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Pizzamorg

I actually did forget the vouchers are locked behind NSO. That is a fair point. However, compared to PS Plus and Gamepass, NSO is relatively inexpensive right? Especially when you think you are effectively getting 100+ quids worth of games for 80 (or under depending on accumulated coins) quid every time. I think it is still balances, but obviously everyone's finances are unique.

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Ralizah

@KilloWertz

That's because you have an expectation created by how other companies operate. And that's fine, as far as that goes, but your argument can essentially be reduced to "Nintendo's practices are bad because they don't align with Sony's." It's a statement of preference and nothing more. Whereas I think it's "bad" that Sony doesn't offer either the option of launch day discounts on their games (Nintendo) or put their games up on subscription day one (Microsoft). But, you know, that's my own issue. I'd never say Sony not offering games cheaper at launch is a matter of fairness.

I feel the same way about the online sub, btw. I think it sucks how expensive it is to access online gameplay on PS+, even if the service is technically 'better.' I'd rather pay $20 for NSO than $50, or whatever it is now, for PS+. But it's, again, not an issue of fairness.

The voucher system actually isn't new. It was there in NA very early in the Switch life-cycle, but was pulled until recently because Nintendo of America is probably the worst major branch of the company and frequently makes dumb and shortsighted decisions. Nintendo of Europe has, I believe, always had the voucher system in place since it first launched. Regardless, my point stands: you can fairly easily find the games for less than MSRP if you pay attention to sales and online deals.

Why would I put you on ignore? Obviously I don't agree with your position on this matter, but that's hardly a reason to stop talking to you. I don't like arguments either, but, I guess, I don't really think of myself as arguing right now, just having a discussion. shrug Feel free to terminate the exchange if that's your wish, but don't let 'not wanting to be ignored' be your reason. IMO the regulars around here are pretty reasonable. We can have disagreements and still be good.

Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

PSN: Ralizah

Ralizah

@kyleforrester87 @KilloWertz I'm definitely not upset, either. Killo seems like a cool guy.

Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

PSN: Ralizah

Anti-Matter

@Kidfried
In my opinion, XBOX Series have nothing to offer for me.
No 1st party kids games like Nintendo, Game Pass idea that I never like them, 99.99% identical 3rd party multi console games with other consoles so I clearly see nothing special from XBOX Series.

I definitely choose PS4 & PS5 for my premium consoles for playing 3rd party kids games with better performance, Switch is for Nintendo stuffs and exclusive 3rd party on Switch.
Both of them offered me something.

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Anti-Matter

@Kidfried
Oh, btw.
About PS4 / PS5 games.
Since I only play kids games, it has benefit for me as the kids games I wanted to play are mostly pretty cheap so I can get more PS4 / PS5 games to collect and play.
The pricey PS4 / PS5 games only happened on bigger or AAA titles, but since I don't even play them, it has no effect for me.

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LtSarge

Well after over a dozen hours, I've finally become addicted to TotK. This past week has been a constant back and forth between "Meh, it's just more BotW" and "Wow, this game is so creative!". It hasn't stuck for me until now. The opening part made it feel like a brand new game. Then when you get to Hyrule it felt like BotW. Then you start exploring the chasm and sky and it felt like a new game again. So now I feel a balance of both aspects, which is great. There's a reason why BotW was so good and the same can be said for TotK.

My main gripe (and praise) about TotK is the building aspect. While it's rather streamlined to build stuff, it just breaks up the pacing too much. I prefer the simplicity and fluidity of BotW. It's also the reason why my favourite ability is Ascend because it's so simple and useful. Building is a cool ability though and it fits the game's openness and creativity. I'm probably going to get used to it over time in all honesty.

I've also realised that I miss BotW's abilities. The bomb has been retained, although it's now finite, but I miss being able to create platforms on water.

I have been wondering about something. I have completely forgotten about the existence of Age of Calamity. Do you miss out on stuff in TotK if you haven't played that game? I know it's a prequel to BotW, but stuff like Purah's new appearance has made me concerned that I've missed out on something. I really should play that game regardless lol. Can't believe that I forgot about it.

