
We bloody love Ghost of Tsushima here at Push Square, but the open world adventure didn't resonate so well with everyone. The game sits at a very respectable but not quite mind-blowing 83 Metascore on Metacritic, but much like fellow PlayStation 4 exclusive Days Gone, Ghost has gone down brilliantly with its wider audience.
The game currently has a 9.3 user score on Metacritic -- a score that even the most universally praised blockbusters would struggle to obtain. Based on some data crunching by Forbes, Ghost of Tsushima is actually one of the highest rated titles of the entire console generation -- and the only games that come close are ones that don't have anywhere near as many user reviews.
Indeed, Ghost has a whopping 15,192 user ratings, so the fact that it's managed to maintain such a high score is pretty much unheard of. The game has clearly struck a chord with players, and the user score reflects this.
Now of course, user scores aren't everything. Games get unfairly torn apart by Metacritic users all the time, but that perhaps makes Ghost's score even more impressive. Again, it's exceedingly rare for a release of this magnitude to have over 10,000 user ratings, and to be sitting pretty at a 9.3 -- that's pretty much universal praise.
Do you agree with Ghost of Tsushima's user score? Why do you think it's so high? Give Jin a pat on the back in the comments section below.
[source reddit.com, via forbes.com]
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Of course it does. It was very clearly review-bombed by the same people who downvoted TLOU2. User scores are entirely meaningless when you don’t need to have played the game to voice your opinion. Just scrap them altogether if you can’t connect them to your account to verify purchases.
Loved the game! It definitely deserves all the praise it's been getting as well as the high user scores. Game of the Year contender in my opinion.
@sensea https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ghost-of-tsushima-review-boosting/
The Witcher 3 is the greatest game of this generation. TLOU2 and Ghost of Tshushima cannot hold a candle to that masterpiece. I found Ghosts particularly repetitive and wasn't impressed with the game would and would vote 8/10 at best.
@nessisonett TLOU2 was a massive disappointment. Its a pity Amy Henning left Naughty Dog. She would have helped write a far greater story than the tripe we were delivered.
@sensea There’s a very clear correlation between the people who gave TLOU2 0 on Metacritic and then gave GoT 10. If you can’t see that then either your eyeballs fell out or your blinkers are still on.
@Orange_Man_Bad Sorry man but I find either Bloodborne or GoT to be GOTG far more than the Witcher 3.
It is a great game I really am enjoying it and almost finished it!
I think one of the reasons it has gone down well is because it is a fun game and having come off the back of TLOU2 which was very grim it helps with escapism in these uncertain times and makes you feel good until you have a look at the news/internet. You can lose hours exploring and upgrading in this beautiful open world.
@sensea It’s not a conspiracy. The guy includes a wall of screenshots showing people giving those very scores. You asked for proof and I gave it. Either take that on board or piss off.
look I see internet's unironically 'defending the honor' of TLOU against GoT, you gotta love that anyone cares enough to unsheath their truth swords and fact shurikens. Metacritic wrong because it's not opinion it's facts by numbers bleurgh. There are those that don't care and those that pretend to care about metacritic.
@nessisonett This seems to be an odd generalisation,coming from some one ,whom has played niether of this games.
@Nepp67 I agree that Bloodborne is a masterpiece but the Witcher 3 (2015) puts GOT to the sword every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Even the Blood and Wine DLC beats GoT. Considering its 2020, GoT lacks variety for an open world title.
I think some of it is because of the frankly silly reactions to TLOU2, I regularly see it on here or Facebook, where every mention of GOT is seemingly accompanied by comments of its better than TLOU2. Don't get me wrong this is a fine game but I don't see it as being anywhere near the best of this generation, its very pretty, the combat is very entertaining and main story is great if a little short. That said its open world is very much by the numbers with a lot of bloat, AI for stealth is hopeless at times, the camera is atrocious and its far too easy once you're fully upgraded (which is also very easy to do).
