Both Horizon Forbidden West and Gran Turismo 7 release for PlayStation 5 and PS4 within just a few weeks of each other, and if you plan on having both installed on your internal SSD when the time comes, it looks like the twosome will take a huge chunk out of your overall storage space. The former is currently being pegged at 85.913GB for a US download, and the latest racing simulator is reportedly even bigger: 89.445GB according to PlayStation Game Size.
Just like Aloy's next adventure, the file size scrubbed from the PSN backend is before any day one patches have been applied to the application. The Twitter account in question isn't always bang on with its estimations, but they're generally in the right ballpark. And with the PS5 version falling just short of 90GB, Gran Turismo 7 on PS4 could well weigh in even larger. Sony's Kraken compression system has reduced the size of many PS5 titles in the past.
PlayStation Game Size also states pre-load will be available starting 25th February 2022 ahead of its PS5, PS4 release date of 4th March 2022. Do you currently have enough space on your PS5 SSD to house both titles? If not, share what games you'll delete in the comments below.
That much huh? For a racing game?
I currently have bout 400 gig free on my SN850 an bout 35 gig on my PS5 SSD. Got Sifu, Horizon, Gran Turismo 7 an Lego Starwars Skywalker Saga on pre order. Pre ordered Elden Ring on Xbox Series X as i only av 5 games on that, 29 PS5 games on my PS5 an bout. 100 PS4 games on my external.
Can’t understand the complains.
These are great games with a lot of content.
@Reeneman Content doesn’t equate to file size. Never has, never will.
Bigger doesn't mean better
Well, unless your Sony
I always have the feelimg of wanting to play a racing game but then getting uninterested after a bit
I remember back when The Order dropped, and that file size was eye-watering. Now? Baby file. Little tiny thing.
Guess the mighty Kraken compression turns into just a regular squid with Sony exclusives 🙂
Until they're making ps5 only games, we'll continue to see this.
So much for the SSDs cutting down on game size! But it's not a huge deal anyway.
I've never understood the issue with file sizes. Why can't you delete the games you aren't playing and then reinstall them if you ever need them again? They stay in your library after all, and you won't have to buy them again. So what am I missing?
I don't know, maybe i'm the weird one in the sense that I don't ever play more than one game at once. I like to fully concentrate on a game, try to complete and platinum it, then I move on to a new game. If I have to delete the one I just beat platinum on then so be it.
I'm being serious here, not trying to be controversial. I'd love some genuine insight on why it's a big deal.
Am I the only one that doesn’t mind the big file sizes coupled with the relatively small storage space? It forces me to have fewer games installed at once, which means I’m more likely to stick with one game and not jump between several.
@Nepp67 If you have PlayStation Plus then I recommend trying DIRT 5. I’m not the biggest fan of racing games, but I’m enjoying it.
Edit: @Corc11 Guess I’m not the only one!
@Corc11 My whole family plays the PS5. We all have our own games we’re playing at the minute.
Another thing this article forgets to point out is the Xbox/Microsoft equivalent to Gran Turismo 7 exclusive takes up quite a bit of memory too at 79GB (Forza Horizon 5). Halo Infinite comes at around 80GB too if you install both the multiplayer and campaign, so... ok?
Or is this purely pointing out the supposed hypocrisy of games take up less memory on a SSD, because it still very well might when they start to be developed exclusively for PS5 and not PS4 as well.
Not surprised but I think that’s about the same or less than GT Sport
My ps4 has a 2tb internal hdd that’s pretty full but I have some games I can delete that i’ve finished so no need to stress about it. Not sure if i’ll pick this one up though, not a fan of the constant internet connection needed for the campaign.
Never have a problem with space. I only install two games at a time at most and uninstall as soon as the credits roll, but I guess some ppl just like having +10 games on their dashboard at once to jump between.
I've never been able to enjoy this series. I've tried over and over to get into it throughout the years but it's just so dull. Fair play to those who like it but it really bores me to tears.
Not surprising. Gt sport is massive on ps4, GT game is well worth whatever the GBs are
This game is going to be massive so I'm not surprised. Ps5 compatible SSD's are getting cheaper every month too.
I guess the huge size is due to these actually being PS4 games.
@nessisonett that makes sense
@SoggyWorm I’m pretty sure this article is just to inform people how much space Gran Turismo 7 is going to take up. Nothing more. Why would they mention Forza 7 and Halo Infinite? The sizes of those games have nothing to do with PS5 storage at all. 🤷
Thank god I got the 2TB WD SSD.
Unless we start seeing loads of 200+ GB games. I don’t mind.
I can’t wait for this. Horizon and Gran Turismo. What a great time to be a gamer.
