Here’s an outlandish idea: what if the PlayStation 5 could play games from every PlayStation console ever made – including the handhelds? To be clear, that would include: PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PSone, PS Vita, and PSP – the manufacturer’s entire 25 year history, in one device. Obviously, we wouldn’t expect the next-gen console to include a UMD slot, but digital downloads from the PlayStation Store should work fine when it comes to the platform holder’s portables. As for the PS4, PS3, PS2, and PSone – well, physical discs or digital downloads should get the job done, right?
But hang on a minute, let’s back up, shall we? So far, the Japanese giant has only officially confirmed PS4 backwards compatibility, and it’s beyond optimistic to expect anything else. In fact, the firm’s said that it’s “verifying whether it can secure full” PS4 functionality, suggesting there may be some stragglers that won’t work on its next-gen device. Honestly, we wouldn’t worry too much about that – there’ll probably be a small list of titles that don’t play nicely with the new hardware, but we imagine you’ll be able to count them on your hand.
So why the sudden discussion about consoles prior to the company’s current one? Well, there have been some vague comments about the PS5 being as much about the future as it is about the past, suggesting that Sony is eager to tap into its legacy in a meaningful way. It could do this in a number of different ways: maybe it has a marketing scheme lined up that leans on nostalgia? Perhaps it’s planning more MediEvil-esque remakes – after all, Demon’s Souls is widely rumoured to be Bluepoint’s next project? Or perhaps it has bigger plans for backwards compatibility in mind?
We must admit, we’ve been looking at Microsoft’s work on the Xbox with envy for a while now – it’s managed to find a way to bring all of the meaningful titles in its back catalogue to the Xbox One, and many are significantly enhanced when running on its most powerful machine. The problem, and with the greatest of respect to the folks at Redmond, is that Xbox doesn’t really have a history worth celebrating – certainly not to the levels that Sony and, even more impressively, Nintendo do. But the idea of all generations, unified in one place, is a compelling one.
So what are the problems, then? Well, we already know that the PS4 can run PS2 games, as testified by the small library of ports available from the PlayStation Store. Exactly why the Japanese giant ceased supporting this initiative is a mystery to us, as we really enjoyed earning Trophies in some of these classic games, but perhaps the porting process was too slow – there were rumblings that the requisite addition of virtual trinkets actually put some publishers off, despite the manufacturer submitting a patent a few years back which seemed to suggest a streamlined approach.
There’s also, believe it or not, a PSP emulator built into the PS4; remastered titles like PaRappa the Rapper and LocoRoco run on this, and it’s been hacked to support other software with mixed results. We can’t imagine there’ll be too much difficulty adding a PSone support to the PS5, so that just leaves the PS3 and PS Vita. In the latter’s case, only back touch really should represent a headache, but this is a problem that the PlayStation TV also faced, and most of the library plays fine on the ill-fated streaming box.
Which just leaves the PS3 and its infamous CELL architecture – a perennial thorn in the platform holder’s side. Is it possible? We’re not engineers so we can’t possibly say, but one would imagine that the brute power of the PS5 should bring us one step closer to compatibility – although whether it would be fit for purpose across a large enough spread of the system’s software library is entirely up for debate. If, indeed, the organisation is targeting full backwards compatibility with its previous systems, then PS3 would have to be a priority; it’d be odd for it to be excluded.
So where’s the incentive for Sony? As far as we’re concerned, it’s all about ecosystem. The PlayStation Store has become an almighty cash cow for the company, and if it could re-license classic titles for sale on its digital plaza, there’s so much software it could potentially sell. With PS4 backwards compatibility alone, the organisation is going to make serious money flogging legacy software to PS5 owners; imagine if that extended to all of the older appliances in its library as well.
There’s also the matter of PlayStation Now, which is becoming an increased area of importance for Sony; competitors like Google and Microsoft may be able to tout superior technology, but few can compete with PlayStation’s gigantic back catalogue of content – only really Nintendo, in fact, and the Mario maker hasn’t indicated that it wants to join the streaming race just yet. The manufacturer already has a compelling proposition with its current $9.99 subscription spanning PS4 and PS3 games – consider the 800 or so titles already available being bolstered by every PlayStation console ever made.
Is it a pipedream? Honestly, we don’t think you should hold your breath for anything like this. But the convenience of being able to pop in any PlayStation disc and play it on the PS5 paired with the very real commercial advantage of selling software from five generations of formats is a mouth-watering one. Sony’s flagship gaming brand will celebrate its 25th anniversary this year: we can’t think of a better way to mark the occasion than an announcement largely in line with what we’ve envisioned in this article.