Something around a 7 or 8 for me, certainly not up there with the likes of God of War, Spider-Man, Horizon or TLOU2 but probably just above Days Gone in terms of exclusives
@carlos82 Bang on mate (except about TLOU2, that was an awful sequel)
I absolutely love this game so far and have very few complaints. It will definitely go down as one of my favorite games of this generation.
It definitely deserves the score. I platinumed it a few days ago and actually still wanted to play. That’s exceedingly rare for me.
@BamBamBaklava89 wait till you finish it. Superb.
@Orange_Man_Bad people have different opinions on its story but I've not really seen anyone complain about it gameplay which is significantly better than the first
👻 ghost of masterpiece.now give me a sly cooper collection.word up son
@Orange_Man_Bad To say GoT lacks variety for an open world title is funny but it's your opinion.
That 9.3 user score is just as bloated as the game is itself.
@Nepp67. I know right.some people🤔.and if you ask them theyre favorite game.they will give you a horrible game and you be like thats the game you choose.word up son
Great game. Trivial and arbitrary numbers are applied to it (like all games), but I think it's great. That's what matters to me.
@JapaneseSonic well to be fair, you pretty much have seen everything the game has to offer other than wrapping up some excellent story lines. What did you expect?
To be honest this makes sense to me. If I was being critical to the game, it doesn't do much new and has a lot of generic open world stuff to do. If i was reviewing it and being critical (as a critic) I can see why it would have that type of score.
To play though as someone who just wants a fun game, I've really enjoyed it and am still ploughing through for the platinum. Open worlds, despite being a little stale are hugely popular genres so can see why a good one would get better user reviews.
@Rudy_Manchego Good point. That’s the difference between looking at something with a critical eye vs. reviewing a game for simply how fun and enjoyable it was for you. I’m still in Act 1 but there are things I’d have to cite as shortcomings, but I just love the overall experience so far, regardless. I think Spider-Man was the same thing. Outside of the web-slinging it wasn’t really all that innovative, but it sure was a blast to play.
@nessisonett That is normal for every game bro, have you seen some blind scores for RDR2 ? That is not proof what you`re providing cuz I can give you hundreds of user reviews where RDR2 is praised by Xbox users because it looks best on Xbox One X.
Has probably made Sony tons of money and all with no Micro-transactions, no long 100+ hour grind, and no Season Pass. Ubisoft should be taking hints with the Assassin's creed franchise going forward.
I'm not typically a fan of these types of open world games (read Assassin's Creed); but Ghost of Tsushima really resonates with me. It's my GOTY so far, at least on PS4 and would easily give it an 8 or a 9; where as I would have given TLOU 2 a solid 7. TLOU 2 is a beautiful game no doubt and I take no umbrage with it's story, it's just far too dour during this period in time at no fault of it's own; just bad timing.
Great for the game, I like it waay more than tlou2, how can it only get 83 from mc critics is beyond me. And I like the protagonist and supporting characters, I mean a supporting characters and protagonist that I don't hate? What a concept, ND should learn a things or two from SP.
@Medic_Alert You really hit the nail on the head there. Every side quest in the game is a slight variation of the same thing.
"Mongols kidnapped my family" Whoops, they died, better go report back that their family is dead. But hey I avenged them! That's what's important right?
And even when the game tries to do something more interesting with its side content it still ends up being a disappointment. Like when a Monk asks me to go investigate a forest that's haunted by spirits. I already know before I set foot in that forest that it's just a bunch of bandits. Im going to go in there, slaughter them all and report back to the monk and tell him it was nothing.
Idk. The game just doesn't have the sense of wonder or exploration that many other games of this ilk do. The praise this game gets just absolutely baffles me
@nessisonett Thanks for doing the legwork with the source you cited! Gives these shill articles the swift kick in the head needed to be less fanboy and more critical!
@nessisonett no mention of the people who gave tens to TLOU2 downvoting ghosts? Nah that doesn't fit your agenda, does it, little fella
@Orange_Man_Bad if you compare every game to the Witcher 3, you will always be disappointed. It was a stroke of genius and I don’t even think cyberpunk 2077 will hold a candle to it.
