@BadPlayerOne I literally posted saying that Sony isn't Microsoft's competition anymore, it hasn't been for a few years, they are going after bigger companies like Google, Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Facebook, and the like, and this is a step to combating those companies. Sony is Sony and Nintendo is Nintendo.
@gaston @gaston I mean that's their choice and platform, it's not a democracy, they have rules for what is being used and set the terms, and a user has to willingly agree to those terms in the first place. If you have used game pass you would realize that there is now so many games releasing on it, still available, EA play choices, and extra content that it's getting overwhelming game wise.
@Shepherd_Tallon trust me I want gaming to work for everyone, but as I said PlayStation has been stuck in the past with predatory price hiking and anti consumer approaches for last gen games that are next gen by forcing to pay for the upgrades, where I like the XB approach to free upgrade because of Smart Delivery.
@gaston not really less choice for gamepass considering even if a game leaves that service it's still for sale on the store, it's not like it's ever gone gone, just from the sub model for 3rd party. They rotate 3rd parties often to shed light on others that need it, it's pretty normal.
@mucc I never said it was sunshine and rainbows, he did say there was some internal issues due to the engine and how it works, but overall things were not near as bad as they were made out to be in articles (which if you believe like to fluff it up for clout)
@Shepherd_Tallon everything will be fine in the end, people are freaking out and I'm seeing cringe comments out of anger and spite, I love PlayStation but it needs to evolve past console spaces as a whole, there is no console wars, Microsoft's biggest competition isn't Sony like everyone thinks, it's actually been stated it's the likes of Google, Amazon, Netflix Etc... Lol.
@mucc I am in no way a fanboy, I'm a PC gamer first and like buying games on steam and having choice, and your little rant there is kinda cute and a bit cringe considering I just said MS doesn't give two ***** about console wars and buying consoles. But have it your way and lash out like someone in kindergarten, please go touch some grass and tell me you also grew up. <3
@mucc so barebones it was successful, said 343 friend told me most of those long blank years were the engine creation, the game was only worked on for a total of 3 years to date. And most of those complaints and articles were actually proven false information which is why you don't see them brought up at all anymore even after the release.
@KayOL77 you forget that the game studios under XGS are treated fairly, managed well, inclusive, have creative freedom, no crunch allowed, have the time to work on games, and everyone gets paid equally and treated fairly with dignity and respect, that's something I'm okay with because they respect the people in said Megacorp... Remind me ... Where is the negative in this?
@Shepherd_Tallon oh no I agree, but it's all weird as they can't say too much now as it's early, but I know Phil said some IPs future will be console/PC/mobile, while major ones on the PS will remain and continue to release, he specifically called out saying to Sony fans, name dropping is the big part as it was directed at the dedicated gamers on PlayStation.
@KayOL77 I would say to please go and read the fine print before speaking, there was an officially posted article about the future ensuring they won't take away what's already on PS.
@KayOL77 as much as it sucks, Activision Blizzard was spiraling out of control and hurting its own fans and gamers within its franchises, if this was a call for proper oversight and work culture and to make sure those studios go back to making better games, let it happen.
@Shephard_Tallon when they mean play games anywhere, they mean where the platform for their stuff is accepted, if Sony didn't want to be part of handshaking that's their own issue, but in terms of gaming market for consumers, they offer their games and services where available and where they can make sure players can get good value for the money they spend in that space.
So I want to post here, and the common misconceptions I am seeing that are being talked about in these comments. This whole buying of studios has nothing to do with console wars (MS doesn't give a ***** if you buy a console or not), pushing Sony out, or trying to keep everything from gamers, this decision for acquisition was moreso to save Activision Blizzard from its losses and issues internally and management style. If you reflect back on the history of all the studios MS has acquired for Xbox Games Studios you will see most of those companies were having financial issues, loss issues and damaged brands that have actually been revived as of recently. As much as I agree about companies buying other companies is bad for gaming, I see this one as a boon, and considering what gamers on the Activision and Blizzard sides are saying, they welcome their Microsoft overlords because it means changes will be made to the studio cultures, no more Bobby kotick when the deal is done, Blizzard will be able to work on its own games again the way it used to, and Activision and others can work on other respective games with the MS backing to up the quality and cash injection most of these franchises need, CoD won't be a yearly release and focus on the quality of content, not the quantity.