@SoggyWorm Microsoft wasn't bragging about the power of their Cthulhu compression as opposed to Sony's all powerful Kraken 🤷
I'm personally not really bothered how much space these games take..i'm definatly going to have horizon but i'll wait and see about gran turismo (always find the gt games amazing to look at but boring to play)..warzone occupied almost 200 gig and the issue for me was the length of time copying over the updates took..the ps5 seems to have eradicated this unpleasent time waste..
@Corc11 it’s not a big deal at all
GT Sport uses about 100gb, so no real surprise.
Plenty of space on my SSD.
I never expected GT7 to be a small game.
I pre-ordered the regalia edition, guess I won't be able to preload like the rest even though It comes with a digital copy 😞
What's the problem? GT Sport is 110GB on my PS5 and FH5 is 103GB on my Series X...
Totally agree with you man. I got zero problem with my OG PS4 space all last gen. I think that’s because I like retail disc and it’s just very easy to just pop in the disc if you want to replay a game you long deleted.
I think most people who see a space problem is because they go digital. They also get tricked into buying more Space HDD or SSD by the industry. I maybe wrong but that’s what I think. Gaming industry professional mostly go digital too I think and they see a problem from their own point of view just like they see reviews from their own jaded perspective.
Sorry for personal takes here haha
It’s a shame GT7 isn’t worth on disc though as I will get it digital because it’s always online so this one makes sense. But in anyway I’ll probably never delete it.
Have a nice day 😅
Kraken will not be fully utilised in cross gen games. PS4 is currently holding PS5 back in this regard.
I can’t believe people do console wars bad takes on this haha
It’s been proven many times PS5 SSD compression is first in class as goes the formula 😅
No hypocrisy here.
It can be 500GB for all I care, just bring it on!! 🤓
Fully expected a GT game to be that size. Sport was a monster! I dont have an issue with the file sizes really. I have about 10 ps5 and 1 ps4 game on the HDD which is pretty full but there is atleast 5 of those games that wont be getting a look in any time soon so they could be deleted. Just got the plat for Ratchet yesterday so that can also come off. It helps that the ps5 installation process is alot quicker too.
No problem I've got TONNES of space.
@nessisonett Yes it does. Always has. Always will.
218.5Gb free on PS5 internal and 4.67Tb free on external for PS4 games on my PS5. No problems here.
@Corc11 I'm exactly the same as you, I don't see the huge fuss, I just delete when I'm bored of that game, very easy to reinstall it. Maybe some people like a collection? for everyone else.. This is probably big in file size due to the detail in the game. (Assets)
@naruball So how can a game like Modern Warfare take 3 times more space than The Witcher III ?
I wouldn't be surprised if at least 10gb is the intro and credits video. those are always notoriously long and high quality
@Cornaboyzzz because its so badly optimised. And it has a huge amount of content and assets that it has to share between MW and Warzone and the pipeline is terrible.
@Reeneman couldn’t agree more and as this game matures, it’ll balloon in size
@Cornaboyzzz you completely missed my point
Can't wait for the 2 years it will take me to get the plat on it. Seriously GT5 wasn't even worth attempting because of that
@Cornaboyzzz because microtransactions are massive data
That's really huge. Without an additional SSD, it's a nightmare using a PS5
@thefourfoldroot Are you saying that the kraken can't real-time compress/uncompress ANYTHING on the hard drive - it can only handle PS5 games?
Assumed it was just a DoubleSpace (MS DOS 6.2 for the kids out there)
Think everyone, be it on PS4 or 5, can add on another 20Gb for all the DLC that will no doubt launch soon after.
Less the GTS then. That is surprising given I expect the assets are so much higher detail and the content is so much more plentiful.
Really surprised they got it smaller than GTS !
@sanderson72 I know a fair number of crossgen games have much smaller file sizes on PS5 so I don't think that's an issue. I think some were hoping games like this would really small because of the compression tech but there's only so much it can do.
The ssd size is going to halt Sony's dreams of a digital only future for at least another generation. People can't be expected to delete and then redownload almost 100gbs of data on the semi regular
@lindos true that!
@riceNpea another annoying thing is that a 10gb update (for balancing bloody weapons) requires over 100gb free space. Absolute joke.
While it is a lot, at least if size is a concern you can just download the PS4 version on your PS5 to an external HDD. I dislike how on Series X you don't have the option to install the XB1 version instead and so memory space becomes a massive problem without the Seagate expansion card.
@Grumblevolcano You can at least install the Series X version on an external HDD and transfer it to the main drive when ever you want to play it.
@Corc11 I'm right there with you, I have a couple of games which stay installed because I jump back in now and then such as Destiny, GT Sport, Pro Evo etc but generally for everything else once it's completed (or the plat is achieved) it gets deleted.