I don't get it. I thought Ghost of Tsushima was a good game, but had a fair few visual glitches, the story was quite a basic tale of revenge and didn't really flow that well in my opinion (the frequent interruptions to start a new tale was overdone), and the only character I thought was well written was Khotun Khan.
That sounds really negative, but I did enjoy the game too - I just don't think it is the classic people are making out.
@nessisonett
Well said.
As with Days Gone, it's alright, it's certainly pretty, but the open world formula is quite stale. It's lacking the details I've come to expect in other Sony games, like God of War, The Last of Us, etc. Alright game, probably a 7 or 8 for me. I am enjoying it, but it's missing a little "oomph".
@sensea Plenty of user reviews on Metacritic were something along the lines of "10/10, because it's not made by Neil Cuckmann lmao".
@Kafkaesque That just gives further weight to the theory that user reviews mean literally nothing and are entirely disingenuous. If there was as big a movement from TLOU2 stans to downvote GoT, it wouldn’t be sitting on 9.2 regardless of anything else. That says more about the number of naysayers than the number of fans.
@nessisonett The people who gave 10 to TLOU2 gave 0 to Ghost!!
Great game, I'm very happy for Sucker Punch.
So people aren't just taking sides in the console 'war' these days - they're even taking sides of developers in franchise wars?!!!
Sheesh!!!!! Sad days.
It's good but far too repetitive. There's a great game buried beneath outdated open world collection tasks and rote map clearance. Also it's 2020 its about time mandatory stealth missions were binned.
For the people slating tde unoriginal side missions, what do u expect? Open word games have been done to death this generation. It must be hard to find new ways of doing them, yes witchery 3 had more veriaty but that was, what 3, 4 years ago? So what was variety then no longer is now.
Will buy it on the cheap but every one of my friends who own/played it, are giving it game of the year.
I wanted to enjoy this game so much, following progress for years but in the end it just didn't click for me. I blame TLoU2 for being so ridiculously amazing that in the words of Sinead O'connor 'Nothing compares to (tlo) U (2).' Plus i got killed a lot.
@BalsBigBrother I think I read somewhere that disagreement between people actually causes mental distress that's akin to pain. People are also really ego-centric. Everyone. 100 percent of the time. Everyone also wants to be right.
Add the fact that a lot of people aren't capable of introspective thought, and you get people that feel as if you you just murdered their mother for saying something they disagree with, and a discourse you intended you have turns into discord that doesn't stop, a positive feedback loop of nothing anyone says matters.
"Ghost has a whopping 15,192 user ratings"
The Last of Us 2, 139,685 user ratings. It didn't get review bombed tho guys.
@nessisonett I like how TLoU Part II haters have decided to stick it to the SJWs by lavishing praise on this other Sony-published game, because some journalist somewhere happened not to like it. Culture war antics can be funny at times. Stupid, but amusing.
I do like it but it isn't game of the generation. I actually agree with the critics' score of 83. It does look beautiful the lighting is amazing. But gameplay is really let down by terrible enemy AI. It's really poor. Worse than horizon zero dawn's human enemy AI which was also terrible. The stealth gameplay is a bit boring too. Much more fun doing head on combat.
@sensea
Proof not needed. Metacritic makes it possible for silly gamers to do so, and there is no doubt people of the gaming community did this.
I loved Ghost of Tsushima. I don't know what I would rate it but it's my favorite open world game of this generation and currently my game of the year. It was the game that broke me out of my shell of not playing anything new much this year. Now i've went back and started playing Final Fantasy VII Remake as of yesterday. It's crazy that i've had that game since launch and only started it now.lol. Thanks Ghost!! After that, i'll get on The Last of Us II and I think im done at the point and will continue to play Battlefield 4(like i've been doing for most of this year) til the PS5 drop.
@Orange_Man_Bad the story was ***** but there's no denying the game LOOKED ***** beautiful. Props to the art team just a shame the story was 2/10 compared to the first game.