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LtSarge

Ralizah

@LtSarge Haven't played it, but my understanding is that AoC takes place in an alternative continuity/timeline, so technically not canon to the stories of BotW and TotK.

Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

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LtSarge

@Ralizah If that's the case, then that's good. I don't feel as much of a rush to play it then!

LtSarge

Ralizah

@LtSarge Kinda waiting to see if the successor is backwards-compatible or not, and, if so, if games on the system with unlocked framerates enjoy performance boosts.

I'm not a performance snob by any means, but the demo was really herky-jerky at points.

EXTREMELY fun, though, so I'll still play it even if it means putting up with that aspect of the game. A locked 30, or even, dare I hope, 60 would make it that much more fun.

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Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

PSN: Ralizah

KilloWertz

@Ralizah You never know with some people. I am on somebody's ignore list here and I don't know why, as occasionally I'll see a new post in a thread, but then I click on the thread and there's no post. Being put on ignore wasn't the sole reason I wanted to just put this to bed and move on though. Like I said, I don't really care to argue or whatever you want to call it in the first place. I know not everything can be rosy, but I'd still rather spend my time playing games and discussing them rather then spending time otherwise and then just getting aggravated in the process. All that and I don't really want it to continue to derail the thread.

I had forgotten that NoA was the only branch that dropped the voucher system for a while, so that's my bad there. I still don't think it's enough in the long run as it's still $10 off a game that doesn't need to be full price still, but it's whatever. I think why it's all such a touchy subject is how it kind of ruined the excitement I initially had to dive into the ecosystem after never having a Nintendo system since the NES. There's no way I'm spending $50-$60 for old games when my main console is still going to be the PS5. It'd probably be slightly different if the Switch was my main or only console.

Your judge of character must be spotty then if you think I'm cool.

@kyleforrester87 I took it as him thinking that protecting the value of games was more important than people that don't want to pay full price for an old game being stuck doing so, especially somebody like me who got a Switch 5 years in. Being used to what the other two companies do, like what I said above, it was a buzzkill to know that almost everything that would be discounted on the other systems if the Switch was their platform wasn't.

In the end, it is what it is though. I don't want it to continue to derail the thread.

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kyleforrester87

@KilloWertz to be honest I don’t buy a lot of Switch games mostly because of the price, but every game I do own is at least good if not an absolute banger - worth £50-60 when I bought them, and still now in my view!

But yes, there is far less prospect of an impulse purchase, like I might make on my PS5.

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Grumblevolcano

The biggest difference with Nintendo's pricing model nowadays is the absence of Nintendo Selects. But that usually started around 1 - 1.5 years before the system's successor launched, for example:

  • Wii U Nintendo Selects started in April 2016, Switch launched in March 2017
  • 3DS Nintendo Selects started in October 2015, Switch launched in March 2017
  • Wii Nintendo Selects started in May 2011, Wii U launched in November 2012

Of which who knows when the Switch's successor will launch, we know it's not before April 2024 because of Nintendo's comments but it feels unlikely to be later in 2024 because of GTA6. March 2025 perhaps?

Grumblevolcano

Ralizah

@KilloWertz To be clear about something, ignoring is only when you make it where you can't see someone else's posts. Blocking is an additional step, and it's what keeps them from seeing yours in addition. I like the ignore feature as it allows me to filter out fanboy posts in the article comments, but blocking, IMO, should require moderator/admin input, since it impacts the browsing experience of others.

I am also on someone's block list, and probably on more than a few ignore lists, since I'm mouthy and opinionated, but if people don't want to hear from me that badly, then it's their loss.

There are some games I would buy if they were cheaper, but they're not, so I won't. Like, those Famicom Detective Club remakes look pretty cool, but if I wasn't keen on paying full price for them at launch, I'm CERTAINLY not going to at this point. Ditto with a few other games.

Whereas even though I'm less interested in Sony's games by a considerable margin, I'm still more willing to take a punt when they're cheaper. If GoW 2018's price had never fallen as low as it did, I wouldn't have played it. And I probably won't grab the sequel until it's $10, either, since I know how low they go.

So I do know where you're coming from.

Hey, humility is a virtue.

