Forums

Topic: PlayStation Vita Projects Being Moved To Wii U?

Posts 1 to 20 of 66

Kage_88

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/07/25/pl … -to-wii-u/

"A rumour is circulating the web which suggests that developers are moving their PlayStation Vita projects across to Wii U due to the relatively poor sales of the console around the world. If this rumour is true then it's likely that some of the proposed PlayStation Vita titles will make their way across to the Wii U eShop as digital releases."

Now, I'm not posting this to troll or anything. I find this news (well, rumour) to be very interesting, because I imagine Vita games wouldn't be that hard to transfer to the Wii U GamePad. It's no secret the handheld isn't doing very well...and I've also heard rumours that Vita games are also being moved over to the 3DS. If this is all true, then it'd be interesting to see how Sony responds.

Any thoughts?

Nintendo Network ID: KrissB

3DS: 2621-2629-6453

Xbox Live: GonkDroid88

PSN: Kriss_B

Steam ID: kage_88

GOG ID: KrissB

Feel free to add me!

Kage_88
get2sammyb

It's obviously possible, but I'm not sure why developers would be moving their projects to the Wii U e-Shop when there are much more established platforms such as PSN and XBLA out there. If the main concern is the viability of the Vita, why move to another unproven platform?

That's a good point. Maybe the touchscreen of the GamePad?

Nintendo Network ID: KrissB

3DS: 2621-2629-6453

Xbox Live: GonkDroid88

PSN: Kriss_B

Steam ID: kage_88

GOG ID: KrissB

Feel free to add me!

turtlelink

Not releasing games on the Vita won't make it any better.

TurtleLink's backloggery
Brawl FC: 4425-1340-4519
The Sister Complex Kingpin of Steel!

Mandoble

Moving work-in-progress devs from one to the other would be weird as currently there are 2.5M Vita users and 0 WiiU users.

Mandoble

Rambo-Hamster

I think even with a transfer to the Wii U, it still would require some dumbing-down, a la PS3/Xbox 360 games being moved to the Wii. The Vita has its own processing power while the Wii U tablet doesn't (or if it does, it's nowhere near the strength of the Vita). Additionally, I think the Wii U uses a resistive touchscreen while the Vita has a capacitive one, making multi-touch on the Wii U impossible.

At the end of the day, moving games to the Wii U makes little sense to me. Developers now are acting like the Vita will never take off, and that's not possible. The price cut will come, it's just a matter of when. Additionally, consoles are a slow burn and take time to build up momentum. The 3DS has shown us that very capably. The Vita can do very well, given time. Devs just need to slow down and take a breath, rather than jump to the highly unlikely conclusions they're drawing up.

Ego Sum Rex
PSN: Rambo-Hamster
Lover of JRPGs/SRPGs, Spurs fan, and a PlayStation aficionado
Now Playing: Persona 3 Portable (Vita), Disgaea 2: Dark Hero Days (Vita), Hustle Kings (Vita)

Chrono_Cross
turtlelink

Not releasing games on the Vita won't make it any better.

Which is why I have no plans to buy one until Phantasy Star Online 2 is released for it here in the states.

If that's canned, well, I won't be buying one. Period.

Just for you.
"I'm just a musical prostitute, my dear." - Freddie Mercury

PSN: JosephDigital

Kage_88
Rambo-Hamster

*I think even with a transfer to the Wii U, it still would require some dumbing-down, a la PS3/Xbox 360 games being moved to the Wii.* The Vita has its own processing power while the Wii U tablet doesn't (or if it does, it's nowhere near the strength of the Vita). Additionally, I think the Wii U uses a resistive touchscreen while the Vita has a capacitive one, making multi-touch on the Wii U impossible.

At the end of the day, moving games to the Wii U makes little sense to me. Developers now are acting like the Vita will never take off, and that's not possible. The price cut will come, it's just a matter of when. Additionally, consoles are a slow burn and take time to build up momentum. The 3DS has shown us that very capably. The Vita can do very well, given time. Devs just need to slow down and take a breath, rather than jump to the highly unlikely conclusions they're drawing up.