Is the dream of full PS5 backwards compatibility little more than a pipedream? Would you actually take advantage of such wide-ranging legacy support if it was an option? Imagine the possibilities in the comments section below.
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I think I would actually cry if this was announced at the reveal event. There are lots of PS2, PS3 and PS4 games I'd love to play again
I’d be extremely happy if it read discs from all 4 home platforms and allowed digital for all 6 platforms. I have over 400 games spread over my ps1 (32), ps2(128), ps3(139), ps4(33), psvita(64) and psp(22). Thats only physical. Digital I have over 200 games from sales and over 300 games from 7+ years of ps+.
If it can play ps2 games than wow. I could play scarface the world is yours.cold fear.word up son
If it could and if they had a trophy patch for all of the old games Sony Would Automatically Win Next Gen The Only Thing That Could Match it Would Be If Nintendo Did The Same Thing
"What if the PS5 could play games from every Playstation console?"
Short answer - I'd never leave my house again.
I think it's licensing issue rather than emulation/console power, when ps1 and ps2 are made there's no digital games on the market (xbox launch in 2001 while ps2 in 2000), so sony lack the license to sells them on their digital store.
If ps5 has BC with all previous ps console I think it will be digital only since not many people still have their ps1 and ps2 disc,.
If it COULD play physical discs from just the PS1, PS2 and PS4 then there's only one thing I'd have to say to Sony
Sadly, because of finances, I have not been able to keep my old consoles as I’ve upgraded to the new ones.
Now I have a son who loves games I have wanted to show him some of the games I used to love growing up and experience them with him.
If Ps5 can give me that it opportunity it would just be awesome.
It would be extremely convenient, wouldn't it? Not sure how feasible it'd actually be, though.
I'd settle for Sony being able to get PS4 bc up and running on ps5 at launch...
There's plenty of wonderful games on past consoles that I've missed. I'm very doubtful of these rumours, but it would be a huge selling point for me.
Sony really need to tap into there history and catalogue of games, as much as I love seeing Medievil, Parappa, Crash & Spyro (both out of Sony's control obviously) returning it would be amazing to just chuck any Playstation branded disc into the newest machine.
I'm hopeful it comes but it would be amazing if they get PS3 & PS4 backwards compatibility in at launch.
@b1ackjack why didn't you get to play them?
I think I'd be fine with PS1 and PS2 emulation. Just for the novelty of playing some classic games. Otherwise I'm all set.
I’d love for this to cover the PS1-4, digitally and with the discs. I have serious doubts whether the PS3 would be emulated though, given the CELL complication. I’d be over the moon if it did, natch!
I’m less bothered about the handhelds, purely because I’m thinking about scaling from their screen to full-size TV. I have both handhelds and adore my Vita, so I’m not anti-handheld lol.
Even if PS4 bc was out of the box and the other systems had a staggered approach, that’d be grand.
I do expect PS3 gaming to be available purely through PSNow though.
Sony prove me wrong!!
What's making me think it won't happen is how the PS1 classics on PS3/SP/Vita kinda died off quick and so did the PS2 games on PS4 .
But I'm hopeful
Would love to play Tenchu 3 again.
If sony offered a digital download to every game they ever published ever....damn. Not happening lol. If they can figure out ps3 and allow a wider library of ps1 and 2 games to be available that'd be sweet
Um...the PlayStation TV plays barely any games of worth, especially if you're not always connected to the internet.
As far as being able to play all games on all legacy platforms, highly unlikely, but if the could get 50-100 high profile games working for each system, it could be somewhat realistic, and be a system seller for a hell of a lot of older gamers.
I'm not sure they would want to lose the marketing power of the Playstation Now's pure selling point of playing the older games. For me, I'd like the PS4 games to play more, as those are the ones I don't want to lose the ability to play. But, playing the retro games would be nice. I still have my PS3, so I can still switch between them, but my library of PS4 games far surpasses any I have for the PS3--especially on the digital side.
i'd prefer PS3 backwards compatibility more than any of the others, it's got a much better/broader library than PS4 imo. i guess being able to play a few vita titles like uncharted : golden abyss or killzone mercenary on a big screen would be nice. in the remaster/remake generation, i'm surprised sony didn't consider of these. but i own physical versions of both of those, and wouldn't buy the vita version again digitally, no matter how cheap they were.
however, i reckon that PS3 backwards compatibility is a non-starter, no matter how powerful the PS5's CPU is.
While it would be cool, personally I doubt I'd got back past the ps4. Maybe a few select Ps3 games but there are just TOO many new games to keep up with much less going back a 20+year catalog for me.
i have a big question in mind and that's is:
if PS5 will be a backward compatible with PS4 titles, will that make them be playable at 60 FPS or higher?
