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Pizzamorg

Nintendo Life's review made it sound like the opening part of Scarlet was a slog, but it went by really quickly for me and I'm already in the open world carving my path. The map is so big and full of things to see and do, I can see why people have felt addicted to this so quickly!

Thanks to picking the fire starter I creamed my first gym challenge which was the bug gym leader. The little olive challenge you do beforehand is weird, but pretty funny. Not done much else yet, just enjoying myself exploring and finding/catching various Pokemon.

Ralizah wrote:

@Pizzamorg I'm neither "offended" not "triggered." And, by the way, I'd appreciate it if we lay off dismissive language like that. Let's talk to one-another as equals.
Most of the regular users on NL are perfectly well aware of the limitations of the system. If anything, it's the people who like to come in from other communities and whine about the capabilities of the system who often betray a lack of any sort of mature perspective on the issue.

Last gen, I primarily played AAA games on my PC at higher resolution and framerate targets than what the home consoles were capable of outputting at the time. But I didn't go into dedicated communities designed for fans of those systems and troll about how weak and incapable they were compared to my rig, or how [insert framerate/resolution target] is "unacceptable" in [current year]. It's profoundly childish behavior, y'know?

Anyway, you said:
"People who say they aren't bothered by hardware issues and then pretend like the hardware issues aren't there period. This to me is cope."

Not being bothered by a fact and pretending a fact doesn't exist are two ENTIRELY different things. I've seen the former happen many times, but, for the life of me, I don't recall the latter ever happening. Care to reference an example?

My apologies. Your post came across very strong, so I thought I hit a nerve. If I hadn't, then my bad!

The rest of the post I am not fully sure what you are referencing, me or generally? Cause I am a regular of NL, we have spoken loads of times over there 😂 I have never gone onto that forum only to talk about the weakness of the hardware, but if it is pertinent to a discussion - such as with the new Pokemon game, it is of course raised.

If you are speaking generally, then yeah, people joining that forum to talk about how the console sucks would suck, but I am not sure I have ever experienced that either?

(I also ain't trawling the forum to find you the countless examples of cope over there on NL as much as you won't show me the evidence of proverbial invaders).

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PS5 Games currently playing: GOW Ragnarok. Spider-Man Remastered.
Switch Games currently playing: Pokemon Scarlet and Tactics Ogre

nessisonett

@Ralizah I think the fact that I can’t even see who you’re replying to probably says a lot. Also the fact they clearly speak in buzzwords like ‘cope’ and ‘triggered’. The best thing about these forums is the ability to have mature conversations and if someone can’t do that, then it’s not really worth engaging!

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Ralizah

@Pizzamorg It's fine. Tone can be hard to detect on the internet.

Anyway, I'm not passive-aggressively making digs at you. We've talked plenty of times, and I've frequently defended your posting style, since I do think there is some value in people offering critical viewpoints on any forum as long as they're not overly inflammatory, and your posts usually aren't. I didn't mean to 'other' you or imply you weren't also a regular.

In terms of trolls, I was thinking of... other users, who would go onto NL, make inflammatory posts, receive pushback, and then run off to their usual haunts to cry about it. Although they seem to mostly have moved on at this point.

All the same, I do think your particular complaint in this thread isn't... well, based in reality. I don't need you to trawl for specific examples. If it happens enough to be worth mentioning, then surely you can provide a basic anecdote about this happening, right?

There's a difference between denying reality and accepting the limitations of a piece of hardware. What I frequently see is people trying to spread discontent about how the hardware operates, and Nintendo fans pushing back against that. I don't really see Nintendo fans outright denying objective facts about how the platform operates, though.

Is there some fanboyish behavior on NL? Sure. There's plenty here as well. It's probably inevitable in any fan community.

@nessisonett You know, it's interesting. I have a TON of people on my ignore list, but very rarely do I not see full conversations on forums like NL or PS. Probably a good sign.

It's been useful for making article comment sections tolerable, though.

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Pizzamorg

I beat my first Titan! It was kinda... nothing really? Just a bigger version of a regular Pokemon and it had no level so I was fighting it with a level 4 Flamigo I picked up along the way (I can't believe the game includes a literal Flamingo btw with it just taking one letter out of the name).

I'm catching quite a lot of weird Pokemon on my journey already, I dunno how much are exclusive to this generation or not, but I'm creating quite the carnival of freaks.

I also thought that Crystal form thing was kinda nothing in the lead up, and it is kinda silly with the hat, but I actually quite like the effects it adds to attacks and the dramatic shattering when the Pokemon faints. I miss Dynamaxing though.

Ralizah wrote:

All the same, I do think your particular complaint in this thread isn't... well, based in reality. I don't need you to trawl for specific examples. If it happens enough to be worth mentioning, then surely you can provide a basic anecdote about this happening, right?

There's a difference between denying reality and accepting the limitations of a piece of hardware. What I frequently see is people trying to spread discontent about how the hardware operates, and Nintendo fans pushing back against that. I don't really see Nintendo fans outright denying objective facts about how the platform operates, though.

Is there some fanboyish behavior on NL? Sure. There's plenty here as well. It's probably inevitable in any fan community.

