An E3 2018 story so predictable we could have penned it ten days ago and published it when it was confirmed: Fortnite will not feature cross-console play on the PlayStation 4 as Sony doesn’t allow it. While the Nintendo Switch newcomers will be able to play with Xbox One, PC, and mobile players, any PS4 peasants will be forced to make do with cross-play across PC and mobile only.
This is a story that we’ve been writing about for over a year now, and it’s one of those where the platform holder is between a rock and a hard place: there’s no doubt it looks bad in this case, but it also has the largest install base and the least to gain by supporting it. It’s a lose-lose situation for Sony, a win-win for its competitors, and a pain in the ass for consumers.
What’s the solution? Honestly, we haven’t got a clue – it probably all comes down to how many people truly care.
Update (18:45 BST): It seems if you've also previously played Fortnite on the PS4, you need to create a new Epic account to login on the Switch. This is presumably to protect purchases that may have been made through the PlayStation Network, but we'll try and get some clarification on the matter.
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Really don't care.
But I can see why they won't, and I think they're getting too much flak for it. Well, I say "too much", but it's basically a relatively small but vocal internet minority, as many of these things are.
EDIT in response to the update: And here we have another reason why Sony may not be keen, other than just being stubborn. They presumably spent a lot of money on security measures after the hack, and if you're going to start needing multiple network logins to play games, it potentially opens up several security issues.
doesn't matter, the only people who really care are PS Haters, XB fanboys and game journalists
cross platform play is only really needed when you don't have the numbers playing them on certain platforms and right now PS4 doesn't have that issue
Ridiculous!
And having to create another acc for Switch is even worse
There's been so much whingeing on the matter I was under the assumption that it wasn't even cross-play with the PC. Huh.
I get cross play not being an option but not even allowing someone to use the same epic account is ridiculous. Very off putting to say the least, come on Sony!
You cant even transfer your PS4 progress via your Epic not Sony account? WHY?
@FullbringIchigo @SlimDrizzyLamar Cross play allows people on different platforms to play with each other. You don't have to be a "hater" to want or care about cross play. I see a future where that feature is STANDARD in multiplayer games. Wouldn't that be something? Buy a game on whatever platform you own and know that you can play it with your friends regardless of what platform they own.
Bad move by Sony. Just give me options. I'm not in a prison or a kindergarten...
@PokeMario then whats the point in having separate console platforms?
might as well have one mega system with a complete monopoly on the market, which would lead to stagnation
plus what if say XBL is down but PSN isn't would that effect everyone's online on that game and what about DLC
most cross platform games use just ONE service (minecraft uses XBL for example no matter what system your using or FFXIV uses PlayOnline), it's a lot harder to connect two completely different online services to each other
and lets say they do all decide to use one service then who runs it, MS, Sony, Nintendo or all three together?
and what if playstation owners don't want to play with xbox owners (or vice versa) because say the controller gives them an advantage in certain games (like keyboard and mouse on P.C in FPS games)
what about P.C users who use mods, how might that affect console users who can't
consoles are closed systems for a reason, you buy a PlayStation to have the PlayStation experience, one only they can give same as buying an XBOX or Nintendo
you don't buy a PlayStation to have XBOX on it (or again vice versa)
so no i don't think it would be great if they was all together and as for what my friends play, we all play the same system anyway so cross platform isn't important
It’s no big deal. It’s not like it’s hard to find new people on any console. Hose who are angry at this are the people who want a reason to hate Sony.
@FullbringIchigo You know in cross platform games like Rocket League, Fortnite and Minecraft there is a very visible toggle for playing with users on other systems right?
So if you dont want to play with Xbox because their controller can give an advantage or PC because the potential of mod interference, you can just play with your own install base.
@FullbringIchigo
"then whats the point in having separate console platforms?"
Exclusive games, exclusive features (like Switch's portability), prefer that console's controller, etc.
"plus what if say XBL is down but PSN isn't would that effect everyone's online"
Not sure why it would unless, as you later mention, it's like Minecraft where it's run by XBL.
"and what about DLC"
What about it?
"most cross platform games use just ONE service (minecraft uses XBL for example no matter what system your using or FFXIV uses PlayOnline), it's a lot harder to connect two completely different online services to each other"
Microsoft owns Minecraft which is why they use XBL, but for most multiplatform games I would expect the third party publisher to control the service, like how Square Enix uses PlayOnline as you mentioned.