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Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@BadPlayerOne I literally posted saying that Sony isn't Microsoft's competition anymore, it hasn't been for a few years, they are going after bigger companies like Google, Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Facebook, and the like, and this is a step to combating those companies. Sony is Sony and Nintendo is Nintendo.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@gaston @gaston I mean that's their choice and platform, it's not a democracy, they have rules for what is being used and set the terms, and a user has to willingly agree to those terms in the first place. If you have used game pass you would realize that there is now so many games releasing on it, still available, EA play choices, and extra content that it's getting overwhelming game wise.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@Shepherd_Tallon trust me I want gaming to work for everyone, but as I said PlayStation has been stuck in the past with predatory price hiking and anti consumer approaches for last gen games that are next gen by forcing to pay for the upgrades, where I like the XB approach to free upgrade because of Smart Delivery.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@gaston not really less choice for gamepass considering even if a game leaves that service it's still for sale on the store, it's not like it's ever gone gone, just from the sub model for 3rd party. They rotate 3rd parties often to shed light on others that need it, it's pretty normal.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@mucc I never said it was sunshine and rainbows, he did say there was some internal issues due to the engine and how it works, but overall things were not near as bad as they were made out to be in articles (which if you believe like to fluff it up for clout)
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@Shepherd_Tallon everything will be fine in the end, people are freaking out and I'm seeing cringe comments out of anger and spite, I love PlayStation but it needs to evolve past console spaces as a whole, there is no console wars, Microsoft's biggest competition isn't Sony like everyone thinks, it's actually been stated it's the likes of Google, Amazon, Netflix Etc... Lol.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@mucc I am in no way a fanboy, I'm a PC gamer first and like buying games on steam and having choice, and your little rant there is kinda cute and a bit cringe considering I just said MS doesn't give two ***** about console wars and buying consoles. But have it your way and lash out like someone in kindergarten, please go touch some grass and tell me you also grew up. <3
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@mucc so barebones it was successful, said 343 friend told me most of those long blank years were the engine creation, the game was only worked on for a total of 3 years to date. And most of those complaints and articles were actually proven false information which is why you don't see them brought up at all anymore even after the release.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@KayOL77 I have a few friends who work in XGS under Phil Spencer, and they love their jobs as devs, I know for sure one works for 343i.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@KayOL77 you forget that the game studios under XGS are treated fairly, managed well, inclusive, have creative freedom, no crunch allowed, have the time to work on games, and everyone gets paid equally and treated fairly with dignity and respect, that's something I'm okay with because they respect the people in said Megacorp... Remind me ... Where is the negative in this?
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@KayOL77 I would rather pay an extra $5 a month for GP over my favorite brands and companies being abused internally like ***** lol.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@Sakisa you know it's welcomed considering their fans welcome it including Asmongold, a major Wow influencer.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@Shepherd_Tallon oh no I agree, but it's all weird as they can't say too much now as it's early, but I know Phil said some IPs future will be console/PC/mobile, while major ones on the PS will remain and continue to release, he specifically called out saying to Sony fans, name dropping is the big part as it was directed at the dedicated gamers on PlayStation.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@KayOL77 I would say to please go and read the fine print before speaking, there was an officially posted article about the future ensuring they won't take away what's already on PS.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@KayOL77 as much as it sucks, Activision Blizzard was spiraling out of control and hurting its own fans and gamers within its franchises, if this was a call for proper oversight and work culture and to make sure those studios go back to making better games, let it happen.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
@Shephard_Tallon when they mean play games anywhere, they mean where the platform for their stuff is accepted, if Sony didn't want to be part of handshaking that's their own issue, but in terms of gaming market for consumers, they offer their games and services where available and where they can make sure players can get good value for the money they spend in that space.
Re: Sony Stock Value Loses $20 Billion, But Will Likely Recover
So I want to post here, and the common misconceptions I am seeing that are being talked about in these comments. This whole buying of studios has nothing to do with console wars (MS doesn't give a ***** if you buy a console or not), pushing Sony out, or trying to keep everything from gamers, this decision for acquisition was moreso to save Activision Blizzard from its losses and issues internally and management style. If you reflect back on the history of all the studios MS has acquired for Xbox Games Studios you will see most of those companies were having financial issues, loss issues and damaged brands that have actually been revived as of recently. As much as I agree about companies buying other companies is bad for gaming, I see this one as a boon, and considering what gamers on the Activision and Blizzard sides are saying, they welcome their Microsoft overlords because it means changes will be made to the studio cultures, no more Bobby kotick when the deal is done, Blizzard will be able to work on its own games again the way it used to, and Activision and others can work on other respective games with the MS backing to up the quality and cash injection most of these franchises need, CoD won't be a yearly release and focus on the quality of content, not the quantity.