@BlaizeV how? Its expandable. Same as rhe PS4? That wasn't held back because of internal storage.
Release the kraken!
File size issues can be solved by very cheap external HDD’s.
Never really understood the file size issue myself.
@Floki I'd rather have the XB1 version available instantly than have to mess around with moving Series X versions between internal and external.
File size has never been a concern for me. I generally only ever have two games at most at a time that I'm playing and once I'm fully down with them I delete them and move on to the next thing
@Corc11 me neither, but hey people like a moan.
@Corc11 my guess is slower Internet comes into play. I have friends that have to wait 4 to 6 hours minimum when downloading a game. With instant access to most things now a days that is a lot of time
@Elodin hmm, I'm not sure cos you can pre load games now so that it's ready for release
@Floki You can also move PS5 games to external drives and back to the internal drive when you want to play it.
Gran Turismo Sport was 100gb so theyve done something to make it smaller!
@thefourfoldroot "PS4 is currently holding PS5 back in this regard."
Just in this regard? 😅
Whelp. I better finish ass creed odessey then
so when we kept being told these would go down because of the ssd...
You could give everyone a 2TB internal drive in the PS5 and they'd still moan about game filesizes being too high.
Play less at once, store on cheapo external drive, redownload if you have fast internet. It's not tough unless you want to make it a first world problem.
@Corc11 for many people a ps5 is a family machine, so i have a few games im playing based on what i feel like, then my boys switch between a few games. Downloading for a few hours before playing isnt realistic, even installing off disc, why should we have to plan so far in advance?
I downloaded Red Dead Redemption 2. 105GB. Sit down Sony fans. Lets review this after the first 12 months - maybe then they'll be 120+ especially if GT7 is updated as regularly as GT Sport was.
As systems get more 4K content, this will be the ongoing file sizes.
@Robinsad Not just the SSD but also the Kraken compression. The 90GB figure is useful in regards to how much space you'll need but useless for anything else. We don't know the quality and number of assets and have no idea how big it would need to have been without the SSD and Kraken.
I'm not sure what people expected but 90GB seems pretty good to me given what we've seen of the game so far.
@Corc11 data caps from ISP could be a very good reason.
I’m with ya. I just move stuff to the external, but the immediate desire to play a game is stifled by the transfer from external to internal.
@Bentleyma Because I felt it was implied with "another PS exclusive". There is a fair few games (not just the Xbox exclusives, multiplats too) that take up quite a bit of space. So the fact it's a PS exclusive does not really need to be mentioned, otherwise you'll get people like me saying "so? plenty of games take up a lot of space".
Plus like someone else has pointed out it is also releasing on PS4, why put the extra work in to try to compress it properly on PS5 when it's releasing for a platform that won't (or can't) benefit from it or not as much
@Stnkygrngo I've never even needed an external, and I game alot
Do you get a free screwdriver with the deluxe edition?
The thing I mostly worry about is SSDs have finite write limits to them before they start failing out blocks or totally die. Consumer grade ones aren't meant for massive 100GB dumps of data over and over again. Hopefully these tiny ones the consoles include are pricy enterprise-grade stuff meant for high write volume, otherwise I predict a lot of console SSD failures a few years from now.
I think both consoles show that the "games are smaller on SSD" thing was pretty much an empty sales pitch. Some games do come in smaller, but then the game data is getting bigger, so it's a wash. It hurts a little more on PS5 since you're short an extra 150GB out of the box compared to XSX.
The 1TB/840GB drives definitely were too small for this gen. I bought a 1GB expansion for XSX, but I'm waiting to open my PS5 until they're easily replaceable on store shelves in case of anything going wrong...
@NEStalgia Seriously, don't be concerned about upgrading the PS5. The hardest thing for me was just figuring out how to take the side panel off! Unless you try to hammer the SSD in upside down you're not going to damage anything.
As for SSD write cycles I don't think we're going to have a problem. As I understand it each cell might be limited to 100,000 writes but not the drive as a whole. Whenever you delete or copy a game over you're only going to write to so many of those cells, not all of them. Plus the SSD will try to even out the wear on the cells, writing data to the less worn ones.
@SJBUK The side panels probably do worry me than if the bay was just exposed through the shell. If a plastic clip breaks, I'll never forgive myself (though they'll be selling overpriced replacements...)