For me GoT did what Breath of the Wild should have been, it gives you enough of of a general idea of what to do but still allows you to freely explore.
User scores, 'professional' scores, doesn't matter to me at this point. One of my favorite and most-played games this generation is Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, the definition of a 7/10 game, but I always have a ton of playing it. All these two new PS4 exclusives proved is that user scores should be gone. I also think websites, the few mags that still exist, etc should do away with review scores but I get why some don't want to.
@sensea Just have a look. Quite a good many of the 10/10 reviews mention some ***** about TLoU2,, "SJWs", "agendas", "pandering" etc etc
@nessisonett So if someone disliked the last of us 2 and liked Ghost of Tsushima. Then they're automatically review bombers. Ok lul
Because it actually deserves it. GoT is so good unlike the dumpster fire that last of us 2 was
@nessisonett the last of us 2 was horrible, this game isn't however.
@Orange_Man_Bad I don't know about that. The stories got better after she left. Maybe Bruce Straley would have curbed Druckmann a bit more.
@AdamNovice yeah its an open world game....
@Envy Thats your opinion. 😆
@SaikoWaifu2003 That's not a bad thing. We got to stand against people like them that want to censor ***** 24/7 or want to force a certain agenda. Why do you think gamers are so tired of it.
@Envy Lmaooooo, people like you actually exist. Are you unironically saying ‘gamers rise up’?
@Starkei My point was Botw doesn't do a good job of explaining much for you if anything, GoT at least holds your hand enough without been annoying.
@deSade57 Thats why i dont look at personal reviews we all have so different taste in games. And the user reviewscores have too many personal nonobjective hate. Look at the Last of Us Part II that game will never be 0/1 thats total nonsense. I guess people never played a really bad game before. Is it a technical mess does it run poorly is it ugly i dont think so.
@nessisonett There's proof of Lou2 people giving Ghost a 0 and Lou2 a 10. It goes both ways. Honestly I think Ghost deserves the praise its getting. Its one of few things I can watch or play without some agenda behind it.
@Ralizah Culture war indeed, I love all those comments of people in denial saying that people are praising GoT for entirely honest reasons and then immediately below there’s people saying that it “doesn’t have an agenda” and making jokes about “lady men”. You literally can’t make it up.
@InsertGoodName Are you such a moron that looks at ingame training charts trying too disprove the musscles of a fictional character. 😉
@Envy You probably never played a bad game or you are mental.
@KahnArtizt07 Who knows and there are people who dont like Witcher 3 i think its all up too what you like. But even if you dont like some game and its good why give it a 0 because you cant handle women with musscles or lesbians i think thats really sad.
@nessisonett Dude, check out videos on youtube where they research the review history of the people who gave 0 and 1 to GoT. All of them had only 2 reviews on their profile. Wanna guess which was the other review? tlos2. And of course it was a 10/10. I don't understand why it's so hard to admit that GOT is a 8.5/10 and tlous2 a 6.5/10. In the end they're both interesting pieces of software. And neither one is GOD OF WAR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlpGKCDp54o
@SaikoWaifu2003 I guess thats true but with how people are now its hard not to see it as such lol. Ur input is appreciated tho thanks
It’s a good game I’m about 10 hours or more in. I can see it getting a little repetitive though but few games match the artistic vision of ghost, it really is stunning to look at.
Not surprised it’s riding higher than TLOU2, it was disappointing to say the least. Didn’t deserve to be review bombed but the 10/10 review scores from ‘journalists’ where a joke too imo.
I find the extreme views between GOT and LOU2 is what’s putting me off buying GOT. I loved LOU2 and am surprised by how much people can’t see it as okay, it has to be a 0/10 and in the same breath will say GOT is 10/10. It makes me think their view is invalid in this situation even if it shouldn’t.
Saying this I also struggled with Witcher 3 and bloodborne which I’m gutted about, although will give them both a retry on PS5 once the loading issues are sorted. They’re too too damn difficult!!
