Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

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Does anyone know how to go about getting a refund for a recently purchased digital game from the Microsoft Store? My son used my bank card yesterday without my consent and bought a game for £49.99, what’s worse he’s already got the game on disc! I’ve went on the Microsoft account and to purchase history but there’s no option to claim a refund but I’ve heard people buying games, not liking it then getting refunded?

Sea of Thieves for PC gets a 68 on Metacritic, and a 70 on Xbox One, at least for now. Many reviewers say the game is incredibly repetitive. That isn't looking good!

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@MaccaMUFC I don't think you can. The only way would be to contact MS support and see if they would be lenient on this one occasion. I have also been in your position, my son kindly bought me the LEGO Movie game and that prompted me to change some of my settings that I hadn't thought about previously.

@crippyd I’m hoping that if they don’t refund the money back in my bank that they’ll at least restrict the game my son bought (like having to re-purchase to own again) and put the £49.99 into my Xbox account, at least then I could actually buy upcoming games I’m wanting then the money wouldn’t be a waste. I know about the settings that can restrict kids buying stuff like needing a password or pass key with the controller before the purchase can go ahead but my son has his own Xbox and there was no bank details on it till he put mine in without me knowing.

Edit: Just got off the phone to Support and they are refunding me the £49.99 within the next few days, so happy with that. I was asked if I had asked for a refund in the last 12 months, which I haven’t, so I’m guessing receiving a refund would only happen once a year?

@MaccaMUFC That's a result for you. I set up a pass key to buy anything on my account after my incident and gave my son a stern talking to.
My lad has my old One after I got the X and I've locked his account down. There's no card attached or anything like that. He does get the benefit of my Gold as that one is my home console, but due to his age he doesn't play online except for co op with one of his pals.

@Octane I think it's more for the group play experience than anything. Destiny for example is dull as dishwater, but get a decent group or a few mates in on it and it can great fun.

SoT looks great, not 'I'm going out to buy an xbox' great, but I'd probably pick it up if I had one.

@KALofKRYPTON In that case any game can be fun if you're playing it with a group, but that doesn't make it a good game IMO.

@Octane I'm not sure I understand your point.
It's designed with group play in mind and the vast majority of games involving group play are repetitive.

No it doesn't make any game automatically good, but 70/100 by no means suggests that it's bad.

@KALofKRYPTON I wasn't talking about Sea of Thieves in particular, I just don't think that multiplayer games should get a free pass, just because ''the fun is in playing together''.

About Sea of Thieves, I'm not saying an average score of 68-70 is bad per se. But it's kinda worrying when even the highest reviews on the list (Game Debate and SpazioGames) mention a lack of content and repetitive nature. It's unfortunate, because the game had the potential to be a lot more than what it currently is.

@Octane Personally, I don't think it's a free pass to judge a game based on the intended experience when that experience is borne out.

It's a shame it's looking a little shallow - but I can't say that would stop me buying it. What I've seen of it looks like a great fun time with some friends. It's not a game I'd be buying to fill huge chinks of my gaming life.

Some games are just much better multiplayer and you need to factor that in. Destiny, as mentioned, but also Resi 5, Dead Nation, Renegade Ops, Mother Russia Bleeds.. all games I consider awesome that I probably wouldn't have bothered with if not for that fact they were multiplayer.

@KALofKRYPTON Intended experience is something different. I agree with the idea that a multiplayer game should be judged as a multiplayer game. However, I don't think that the lack of content is somehow a less valid argument in a multiplayer game. All reviews I've read so far talked about a lack of content. I think it's a valid issue in that case.

@KALofKRYPTON @Octane I’ve put many hours in SoT both in the alpha beta and it’s main release, it is a good game even when sailing on your own for awhile but eventually it does get boring, even in a crew, as your just constantly doing feach quests to find treasure for gold to buy clothes, weapons and customising your ship, another quest requires getting certain things like red/white feathered chickens for merchants and another has you collecting skulls of skeleton mini-bosses. The game’s art and graphics are amazing and I read that the game will come with more content, just like GTA Online did, that was bare bones when it first released but now it’s rammed with content.

I was considering Sea of Thieves with a friend but having looked at reviews, the main issue is content and lack of progression (which is a conscious design choice).

I have heard some theories that this was pushed out the door to advertise and promote Game Pass. It has been heavily promoted with the Game Pass and is the nearest major first party release to come out after this was all announced. The, slightly conspiratorial, suspicion is that Game Pass doesn't include any content updates or DLC that you would normally get with an actual copy of the game, therefore users would have to pay to get future updates.

Not sure I subscribe to that as it feels a little tin foil hat but at the same time, the gameplay loop does seem to be, get a mission, sail to an island, dig up treasure, trade for a cosmetic item and repeat. It feels very No Man Sky in the sense of more content being worked on (not that it was overpromised).

I think it looks quite cool, the water and art style looks amazing and would be awesome with a few friends sailing a ship.

@Rudy_Manchego it does look like it has a lot of potential but they did a No Mans Sky and launched with nothing to do but IF they add some new stuff with updates i'll jump in but right now i don't think it's worth it

and i also don't think it was launched early for Game Pass but lets be honest would it be surprising if it was? you know how crappy a lot of big game companies are working now a days

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@BAMozzy WAIT AC: SYNDICATE!

Sweet ^_^ that's the only AC game i never got round to buying

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@FullbringIchigo @KratosMD It is a good month and arguably better than PS+ offerings - although as usual it is helped by Backwards Compatibility. I am looking forward to both Assassins Creed: Unity and Mad Max on the PS4 - I say looking forward to but I still have games I paid for to play and finish off. I have already have, played and beaten Dead Space 2 but I gave up on AC after 4 so I don't have Unity or Syndicate (yet). I don't know how Syndicate will feel after Origins which I loved and completed (inc both DLC's too).

@KratosMD Forza 5 was kinda rushed and felt lacking after 4 and it was a 'launch' game BUT they still had 2yrs and a lot of games they could have taken tracks and cars from to give it more. 6 was a return but 7 is even better as the games 'dynamic' weather has much greater impact than 6's more 'cosmetic' feeling weather. Visually 7 is a step up too - maybe because it was built for the 'X' first and foremost with the PC as a strong secondary consideration too where as 6 was built for the base console only. 6 was then ported to PC and adapted but it was still built for the base console as the only consideration at that time. Even FH3 was built with 4k and PC's in mind - as shown at E3 2016 when they demoed the game running on a 4k PC as well and how 4 players with 4 different devices (inc the S in HDR and a 4k PC gamer) could seemlessly join up in the same game. Its funny now though that FH2 is the 'worst' looking game on XB1X as the first 'Horizon' (XB360 game) now runs flawlessly in 4k.

The one thing that disappoints me with Forza is all the 'car pack' DLC's. In 4 (maybe earlier ones too but 4 I remember particularly but could have been the special edition version I had), these came with a second disc that you could install to your HDD to have extra cars. Its not that 'disappointing' but its still a little disappointing. At least 7 for example has around 700 cars but both FH3 and Forza add the DLC cars in the lists which annoys me too - they should only show up if you buy them...

I am happy to make do with the cars the game launches with but these games are more an aside - something different to do when I want a break from some intense story action rather than a 'main' game for me. I don't usually finish 'everything' in these although with 4, I think I made it to 8 or 9 years in my career seasons.