"reported on April 2, 2012 that the next Xbox will feature a blu-ray player and pack an extra processing punch powered by two GPUs, "like two PCs taped together." The graphics card is reported to be equivalent to AMD's 7000 series. CVG (Britain's Xbox magazine) reports that the devkits sent to developers last month purportedly pack a 16-core IBM Power PC CPU"
A false hope? Nah, I don't care which platform has the most power, personally. Which ever system brings it with the games I'll buy. (I know Sony and Nintendo will bring it with the exclusives. And if it can last, it's only a matter of time before the Vita gets a steady flow of games released. When that happens, I'll get one.) Just being realistic here. And those links you posted were nothing but claims and didn't contain too much information regarding power.
The same guy also released two further videos, the second where Epic Games pretty much supported his claims in an interview and he talks about the rumored specs of the Wii U, 720, and the PS4 while getting into details. He even compares them and they are similar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zwxOGAt … ure=relmfu
While these videos aren't entirely factual and things are subject to change, they contain a lot of information regarding next generation. Hard to argue against the points he makes. I used them here because I don't feel like typing up a response the size of a novel. If you have the time, I suggest you watch them.
Also look at what seems to be an smart business move from MS: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 … 12329.html You pay very little for the console, and then you keep paying a monthly fee during some years. Some people already believe that this will be applied to the 720 as the console price might be really really high.
Did you watch them? Hard to argue with the things he said. He is a tech guy and he back up his opinions with developer feedback from guys like Epic Games and Warren Spector, the former of which is not satisfied with the current 720 and PS4. In other words? Don't expect a beast of a console. The leap with not be that big.
In regards to those articles, the 720 using a 7000 series GPU is BS. That bit of info is from January, while a follow up report from IGN a little while after said the 720 is using a Radeon HD 6670, which is similar to the rumored Wii U and PS4 GPU. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/01/24/ … urrent-gen
Lol next time can you please check the links I post? All of this was in the videos I linked to.
You decided to follow a single source of "information", the one that matches your wills. I'm not posting opinion links but leaked docs, of course they may be already outdated, time will tell, but when these docs were made public in the UK MS didnt negate them. As said I would be very happy if WiiU turns to be a real new gen console, something that atm cannot be backed up with facts.
Lol you don't go over your own links do you? It's funny because that document confirms what I've been saying this whole time lmao
The leaked Microsoft document that came out in June said that the 720 will be "4-6 times more powerful than the 360." That IGN article I linked to above even said "6 times more powerful," which goes hand in hand. The gap between the previous console generation was not that small. IGN even got specific with the type of GPU the next Xbox was using. The document even gave a pricepoint of $300, which is what a lot of people are expecting the Wii U to launch at. Don't believe me? Go read it and see. The 720 may have a slight edge since it will be released a year after, but essentially, they will be able to run the same games unlike this generation.
My links may be opinion based, but they make a lot of sense. And it doesn't matter to me what console you pick next generation. What I am trying to get across is that the 3 systems will be close, and for some reason you want to deny that even when your own sources are proving me right.
The leaked Microsoft document that came out in June said that the 720 will be "4-6 times more powerful than the 360."
No, it says x6, but that is not for the final 720, but for the first dev kits provided to devs. It says also that the final product is expected to be better performer than that dev kit.
The other pic (Yukon design) shows the building cost and the target performance: x8 360 and 225USD without V2 Kinect/controller/cables/power suppy <- All these may add another extra 200USD to the building cost, and then the retail would be around 600$. It says also that the initial architecture is scalable in number of cores, it have two GPUs (not only one), and it must be able to have double 1080p output and native 3D incorportated.
Went on vacation this week, so sorry for the late reply. But anyway...
No, it says x6
The document specifically said that it is 4-6x more powerful. Google that.
But that is not for the final 720, but for the first dev kits provided to devs. It says also that the final product is expected to be better performer than that dev kit.
Searched for this and can't find it anywhere. Since the document has been taken down, I can't go check myself, but numerous articles have no mention on this.
The other pic (Yukon design) shows the building cost and the target performance: x8 360 and 225USD without V2 Kinect/controller/cables/power suppy <- All these may add another extra 200USD to the building cost, and then the retail would be around 600$.