Erm, Wii U is more powerful than Vita.

As for the whole resistive/capacitive thing, I would think it depends on how exactly the (rumoured) games use the Vita's touchscreen in the first place. Even then, I doubt it'd be that hard to alter the design for a single-touch screen.

And I think (as much as it may anger some) that the Vita *does* have a risk of dying. It's not impossible - take a look at the Dreamcast. Many just assumed that SEGA would bounce back and fix the console's problems...but they didn't. In addition, Sony is currently in the hole financially (unlike Nintendo), so you may never know what kinds of decisions they'll make.

Does that mean I *want* the Vita to die? Hell no! And even though I believe it *could* happen, it doesn't mean I think it *will*. Indeed, like you said, I'm hoping it'll peform a 3D-esque ressurection - and I think a good start will be the ACIII: Liberation bundle (which I'm getting), as well as Call of Duty.

[Edited by Kage_88]

Nintendo Network ID: KrissB

3DS: 2621-2629-6453

Xbox Live: GonkDroid88

PSN: Kriss_B

Steam ID: kage_88

GOG ID: KrissB

Feel free to add me!

nickcarney

While the Assassin's Creed bundle is a good start, Sony will have to announce a lot of big games and soon at that.  Otherwise, gamers will have to choose between the Wii U and the Vita bundle this Christmas.  Nintendo has revealed very little beyond launch window titles and I have a feeling it is to steal the thunder from Sony at TGS later this year.  We all know Nintendo has a lot of secrets in store for us, we can only hope Sony has some too.  Assassins Creed and Call of Duty will not be enough to save the Vita but I doubt Sony will allow it's handheld to die.  I feel as though this Christmas is the Vita's last stand, if it fails then, how will it ever succeed?

nickcarney

Mandoble
nickcarney

Otherwise, gamers will have to choose between the Wii U and the Vita bundle this Christmas.

I dont see the logic there. If I want a portable I will choose between 3DS, Vita or even a tablet. If I want a home console I will choose between 360, PS3 and WiiU. Why should I choose just between Vita and WiiU? WiiU is not a portable, it doesnt fight in the same league as Vita. In fact, following your logic, if Nintendo wants to sell any WiiU they will have to announce a lot of big games before Christmas, something that will not happen.

Mandoble

nickcarney

It's because a gamer who is looking for something new will likely only pick up one device.  Also, it is very likely that Nintendo will announce many new titles before Christmas even though very few of them will actually debut this year.

nickcarney

Mandoble

Some one looking for something new will look for something that he needs or something that he doesnt have. If he has a wii, a 360 would be new for him and with hundreds of games, and all of them would be new for him. If he wants to be limited to 3 or 4 games then he might aim for the Wii at launch, which will unlikely happen unless he already have a PS3 or 360 or gaming PC (I'm not counting with nintendo fanboys here).

Mandoble

nickcarney

Both the Vita and Wii U are investments in the future, all other video game devices are investments in the past (excluding 3DS).  No, if someone is looking for something new, they'll be looking for something that actually is new, not the soon to be outdated PS3/Xbox 360.  The Wii U will have around the same or maybe even more quality exclusives when it launches as the Vita will this Christmas.  Nintendo will surely show off what is in store for the Wii U down the road at TGS, it will be up to Sony to do the same with Vita.

nickcarney

Mandoble

As the WiiU is now matching PS3 and 360, it will be outdated at the same time as the other two. The difference is that if you buy one of the other two you will have hundreds of new games at day one while if you bet for the WiiU you will need to wait some years, and this if the console is really able to even take off.

Considering the monsters the other two companies are working on:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/29/x … os-surface
WiiU seems to be the best option only if you want to survive just with Nintendo exclusives, basically same history as with the Wii.

But Vita is a different story, it is already clearly in a generation ahead of 3DS, and there are no more competitors planned for the future (aside of current tablets) so it has time to grow up, it is not that its life or death will be determined next Christmas.

