Topic: Nintendo Switch --OT--

@KratosMD Like how they dragged Metroid and Donkey Kong into the modern age. They could do that for Eternal Darkness, Sin and Punishment, Murusame Castle, Startropics, anything!

If this game started back in 2015 then it's a very "Wii U era" minded game. Which means at best it'll be average. And that's not good enough.

Everything Retro has noted publicly including the staff they hired, points to something that's not a racing game. The problem is...this is likely to be a "Stupid Nintendo" era game.

After the way the past 5 months have gone with nothing but Wii U games, old ports, Mario Tennis and a Smash Bros alongside a Wii U styled artsy Yoshi game to come later, this all feels very...Wii U.

I dont like that. I want more of 2017. Just make good games people.

I wouldn't mind a Star Fox racing game from Retro but that would be on one condition: It would need to be absolutely exceptional for it to be justified.

@YummyHappyPills Would love to see you post that on NL haha

@Shellcore If you were on NL in those years you'll find out that I wasn't the only one with those views.

The "Nintendo fans buy anything" excuse can be shot down by saying "Did you SEE 2016?"

Oh, speaking of Switch, it's not getting Rage 2 (Unsurprisingly!) https://bethesda.net/en/game/rage2

Rather than forcing myself to play something that I’m just not enjoying l decided to cut my losses with Zelda.

Just picked up Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

@Fight_Teza_Fight About time. What made you break in the end? The bad weapon system? Empty world? Lame enemies? Stamina meter? Bad inventory? Crap story?

Cant wait to see how much you dont like XC2.

Though everyone seems to love that game too...for some reason.

Don't ruin my dreams!

To be fair, it all sounds like a load of baloney to me. Why make a racer using Star Fox? The franchise that got plenty of bad rep in the past. A franchise that doesn't need a spin-off at this point. Why not use F-Zero? The franchise everyone wants to make a come back? F-Zero, big racing game with a great story mode set in a cyberpunk-ish sci-fi world structured like a Yakuza game? That's what they should be working on!

@Octane Why would Nintendo make a Paper Mario RPG with almost no RPG elements?

Why would Nintendo ruin a simple rail shooter with unintuitive controls and two different screens that you had to watch at the same time?

Why would they ignore Metroid for years and then turn into it into a coop shooter full of chibis where the star of the series doesn't even show up?

Why would they design an Animal Crossing electronic board game that you have to play with amiibo?

It's not like Nintendo is a stranger to making terrible choices.

@YummyHappyPills Pretty much all of that. I haven’t got any particular fondness for the franchise & BOTW was my first Zelda game.
So much of it I actually hate & I don’t understand the near perfect scores... .

Think I’m more mad at myself for not being able to enjoy it, as it was the system seller for me.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a much safer bet, as I enjoyed the first game.

@Fight_Teza_Fight Odd. It was the first 3D Zelda I actually enjoyed. Enjoyed being "Didn't despise".

Though I get to stream OoT soonish and I know that will just p*** off all one of my viewers XD

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is fine if you enjoy arbitrary randomisation and constant gating.

@Ralizah Fair points

@Fight_Teza_Fight Some people just aren't going to enjoy certain games.

I hated The Last of Us, despite it getting almost universal praise. And I actively dislike several of the more popular PS exclusives like Journey and Bloodborne.

It sucks when everyone else seems to love a thing, and you're just thinking: "...why?"

I adored Xenoblade Chronicles 2, personally, despite having a ton of complaints about it. It's probably my favorite console JRPG in over a decade. WAAAAAAY better than Xenoblade 1, although I seem to be alone in that opinion.

@Ralizah No, you are not alone. The power of nostalgia must explain some of this.

I don't think there's a lot of games I actively dislike but others like. I guess Skyward Sword? But the opinions are quite divided on that game, so I'm not sure that counts.

Any game sounds awful when you only list the negatives and none of the positives

@finalstan I mean, I get why it stood out at the time. When it released, there was almost nothing in the way of really good JRPGs on home consoles (Xbox 360 had the best JRPG library that gen, as sad as that might seem). In comes this massive, ambitious, open world JRPG that somehow managed to run on the piddly Wii hardware. Also, as I recall, it took Project Rainfall and a ton of complaining to even get it, alongside a few other Wii JRPGs, as Nintendo of America wasn't keen of localizing niche Wii games at the time. This probably predisposed people to feel fondly toward it.

I mean, it's definitely not a bad game... I just don't understand the praise it gets in certain respects.

@Ralizah Don't get me wrong, it is still one of my favourite RPGs ever, with one of the most memorable, bonkers and unexpected endings, great overall story and fantastic gameplay. But XC2 is superior to it in every concievable way.

@finalstan It's amazing we got a JRPG that good in the Switch's first year! For me, it was everything I wanted the original Xenoblade Chronicles to be. I was a bit iffy about downloading it at first, given my love/hate relationship with previous Xenoblade games, but I'm glad I jumped when I did. It's definitely my favorite Xeno- game overall at this point.

@Ralizah Can't wait for 3!

"We're making a new Starfox game..."

"...and it's a racing game."