@StonyKL You shouldn't hold off buying a game because of a minority of fanatics who have little to do with the pleasure said game will probably give you.
A very beautiful game which is great fun to play. It just needs an update to have the strongholds repopulate with enemy over time, to extend the experience following completion of the main story.
@nessisonett Just as TLOU2 was given hundreds of 10s by people who hadn't even played it.
@JapaneseSonic “ They could have added some different enemy types or boss fights. Some new animals. Perhaps a different type of side mission or tasks. So far in Act 3 I’m just thinking ‘Ah I’m doing that again’ and there’s nothing cool left to unlock as far as i know. Perhaps the game will still surprise me...”
So you expect new enemy types, animals and/or bosses at the end of the game (you know you haven’t finished the end game bosses, right)? Really? If you expect games to introduce new things like that at the end of the game you’ll be disappointed with literally every game.
Also, I’d suggest finishing the main story.
so now a game has good users scores from metacritic, the sites OK now?
so next time a game gets reviewed bombed it will be awful again?
@JapaneseSonic I’m not really “snarky” about it per-say. I just don’t think you’re being reasonable by wanting them to keep adding new things up to the end. If they did people would complain that the enemies and bosses in the game aren’t “fleshed out” so to speak.
The game as it is was what they wanted to release. People complaining and asking for stuff all the time is part of the reason games become crappy half-finished projects because they keep trying to add things to keep people like you happy.
Red Dead Redemption 2 is the best game of its generation, closely followed by The Witcher 3 with The Last of Us Part II picking up the bronze.
Ghost must be pretty darned good to be ahead of the likes of Horizon and God of War let alone the aforementioned titles above.
Congrats to all at Sucker Punch!
It's a good game, but it's an Assassin's Creed clone. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my time with it, but it didn't really do anything new at all. It was an open-world clear the map cliché.
It was good, polished, an interesting, but it wasn't anything new or remarkable otherwise. A couple tweaks to the interface and I'd think Ubisoft made it.
@StonyKL mate, I loved tlou2 and I'm really enjoying got, as well. It's a fairly routine open world game but it's entertaining and we'll worth a look
@nessisonett yes I am, 100% being dead ass serious
@Flaming_Kaiser I've played plenty of bad games, The order, TLOU2, Assassin Creed unity, killzone shadow fall, slient hill downpour, halo 4, destiny and mass effect Andromeda.
@Envy TLOU 2 is good the order is short not bad in my eyes, KZ was dissapointing not bad, Destiny isnt a bad game just not my thing. If you dont like something that does not mean its a bad thing.
@nessisonett But it wasn't review bombed, it was review boosted.
This article is meaningless and so is the user score you're talking about. Everyone knows, positive or negative, that user scores on Metacritic are meaningless. People very frequently group up en masse to review bomb or review boost games.
The only thing worth noting here, perhaps, is that gaming controversy was too busy with higher profile games with better metacritic scores, so nobody bothered to organize a review bomb for Ghost of Tsushima. But even that doesn't mean much.
I think at this point most people agree that user reviews on Metacritic should be disabled.
@GhostOfTheLore imagine thinking that LGBT characters simply existing is some kind of agenda. When will it be ok for them to be in games without accusations like this? Probably never from the sound of it.
To be fair the metacritic scoring for users is mostly pointless.
Without verifiable proof that the persons review has come from actually playing the game it leaves the score open to unscrupulous exploitative methods.
That's not to say that a lot of the games that have user ratings are inaccurate, as some "neutral" games that don't pull the ire of the gaming community tend to have fairly well balanced scores. But polarizing games that have political agenda attached to them tend to be the biggest culprits of inaccurate, and basically pointless scoring.
As @nessisonett said, add some sort of verifiable process that the person has bought and played the title, so that their contribution can be validated, or just remove it entirely, or come up with another way for users to review the game. Maybe add some sort of questionairre that would need you having to either go and do some research, or have to had finished the game in order to know the answers.
@Orange_Man_Bad witcher 3 is so overated.
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