Mandoble

nickcarney

Hardware does not matter in the end, only software.  That is why 3DS is currently crushing the Vita.  The Wii U will not be outdated as it will still have software released on it for many years while the PS3 and 360 won't.  Same with Vita even though two years down the road the newest iPad will likely beat it on a technical level.  But if sales for the Vita don't pick up and this Christmas seems like the best opportunity for them to do so, then who will risk the resources to develop new games for it?

nickcarney

turtlelink
Mandoble

As the WiiU is now matching PS3 and 360, it will be outdated at the same time as the other two.

I'm pretty sure the Wii U will be more powerful than both the xbox 360 and PS3.

TurtleLink's backloggery
Brawl FC: 4425-1340-4519
The Sister Complex Kingpin of Steel!

Mandoble

Turtlelink, even if it were slightly more powerful than PS3 or XBoX this will change little as the 720 is said to be six times more powerful than 360.

Nickcarney, 3DS "crush" the Vita as you say because it is way cheaper, that's all, might be you want to remember the price cut Nintendo was forced to apply because of poor sales during the first year. And then Nintendo was in way worse position than Sony is today, as they were depending almost exclusively on 3DS sales with the Wii suddenly dead. Sony has good software and hardware sales with the PS3 so they are not so forced to cut the price of Vita yet (in fact, during 2012 Sony has sold more total units than Nintendo counting all the available consoles). If PS3 sales stalls out and Vita sales dont keep increasing, then probably we will se price cut.

Mandoble

nickcarney

The 3DS was doing a lot better when it got its price cut than the Vita is now.  Despite a weak launch, Nintendo had shown off games like Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus, Zelda, etc well before the handheld launched and many gamers likely bought it in anticipation of those titles. 

On Sony's end, the Vita had Uncharted, and good for them to get it out in time for launch.  Besides that, the only other game announced with any real star power was Bioshock and that's a long way out.  As bleak as the 3DS' launch was, its future was bright.  The same can not be said of the Vita with any certainty.  Some major announcements need to be made out of TGS or the Vita really will be screwed.  I don't think it will die though, I'm sure Sony has something big in store for their handheld.  I can't wait to see what it is

nickcarney

Mandoble

In fact, and talking about anticipation, I bought two 3DS for my kids, one of them at the very beginning, but now they are taking dust while the Vita is "overused", and not only because of the Vita games, but mostly thanks to PSP titles: two monster hunters, two starvest moon, sega collection and others did the trick, while for me Uncharted, but mostly Metal Gear HD pack cannot be matched by my current 3DS collection. We only play MK7 from time to time, 3D Mario was seen as a pretty poor cousing of Galaxy ones, Kid Icarus control scheme makes the game unplayable for us and OOT, while excellent, was aready played over and over many years ago. The only future 3DS game that we are looking for is a Castlevania one. The conclusion is that for us (3 users) Vita wins without couting on future releases.

Mandoble

nickcarney

I also enjoy being able to play PSP titles on the Vita although the selection is a bit small.  I would really like to be able to play Kingdom Hearts, hopefully it will be added sometime soon.  I picked up Ys Seven (I believe on your recommendation actually) and that game's great.  I'm also looking forward to PSOne support so I can finally try out FFVII.  The digital only offerings so far have been excellent, Mutant Blobs Attack is one of the best platformers I've played in a long time.  3DS has a pretty great selection of digital offerings as well though, you should look into them if you haven't already.

Of the four 3DS games you listed, I absolutely love them all haha.  I also really enjoyed Uncharted Golden Abyss.  I beat Drake's Fortune a few days ago and actually found GA to be better though two chapters into Among Thieves and it already beats both.  I've considered getting Metal Gear Solid HD as well as Ninja Gaiden but they both seem to be inferior to their PS3 counterparts.  That seems to be a common theme on the Vita; Uncharted, Resistance, MGS, ModNation Racers, and most likely Assassin's Creed and CoD.  I'm planning on getting FFX HD, Assassin's Creed Liberation, BioShock (if it actually gets made), Sly 4 and maybe CoD.  That's a remake, port and 3 spin offs.  Vita needs something to set itself apart, otherwise few people will see it fit to purchase when what they already have is better.

[Edited by nickcarney]

nickcarney

This topic has been archived, no further posts can be added.