I think the games developers have the decision here as almost all of them lock their title to 30 FPS.
@PhantomXIII They finally managed to make MGS4 boot so the emulation’s getting there! It’s impressive just how heavily the decision to use Cell is affecting us even now. You’d think there’d be a point where sheer power could win through but it’s not quite there yet.
If it can run my US copy of Legend of Dragoon on PS5 ill be happy.
One system that could run all of my PS games?
It won't happen. If it DID, though... well, I'd be willing to shell out a pretty healthy amount of money for it, and would probably make it a priority purchase.
I'd LOVE PS3 backwards compatibility so I could finally play games like MGS4 and Tokyo Jungle without resorting to streaming.
@leucocyte I have too disagree the PS3 had less games i liked and most of the ones i loved are remastered or remade.
I have a BC PS3 that plays PS1 and 2, and to be honest I've hardly used it for at least a year. PS4 gets all the attention in my house, there's just too many great new games to play.
Saying that, if the PS5 is able to properly upscale old games, that'd be very interesting. PS1 in particular doesn't play that nicely with many modern TVs.
BC with PS4 is essential though, in my view. The library is immense and the games are still coming thick and fast.
Anyway, I fully expect any back compatibility pre-PS4 to be streaming or at most digital download based. There is minimal money to be made from playing old discs.
I have a dream...
I only care if they do backwards compatibility if they continue trophy support for them. Otherwise I have no interest in replaying those legacy titles.
I am holding my breath to be able to play titles without internet connection that currently require one. Ple----ase Sony, consider this?
Would instantly make it the greatest PlayStation console of all time
My vote is for PS3 & PS4 compatibility. Survey wouldn't let me choose both.
I'd love to play Kingdoms Of Amalur: Reckoning again.
i hope for PS3 and PS4 bc, that would be nice.
People want more ps3 bc than ps4 bc?
That's weird!
Anyway I'll have the real pill. Cheers!
I'd be delighted if I could play Ultimate Ghouls n Ghosts. Anything else is just a bonus
The Sony system that desperately needs emulation is PS2.
PS1 is already enhanced and emulated on PS3, which is fine.
PS3 and PS4 are already HD. PS2 is only really jaggie Sony stepchild...
Ridge racer! Tony Hawk's Pro skater 3! Burnout 3! NFS Underground! Timesplitters! Star Wars Battlefront (the good one)!
Ive already gotten all i can from past generations, im ready to move ahead. Ps4 compatibility would be cool though...... Actually no, scratch that! I JUST bought a pro days ago lol.
On a serious note though i hope our ps store ps4 purchases will work on ps5
It seems exciting at first but then you realise you can play all previous Sony consoles on PC. This kind of thing already exists. What's more that games look and run better than they originally did, unlike the emulated PS2 games on PS4 like Rogue Galaxy. I have my PC connected to my TV and the DS4 works with Windows, so personally the PS5 being fully backwards compatible wouldn't add anything.
Just bought the jak & daxter collection on my PS4 so I'd be abit disappointed if all PS4 games were supported except the PS2 games they ported to ps4
If PS5 could play original discs all the way back to PS1 and supported downloads of the PSP and PS Vita games - It would win me over in a heartbeat!
But as it stands, only supporting PS4 and PS5 - and there being almost no currently announced PS5 games that interest me - it will be a long time before I even consider buying a PS5.
As a middle ground if they pushed backwards compatibility at least all the way to PS3, they'd win me over, then I could box my PS3 and PS4 up and put them in the closet and have just one primary Sony machine.
More people want PS3 backwards compatibility than PS4?? WHUUUUT?
That completely took me by surprise. I have probably... No, I have definitely invested thousands of pounds on my digital PS4 collection. There is no way I'd choose PS3 compatibility, over PS4 compatibility.
In total seriousness, in this day and age where you're competing against the likes of Steam who will hold any game you buy, and any period, indefinitely, Sony more or less had to capitulate to backwards compatibility if they were serious about retaining customer base.
I'm not saying I wouldn't buy a PS5 if it didn't have PS4 compatibility, but it would seriously leave me with a bad taste in my mouth, that I would have to keep my old PS4 around just to play my legacy games.
It makes the most sense what they've done, from a business perspective, and to keep dedicated Sony fans happy.
This is absolutely my dream. Can’t see it happening though
Are we throwing realism out of window?
Ok. Then I'd play a couple of Ninty and Xbox games as well, since why not.
42% actually believe it will run ps3 games. I'd expect that from uninformed casuals, but people who frequent video game sites? Come on now.