Had you asked me a year ago, I probably could have. However, I long discovered it is a lost cause to discuss such things over there. People will put their backs up and the discussion just circles the drain, so I have mostly tried to avoid such discussions on there unless it is started by someone else and everyone is on the same page (like over in the Pokemon thread - although I dodge that now, because some people threatened to post stuff now the game was out and I don't want any spoilers).

There is a reason I have so many people on my ignore list on NL and vice versa, I clashed with a lot of people there who only want to see the good and don't want to even face the idea the bad exists. I guess some would say it commendable, I just found it a graveyard for any kind of proper discussion about anything.

Although if that person you tagged me has me on their ignore list or the other way around, I don't remember why, I don't remember who they are at all 😅

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PC games currently playing: Nothing.
PS5 Games currently playing: GOW Ragnarok. Spider-Man Remastered.
Switch Games currently playing: Pokemon Scarlet and Tactics Ogre

Octane

I'm about a third in the game I think, and it has already hard crashed three times.

Octane

Ralizah

Here's the expectedly harsh DF breakdown of Scarlet/Violet. To dispel that 'weak Switch can't handle big open world games' narrative some people are adopting to defend the game, they compare and contrast it with titles such as Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Breath of the Wild, and Game Freak's own Pokemon Legends: Arceus.

It's a shame, because Scarlet/Violet do seem like fun games, despite everything. I wonder if we'll eventually hear Cyberpunk 2077-esque reports about crunched developers desperate to string a coherent product together to meet a deadline.

@Octane You see a buggy, unfinished game rushed out to launch.

I see a speedrunning strat.

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kyleforrester87

@Ralizah Crazy seeing it next to Arceus, it looks really rough. Arceus had its problems but I thought it actually looked pretty nice a lot of the time, especially the sky and some of the lighting.

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Ralizah

@kyleforrester87 It really is a step down in almost every way. Arceus looks better (the trees are still pretty ugly, but I only expect so much from this dev), performs MUCH better, was relatively bug-free, had greater draw distances, was significantly higher res both docked and undocked, featured responsive gyro aiming for when you threw a pokeball, and, of course, really shook up the entire gameplay loop of Pokemon, where you could catch Pokemon out in the field instead of being yanked to a separate battle screen every time, had to avoid being ambushed by wild Pokemon, etc. It was also surprisingly tough for a Pokemon game.

If you married all of those improvements to a game with multiple towns, gym battles, etc., you'd have close to an ideal 3D Pokemon game. Which Scarlet/Violet could have been if they'd been allowed to develop something according to a more realistic timetable.

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Octane

@Ralizah SV doesn't have the option to throw Poke Balls at wild Pokemon, that's fine by me. You can however throw out your first Pokemon to auto-battle wild Pokemon.

What's annoying is that they removed the aim option that was present in Legends. You press R and you throw your Pokemon in a random direction. That's fine if there's one Pokemon on the overworld, but if there are a dozen, you cannot aim in a specific direction. This game is literally one step forward, ten steps backwards.

Octane

Ralizah

@Octane I've been making heavy use of Let's Go mode. It's useful and, honestly, pretty hilarious at times. The first time I used it was particularly amazing: my Pokemon ruthlessly slaughtered an entire wild tribe of Lechonk, and then proceed to hunt down and kill, via surprisingly protracted chase, a terrified straggler that attempted to flee from the carnage.

And yeah, the lack of pokeball aiming is pointless and annoying. It makes trying to target Pokemon in trees a pain. Why take that out? The aiming in Legends: Arceus worked perfectly!

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KilloWertz

If only I could attach the Pokemon name to a giant turd of a product and make millions off of it...

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LtSarge

@Octane If you hold ZL, you will lock on to the Pokémon you’re looking at.

LtSarge

Octane

@LtSarge Yeah, but if you then throw your Pokemon you initiate a regular battle, not the Let's Go mode.

Octane

KAIRU

@KilloWertz It's baffling how it released in such a woeful state.

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KilloWertz

@KAIRU Very true. Obviously some people are actually enjoying it, but it really does seem like it's almost Cyberpunk 2077 level of bad for at least some people. I don't ever plan on playing it as I'm not into Pokemon, so I will never experience it for myself, so that's about that for that for me talking about them. Unlike Cyberpunk 2077, these will never end up being great games like that is now though.

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KAIRU

@KilloWertz Yeah, all I've seen are come clips here and there on Twitter and quite a few of them looks really awful. I'm sure people are still enjoying the game, like you say, but I just wonder at what point do the amount of bugs and issues within the game begin to outweigh the enjoyment factor?

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LtSarge

@Octane I don't understand. If I hold ZL and lock on, I can either throw a Pokémon and initiate a battle with ZR or activate Let's Go mode with R and have the Pokémon in front attack the Pokémon that I'm locked on to.

LtSarge

Ralizah

It took me a bit to get into it, as the tutorial section is boring as hell, but I'm enjoying my time with Pokemon Scarlet. In spite of all of its considerable flaws, there's a fun game underneath.

Abandoning the traditional Pokemon progression structure with these last two releases is the best thing they could have done.

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