I have terrible luck though, and already had an XSX die at the 1 year mark, so I'm not into tempting fate. It was random, nothing i did, the power supply just burned out, but if something went wrong with the PS5 after the upgrade I'd keep blaming myself. If Spartacus turns out to be great, though, I might have to upgrade right away and tempt fate after all. The limited SSD keeps me from using my PS5 more than I do sometimes. The XSX with 2TB (I bought the 1TB drive at launch) barely has enough room for me, and with Game Pass I'm always trying out games. If Spartacus is good, I'll be doing the same with PS and the 840GB will really hurt....
Especially with Now and Game Pass and the like, those write cycles can really add up though. Especially with games getting to the point of being 10-15% the total drive size for each game. On the XSX I try to write mostly to the external drive so I can just replace that if needed, though it costs almost as much as the console anyway. I'd like to get there with PS5, too.
Most important news in this article is; March 4th is really going to happen!!
@NEStalgia Fair enough. I had similar fears but as it turned out the clips are pretty damn solid, even my heavy handedness didn't damage them.
I've been using SSD's for years in PC's now, never had one fail so I'm personally pretty confident in them lasting as long, if not longer than hard drives. I guess we're a long way from knowing how well the built-in PS5 drive will wear, though. Hopefully if it failed the internal plugin drive could take over.
@SJBUK That's reassuring to know. I'll still be nervous to upgrade the drive, but maybe slightly more tempted to give it a try. I know the panels are technically supposed to come off regularly for cleaning the air filter (or cosmetic panel swaps) anyway, so I'm making too much out of it, but it still gets me nervous while they're so scarce.
SSDs, yeah, for PCs I switched to all SSD a long time ago, but, on PCs I'm typically not writing like 400GB a month to an 840GB drive HOPEFULLY the console vendors both thought about that and specced a drive that can withstand that amount of utilization. IDK how they could have done so and hit their price points, though. I can honestly say the main reason I haven't tried FFXIV again is just because of the SSD limitations.
@Corc11 for me its when I would stop by a friend's and say hey let's play mlb the show. He would say sorry not downloaded. More space would alleviate that. Not a huge issue sure, but still an annoyance.
Purchased ps5 specifically for GT7. Pre-Ordered 25 anniversary edition. Added WD Black P10 external and SN850 Internal so space is not an issue.
@Elodin yeah, I suppose it would depend how many multiplayer games you play and how often you switch games up. I've got MLB:TS and FIFA 22 downloaded on mine, but then the rest of the space just goes on whatever single player game I'm currently playing, then when I complete it the space gets recycled for whatever is next. Even when GT7 comes, I'll have space for that to stay as well as the story based single player that I'm playing through
@NEStalgia I think we'll be fine with the SSD. I've been using SSDs as my main build drives for 8 or 9 years now. They tend to get hammered on a daily basis as the build process creates and deletes 10's of thousands of small files each time. At the end of a full build I'll have about 100GB of source code and built binaries on disk. The process probably creates the same in temp files that get deleted as it goes along.
When I first started using them I didn't expect them to last more than a year or two but, so far, none have let me down.
@SJBUK That's definitely hopeful info!
Bigger textures make for bigger file sizes, even if you compress them down. This will more than likely be the norm for all PS5 games. Thankfully they have all of the compression tech in the PS5, or they'd be even bigger!
@nessisonett yes it does
@JohntheRaptor Look up the file size of Tales of Maj’Eyal. That game has thousands of hours worth of content. Or any grand strategy game.
@Corc11 nice choice of games! I'm saving a bit of space for Elden Ring, but I do jump around a bit with games, but I'm lucky enough that my downloads are quick. I do miss my 2 terabyte ps4 though for convenience sake.
@Robinsad it’s less than GT Sport on the PS4. The PS5 has better optimised compression than the PS4 as well as the fast SSD drive, so they don’t have to duplicate assets around the disk. You can bet the PS4 version will be bigger.
Considering we’ll have more higher resolution textures than the previous gen, this is to be expected
@SoulChimera That was something they only recently allowed you to do. Xbox at least allowed it day 1.
My 4TB SSD will laugh at that 89.445GB Saying that GT Sport was over 100GB :-/ Not put that on my SSD yet because it will probably take all day to download the extra downloads for the game(that is one thing I HATE about consoles nowadays :-/ Having to update games all the time. Well not all the time but GT Sport it seemed monthly it had a few GB added to it) Oh well.
@Floki True, it wasn’t day one, but it’s been almost a year since they added it.
@SoulChimera It was a added in the April update, so not exactly almost a year yet
@Floki Apologies. Seemed like it was longer. 10 months and a few days then haha.
This is ridiculous, especially with the limited storage of the PS5.
Also I thought one of the points they marketed the PS5 with was the SSD would cut down on file size.
Guess I'll be saving £70 though.
@Reeneman you know funny thing, I watched a video from a Youtube channel called Donut Media and they talked about Gran Turismo funnily enough
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