"and what if playstation owners don't want to play with xbox owners (or vice versa) because say the controller gives them an advantage in certain games (like keyboard and mouse on P.C in FPS games)"
The differences between Xbox and PlayStation controllers are miniscule compared to the difference between a controller and a PC, I don't see it giving one console that big of an advantage over the other. A bigger concern would be PC players having the advantage, but there's already been plenty of games that have crossplay with PC and either PS4 or Xbox One and I haven't seen anyone complain, mainly for the reason that Kunckles-Fajita describes above.
"what about P.C users who use mods, how might that affect console users who can't"
I usually don't use mods so I'm not to educated on the subject so correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding most online games ban players for using mods.
"you don't buy a PlayStation to have XBOX on it (or again vice versa)"
You'll still have the interface of a PlayStation console, the controller of a PlayStation console, and the exclusives of a PlayStation console. But if your friend prefers Xbox but wants to play with you, you'll be able to without having to buy another console.
"so no i don't think it would be great if they was all together and as for what my friends play, we all play the same system anyway so cross platform isn't important"
Just because it wouldn't benefit you doesn't mean there aren't tons of other people that would be benefited by crossplay.
Obviously there are some kinks that would need to be worked out but this isn't rocket science, I'm sure the companies would be able to work it out.
@PokeMario as you said it could work but there are kinks to sort out but one thing people are forgetting is what if Sony just don't want to after all with that huge hack years ago perhaps Sony just aint willing to open up their system and take the risk of it happening again
Don't care nor about the game which according to my humble opinion is a waste of time and effort nor to cross play which never existed before. I care about games that matter fantastic single player experience with a recognizable way forward and a little touch of multiplayer where it matters.
We know Sony has the 'highest' user base in the console sector right now BUT I doubt you can verify how many PC gamers there is. I know that install base is tied to 'sales' of a console and that is a 'general' figure and with multiple iterations, its unlikely that each 'sale' is to a unique and additional gamer. I know MS too has this situation so its not just Sony but I count as '2' people having bought a PS4 and a PS4 Pro. My PS4 was not traded in so another person could be using that.
Point is that if Sony has sold 75m PS4, PS4 Slims and PS4 Pro's, that doesn't mean that there are 75m in the install base. I know the same goes with Xbox Ones, the Slim and the X too, less so with the Switch (although a number could be sat in stores that people have traded in) but is there any indication as to how many PC gamers there are?
Personally, I think the benefits of cross-platform gaming outweigh any potential issues. I know Sony will allow it with PC gamers in this situation but if they are isolated, it becomes 'Sony' install base vs the rest of the gamers and that 'could' have an influence on peoples decisions to buy. Buy an Xbox, PC or Switch and play with the largest group of gamers, play with friends regardless of your own personal platform choice or be locked to just Sony and Sony's user base. Don't want an Xbox but your friends are on that, fine buy a Switch or PC instead and still play with your friends. If Sony were 'part' of that one massive family of gamers, then if Sony don't want an Xbox, PC or Switch but still want to play MP with their friends on those platforms, they can.
People tell me that the Exclusives matter so much - more than what console your friends have, then Sony's first Party games should be strong enough to sell the console. However, if its more down to buying a console that your friends have to play games with them, then there maybe a reason to fight against cross-platform gaming.
Its not as if online gaming is 'fair' or 'equal' as so many other factors play a part - Internet, distance from server, display you use etc. Now you also have different spec consoles and games like BF1 show that PS4 gamers have up to a 15/20fps deficit on those using a Pro (depending on modes etc) - both may be capped to 60fps but the PS4 users have much greater performance issues.
It can also make online gaming a lot better as it can pair you up with gamers that are in your locale so better 'ping' and much easier to find games in 'less popular' modes due to much higher population of gamers. Take TF2 for example, it maybe difficult to find gamers in your area playing your favourite mode but if it was cross platform, then you would stand a much better chance of getting a match and with decent 'ping' too.
It doesn't bother me, not too much as I have both consoles anyway - and probably would if this situation changed. It would be cool though to play the games on whichever console I felt like playing on and still play with my friends on either/both consoles....
The solutions is simple, xbox and switch player base must be as big as ps4 first then maybe there will be news about cross platform play. Although I don't think microsoft want to do it if their player base is big enough lol.
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