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Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

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MidnightDragonDX

I'm like one of six Switch owners who isn't playing Tears of the Kingdom right now. XD I don't think I have any Switch games coming for the next few months after Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life, which I'm also getting for PS5. Why, you may ask? Because sometimes I like to play on the go. Mainly have my Switch for Nintendo exclusives, though.

MidnightDragonDX

LtSarge

I'd like to hear you guys' thoughts about this, but isn't a major flaw of TotK that you leave the tutorial area without having the paraglider? The game sets you loose to explore Hyrule but there are so many things you cannot do without the paraglider, such as completing certain shrines. I also haven't confirmed this for myself, but are there any Skyview towers that don't have water around them for you to land in if you don't have the paraglider?

In BotW, you leave the tutorial area with everything you need in order to explore the world. In fact, if I recall correctly, you need the paraglider in order to get off the starting area. So I find it a bit odd that the developers didn't think that a player could potentially play through a huge chunk of the game and not realise that they need the paraglider in a lot of situations.

Or maybe the idea is that the paraglider isn't necessary since you have Zonai devices in capsules?

LtSarge

Pizzamorg

Played a few more hours of TOTK today. Decided trying to play an hour or two during the week around my work is probably not the best way to enjoy this, so figured I'd wait for the weekend to do some meatier sessions.

Banged out the fire temple, for those who are looking for a more traditional Zelda experience, this will certainly scratch an itch I think, even if it won't fully satisfy it. I'd personally say much like with the sky one the journey to the temple was more interesting than the temple itself. Although I will say I thought this one had a better boss fight, I dunno I just found it all quite rudimentary mechanically really in the context of all this sandbox could offer to encounter design.

The rest of my time I spent in the open world, which is really where TOTK shines brightest for me, which is ironic as I thought it was BOTW's weakest aspect. It is so full of things to see, and do, and dynamic world events, people to help, stories or landmarks to discover or side quest chains that have to be first stumbled upon to be experienced. I play for hours and feel like I don't get a single thing done, and I mean this in the best possible way.

Just a shame these moments can and often will be spoiled by the bad controls, weak combat mechanics, occasional but sometimes severe frame drops/performance issues and poorly tuned enemies.

Life to the living, death to the dead.

Ralizah

Ah, a nice day at home.

The plan: Play a bit of Zelda, take the dog on a long walk, clean the house, continue independently studying a foreign language, maybe start a new book, etc.

The reality: Literally just play Zelda from the time I wake up until around 9 PM like a Korean NEET. Hurriedly take the dog out and rush back to my stupid game.

Literally 10+ hours of TotK. My eyes are burning omg. I have no idea how this even happened.

I will say, though, while it was wonderful seeing my husband again, the entire water temple/zora quest line was sort of weak. Doing the stuff to even find the temple was primarily obnoxious busywork, and then the temple itself has this annoying low-gravity gimmick and just plays like a divine beast dungeon, but without the fascinating theming that made those dungeons so cool. Heck, even the build-up to it was weak compared to the Zora divine beast in BotW.

We'll see how it goes, but contrary to what I heard, I actually like the story elements and setpieces in BotW more overall. Although the open world-ing is definitely hugely improved here.

Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

PSN: Ralizah

KilloWertz

Your name is @Ralizah and you have a problem...

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Switch Friend Code: SW-6448-2688-7386

Ralizah

People were predicting the bara Ganondorf design years ago lmao

@KilloWertz I may actually have to set play limitations on myself like I'm a little kid or something.

@RogerRoger At least your streamer is probably making some level of money off of it.

But yeah, the open world-y elements have been refined to the point where the game has collapsed in on itself and become a sort of gaming black hole that your free time is unable to escape from. BotW was also addicting, but sort of gave you space to work toward a few objectives at a time. You weren't bumping into new side-quests or discovering entire hidden layers of the map constantly. You didn't just, like, randomly stumble on cave systems that became hour-long timesinks.

I'm still trying to figure out how I actually feel about the density of the content here.

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Currently Playing: Fields of Mistria (PC); Cookie Clicker (PC); Metaphor: ReFantazio demo (PC)

Ugh. Men.

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