Why would the Kinect V2 be included with the new system. Pretty sure that's an extra peripheral and Microsoft wouldn't force everyone to buy a Kinect with the new Xbox. And after "five hundred and ninety nine U.S. dollars" do you seriously think Microsoft will launch a console that high and expect a lot of people to buy it after the PS3 had trouble at that price? The document said $299. Don't know where the $600 came from.
It says also that the initial architecture is scalable in number of cores, it have two GPUs (not only one)
Yes the new Xbox will use 6-8 cores, but they are only running at 2GHz. Whereas a normal Quod Core processor runs around 3GHz or more. And the 720 having 2 GPUs is a rumour without enough credible sources to be true. (IGN proved this wrong with that article I posted earlier.)
and it must be able to have double 1080p output and native 3D incorportated.
This doesn't say anything about the hardware. Current gen stuff (the PS3) can do these things.
If the 720 does end up x8 powerful, then the Wii U/PS4 will follow suit. These current 720 specs are very similar to the rumored specs on the other 2 systems.
Of course, none of this is official confirmatiom of anything, but it is safe to assume that all 3 systems will be similar with all these sources pointing in the same direction. The Wii U might be edged out a little bit being released a year earlier, but the gap will be very small. Possibly smaller than the gaps between the Gamecube, PS2, and the first Xbox.
Well, as it seems you dont want to read what you dont like, might be you'll want to see: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl … 68971#shId That doesnt look like a 360x8, but a 360x20. BTW, devs put WiiU slightly above 360 and on par with PS3, time will tell.
Well unlike you, I actually did click on the links you posted lol
And not to mention I refuted all of them but you ignored that. Which is fine I guess, lol.
If I am wrong I'll admit it like I did earlier in the thread. But you haven't given a decent rebuttal since you told me the Xbox was equal to the Wii. Everything you have posted is stuff that is either irrelevant or something I have proven wrong/unlikely to be true.
And if you could show me where you got "devs put Wii U slightly above 360 and on par with PS3" maybe I could actually believe it. Your claims mean nothing without a source.
And if you believe that the 720 will be a 360x20 then go ahead. I already provided enough evidence against that. You just decided not to read them.
To be frank I dont believe anything in particular, but you have not proven anything. Is like, if you read this will have two GPU, then that is a non credible rumour, but if you read it will be a 360x4, then that's a solid info.
Remember that there is no official source for anything, just some leaked docs and some feelings from devs. But there is a fact, at E3 Nintendo had its biggest chance to show how powerful the WiiU is, but they didnt show anything ahead of the other two consoles.
To be frank I dont believe anything in particular, but you have not proven anything. Is like, if you read this will have two GPU, then that is a non credible rumour, but if you read it will be a 360x4, then that's a solid info.
With that particular rumour, IGN proved the 2 GPU claim false. I've referred to it countless times...
Remember that there is no official source for anything, just some leaked docs and some feelings from devs. But there is a fact, at E3 Nintendo had its biggest chance to show how powerful the WiiU is, but they didnt show anything ahead of the other two consoles.
Of course nothing is official. But a bad conference does not mean a bad console. Sony's E3 2006 conference is proof of that.
But a bad conference does not mean a bad console. Sony's E3 2006 conference is proof of that.
I'm not saying WiiU will be a bad console, all I'm saying is that it seems MS project aims for a much more powerful device (eventually, even scalable in hardware), something that may close the big current gap between home consoles and current gaming PCs and also adding more interconnected devices (including PC) to their final global entertainment solution based on Windows 8 (probably you have already seen their new W8 tablet, as well as their Smart Glass project compatible with W8, iOS and Android). Remember that I'm talking only about power here and Sony already has a playable game showing clearly the power of Vita, Uncharted GA.
And talking about rumours, it is also said that MS is preparing an official announcement to be presented just before the launch of the WiiU. Perhaps Sony is readying something similar.
all I'm saying is that it seems MS project aims for a much more powerful device
You think? I mean I can see Sony making a powerful next gen console, but after seeing the direction that Microsoft has taken with the 360 in the past few years, I'd expect it to be a cheaper, more casual orientated console.
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