matters.
By all of your logic, console gaming will die in favor of PC gaming.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
The thing is, Nintendo always had a different approach to handhelds ever since the Game and Watch during the early 80s. Switch already has potential.
Vita also had potential, but was mistreated and poorly executed. And it's not the Vita's fault, it's Sony's. The whole excuse of smartphones is irrelevant. The same could be said for the 3DS and look how it turned out.
It's not the market that hurt them, it's the way how they treated the market.