Ok, I'm out.
PS3 might still be a bridge too far to be useful but PS1 and PS2 compatibility should be so easy by now. I've tried playing PS1 games via my PS3 and to be honest they look shocking on a 40+ inch TV. Nostalgia gives some serious rose tinted glasses!
Back when I had my 60Gb PS3, the upscaled and smoothed PS2 on the other hand still looks fine (remember the PS2 was born in the era of widescreen TVs )
@Flaming_Kaiser - i haven't bought a PS4 game in 18 months. i think i bought 3 times as many games on PS3. if i was only able to keep 10 PS4 games, it probably wouldn't be that difficult a choice for me.
@playstation1995 cold fear an underrated gem word up son ✋
It would be amazing if it could do it with physical discs, but still the most important thing for PS5 needs to be new games, new IPs and exclusives - that will always be paramount for any console.
@Oldiebutnoobie. I agree.word up son
I'd say for me, while BC is a good thing in theory, I never actually play any older games once a newer version is out except briefly for nostalgia.
I'm also not generally a person to play a game multiple times for different endings. Games are too long as it is. Once and move on and I still have a staggeringly big backlog.
I would love it if the PS5 could run discs from PS1, PS2, and PS3 along with PS4 but I seriously doubt it.
As long as we get backwards compatibility with the PS4, I'll be happy.
Sony would do better if they focus their attention on adding value to backward compatible PS4 titles. Giving these titles 4K/60fps or even just 60fps will drive early adoption of the PS5 since there are so many PS4 users.
Tbh if Sony really wanted to go all out they should include every single past sony platform, including psp and vita games.
Just one idea, as far as physical vita and psp games are concerned, they could just create an extension device that allows psp and vita owners to place their physical games into it and it will read said game and just download it from psn, similar to xbox one's backwards compatibility with 360 and xb gen 1 discs.
If you don't own any vita of psp games then that's where ps store would come in to allow new owners to just buy them from the store. This method would actually allow Sony to kill a flock of birds with one stone because now if you wish for physical, digital, streaming (don't know why but to each their own), or something similar to a legacy console (ps1 mini, ps2 mini, ps3 mini, psp mini, vita mini) then this would solve said problem easily and could be a a main selling point for ps5.
From all the noise coming from Sony and all the sound bites if this isn’t the case it’ll be baffling... so in short yes I now expect it full BC.
I didn’t until all their comments. If it turns out just to be PS4 wow. Just wow.
Ps4 & Ps3 would be nice i wonder how many people still have Ps2 games & Ps1.
They could bring out PS5 that plays Ps5 & Ps4 games and a whole different system that plays all eras like an ultimate Ps5.
PS Now basically makes this a pipedream.
Realistically we can hope for PS4 backwards compatibility and an expanded PS Now library.
In 5 years time, PS Now will be more mainstream and internet speeds are already increasing. Cloud gaming is the future
Maybe it's not such a pipe dream after all https://wccftech.com/playstation-5-natively-play-older-playstation-games/amp/#click=https://t.co/Me6FM61fjC
@leucocyte I have 15 PS3 games left and 50 PS4 i think my PS4 had more then enough choice for me.
@Flaming_Kaiser - i have more than 150 PS3 discs in the attic, but i played about 200 or so (and yes, there were quite a number of total duds in that). i think i have about 50 or so on PS4, but about half of those are from the first 18 months of PS4, most of which aren't that great. i just don't really like where modern gaming is going to be honest. games-as-a-service turns fun into a chore, endless open world borefests, games with post-release "roadmaps" months before they launch, £40 dlc before a game is even out, season passes....
@leucocyte I dont have that kind of cash i buy new and only what i really like. Little older now too i almost buy nothing digital. I have 3 servicegames which i never finish somehow because i agree liveserviceeeeeeeeee is as fun as going too work. Im a big fan of the better indie games and RPG's i think i own all exclusive games only not the sportgames. I say 40 but maybe i should look what limited run games i have. Horizon Zero Dawn was brilliant
What games do you like? I like RPG, Hack and Slash, Platformers, 2D games, strategygames.
Here is my official prediction.
PS5 will release with Full support for backward compatable games from PS1-PS4 era.
However, it will not simply be (what you own will be playable)
Basically owning a PS5 and PS plus with PS5 will come with a PSnow sub. That PSnow sub will include the entire digital library of Playstation extending as far back as PS1. There will obviously be some games missing from that lineup - and there may be a price hike to include that... but that is my prediction.
Is not going Support all of the systems
If it Support ps4 games i will be happy
@BambooBushido has the word Rumour. Is not going support all 3 systems
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