@Tatarimokke no idea… telling people they had to be disappointed in the review summary article and comments. ???
It’s just weird.
I’m guessing the author of this article wanted CD to have exclamation points above every objective and a button press to execute when you get there. This game isn’t that and isn’t trying to be. That doesn’t make it a bad game. It isn’t like a lot of games and does expect you to invest, pay attention, think things through as you go. And it’s odd that gaming journalists either can’t understand that or are willfully trying to misrepresent what CD is.
@Cres_Waven1 This is definitely not a Nintendo game. It is not a streamlined experience, and does’t have that Nintendo, polish, fine-tuning and simplicity. CD has the jank and is not trying to be a Nintendo game. Someone mentioned the D&D games of the 80’s and 90’s. It’s def more like that.
@Shepherd_Tallon I hear you. I'm not trying to be overly harsh, but I don't mind calling a spade a spade. To say the only thing you can do is arm wrestle and you don't gather any information is just flat out false. It's odd to frame things that way. I had an absolute blast with the intro just figuring out some of the mechanics and all that you can do. I get that it's not a game for everyone, but it's weird to see gaming journalists blatantly misrepresenting what it is.
Anywho, glad you're enjoying the game! I am too. Have fun and stay classy!
"Without any context or narrative reasoning, you're then told to "enter a tavern to gather information". The only thing you can do is take part in an arm wrestling contest, and you never gather anything close to resembling information."
I have no idea how the author can say this. It is an outright misrepresentation of the game. There is literally a notice that pops up on the screen and says "learning" as you encounter details and gather information about people in the town and items, both on your way to the tavern and in it. This fills in your journal and inventory with information about world and the people and factions that inhabit it. In the tavern you can arm wrestle, (which the game then pauses to explain that there will be minigames in towns to play). You can shop - selling and buying items, and explore the upper floor. You can buy recipes which introduce the cooking aspect of the game. If you search behind the counter you can find an extra recipe for free that you don't have to buy. You need to sell items to get coins to progress the next part of the main quest. Clearly, the tavern is designed to be a place to introduce mechanics about how the games systems, economy, and world-building work. It doesn't have pop-ups explaining every detail of this to you. There are a few pop-ups but mostly, you just learn it by exploring and playing.
To say "the only thing you can do is arm wrestle" and you "never gather anything close to resembling information" completely overlooks all of this.
I don't get all the hate to be honest. Yes it controls differently than typical action games but everything works fine so far. It's not a fast action game. There are tons of items and systems to interact with and it has a lock-on system (RB) to select what you want to interact with by pushing another button (X). [I'm playing on PC with an xbox controller] I'm loving the intro. The game is pretty much what I expected after reading the reviews except not bad at all like folks are saying. It's odd to me why pushsquare keeps dumping on this game. I for one am loving it so far. If you know what you like and this game seems like something you'd enjoy, go for it. So far, I'm glad I did. The world is stunningly beautiful and the game gives you time and space to explore and figure out it's systems. If you're into that type of game and experience, you'll probably have a blast.
@Markatron84 I completely agree with you, but on the flip side look how much engagement they’re getting from this ridiculous “summary.” I guess that’s what they want. It’s a shame this is what games journalism is becoming.
@get2sammyb I just mean that the headline stating that the reviews are a major disappointment and a comment you made to cptnfancypants saying that he'd have to call it a disappointment seem like an overreach. From what I'd encountered before the reviews dropped it seemed like this game wouldn't be for everyone. Some reviewers say its great. Some bounced off of it hard. As someone who is intrigued by what the positive reviews are saying, I'm not disappointed but excited. I appreciate the coverage and look forward to hearing how it runs on PS5... but a game in the 8 range that takes big risks and isn't necessarily for everyone isn't a disappointment to me. It's actually really interesting.
@get2sammyb why would I say its a dissappointment if I haven't played it yet? I think it was clear the game was going to be divisive before the reviews dropped.
Seems like the major critiques are for not hand-holding and imbalanced boss fights. Maybe the bosses need to be tweaked in a patch? But the lack of hand holding actually sounds amazing to me. Looking forward to giving it a go.
@ItsBritneyB_tch As someone who is old, loves Indiana Jones and even thought Dial of Destiny was a fun movie, I am saddened to hear from so many that no one gives a rip about Indy anymore. 😢
@LunarFlame17 If someone breaks into your house and steals your stuff, you have legal recourse against them and a justice system that should support you. Even if you couldn't catch the burglar you might also have renter's or homeowner's insurance that covers loss due to theft. It is true that all of those systems could fail, (don't catch the burglar, corrupt justice system, insurance fails to compensate) but my point is, there are social supports that help to protect your ownership. These supports don't exist for digital media because you don't own the content - you purchase a license to use it on the owner's terms.
I haven't had a Playstation since the original, so part of the reason I got a PS5 was to play some PS4 games... Most of my time with the system has been playing...
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Re: Hands On: Crimson Desert Runs Well Enough on PS5 Pro, But What About That Intro?
@Tatarimokke no idea… telling people they had to be disappointed in the review summary article and comments. ???
It’s just weird.
I’m guessing the author of this article wanted CD to have exclamation points above every objective and a button press to execute when you get there. This game isn’t that and isn’t trying to be. That doesn’t make it a bad game. It isn’t like a lot of games and does expect you to invest, pay attention, think things through as you go. And it’s odd that gaming journalists either can’t understand that or are willfully trying to misrepresent what CD is.
Re: Hands On: Crimson Desert Runs Well Enough on PS5 Pro, But What About That Intro?
@Cres_Waven1 This is definitely not a Nintendo game. It is not a streamlined experience, and does’t have that Nintendo, polish, fine-tuning and simplicity. CD has the jank and is not trying to be a Nintendo game. Someone mentioned the D&D games of the 80’s and 90’s. It’s def more like that.
Re: Hands On: Crimson Desert Runs Well Enough on PS5 Pro, But What About That Intro?
@Shepherd_Tallon I hear you. I'm not trying to be overly harsh, but I don't mind calling a spade a spade. To say the only thing you can do is arm wrestle and you don't gather any information is just flat out false. It's odd to frame things that way. I had an absolute blast with the intro just figuring out some of the mechanics and all that you can do. I get that it's not a game for everyone, but it's weird to see gaming journalists blatantly misrepresenting what it is.
Anywho, glad you're enjoying the game! I am too. Have fun and stay classy!
Re: Hands On: Crimson Desert Runs Well Enough on PS5 Pro, But What About That Intro?
"Without any context or narrative reasoning, you're then told to "enter a tavern to gather information". The only thing you can do is take part in an arm wrestling contest, and you never gather anything close to resembling information."
I have no idea how the author can say this. It is an outright misrepresentation of the game. There is literally a notice that pops up on the screen and says "learning" as you encounter details and gather information about people in the town and items, both on your way to the tavern and in it. This fills in your journal and inventory with information about world and the people and factions that inhabit it. In the tavern you can arm wrestle, (which the game then pauses to explain that there will be minigames in towns to play). You can shop - selling and buying items, and explore the upper floor. You can buy recipes which introduce the cooking aspect of the game. If you search behind the counter you can find an extra recipe for free that you don't have to buy. You need to sell items to get coins to progress the next part of the main quest. Clearly, the tavern is designed to be a place to introduce mechanics about how the games systems, economy, and world-building work. It doesn't have pop-ups explaining every detail of this to you. There are a few pop-ups but mostly, you just learn it by exploring and playing.
To say "the only thing you can do is arm wrestle" and you "never gather anything close to resembling information" completely overlooks all of this.
Re: Hands On: Crimson Desert Runs Well Enough on PS5 Pro, But What About That Intro?
@lazarus11 And it's marked with a giant red X on your map.
Re: Hands On: Crimson Desert Runs Well Enough on PS5 Pro, But What About That Intro?
I don't get all the hate to be honest. Yes it controls differently than typical action games but everything works fine so far. It's not a fast action game. There are tons of items and systems to interact with and it has a lock-on system (RB) to select what you want to interact with by pushing another button (X). [I'm playing on PC with an xbox controller] I'm loving the intro. The game is pretty much what I expected after reading the reviews except not bad at all like folks are saying. It's odd to me why pushsquare keeps dumping on this game. I for one am loving it so far. If you know what you like and this game seems like something you'd enjoy, go for it. So far, I'm glad I did. The world is stunningly beautiful and the game gives you time and space to explore and figure out it's systems. If you're into that type of game and experience, you'll probably have a blast.
Re: Round Up: Crimson Desert Reviews Are a Major Disappointment
@Markatron84 I completely agree with you, but on the flip side look how much engagement they’re getting from this ridiculous “summary.” I guess that’s what they want. It’s a shame this is what games journalism is becoming.
Re: Round Up: Crimson Desert Reviews Are a Major Disappointment
@get2sammyb I just mean that the headline stating that the reviews are a major disappointment and a comment you made to cptnfancypants saying that he'd have to call it a disappointment seem like an overreach. From what I'd encountered before the reviews dropped it seemed like this game wouldn't be for everyone. Some reviewers say its great. Some bounced off of it hard. As someone who is intrigued by what the positive reviews are saying, I'm not disappointed but excited. I appreciate the coverage and look forward to hearing how it runs on PS5... but a game in the 8 range that takes big risks and isn't necessarily for everyone isn't a disappointment to me. It's actually really interesting.
Re: Round Up: Crimson Desert Reviews Are a Major Disappointment
@get2sammyb why would I say its a dissappointment if I haven't played it yet? I think it was clear the game was going to be divisive before the reviews dropped.
Re: Round Up: Crimson Desert Reviews Are a Major Disappointment
Seems like the major critiques are for not hand-holding and imbalanced boss fights. Maybe the bosses need to be tweaked in a patch? But the lack of hand holding actually sounds amazing to me. Looking forward to giving it a go.
Re: Stardew Valley Sales Appear to Be Increasing Exponentially
It's a great game and I get why people love it, but the days feel too short and stress me out.
Re: Disney Doesn't Think It Was 'Overly Exclusionary' to Cut Planned PS5 Version of Indiana Jones
@ItsBritneyB_tch As someone who is old, loves Indiana Jones and even thought Dial of Destiny was a fun movie, I am saddened to hear from so many that no one gives a rip about Indy anymore. 😢
Re: Fortnite Massively Cuts Prices of Criticised Rocket Racing PS5, PS4 Microtransactions
🤨 That’s still waaaaaay too much.
Re: PlayStation Users Set to Lose Hundreds of TV Shows They Paid For
@LunarFlame17 If someone breaks into your house and steals your stuff, you have legal recourse against them and a justice system that should support you. Even if you couldn't catch the burglar you might also have renter's or homeowner's insurance that covers loss due to theft. It is true that all of those systems could fail, (don't catch the burglar, corrupt justice system, insurance fails to compensate) but my point is, there are social supports that help to protect your ownership. These supports don't exist for digital media because you don't own the content - you purchase a license to use it on the owner's terms.
Re: Blasphemous 2 Brings 'Darkly Picturesque Punishment' to PS5 in August
These games look great, but I just can't get over the dunce hat...
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite PS5 Game So Far?
I haven't had a Playstation since the original, so part of the reason I got a PS5 was to play some PS4 games... Most of my time with the system has been playing...
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Persona 5 Royal
God of War