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Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy

I figured the Kung Fu monks that appear in that episode alongside the werewolf might've been a bit silly (As I even found that a bit daft) to sol hence why I didn't recommend that episode @RogerRoger... It's a bit hard to guage what he'd find goofy or not though I know especially with everyone else here being big fans of the show 😄

And as for him skipping right to the 5th series... Lol that's where I said for Sol to start in the first place when he said he liked Sherlock so much as I figured with Moffat taking over he'd get more similar vibes from it

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@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy That's true, you did! Having never watched Sherlock, that didn't occur to me.

There was an element of ridiculousness about "Tooth and Claw", you're right, but I remember the werewolf being impressive and the atmosphere pretty decent, so thought it might demonstrate another facet of the show (namely the horror vibe it often aims for) whilst still being early enough in Tennant's run for things to potentially click. You're right, though, it's a really interesting (and tricky) thought exercise, recommending Doctor Who to another culture. There's so much inherent Britishness that we just accept willingly, even if we're rolling our eyes at it. The whole show's one big in-joke at times!

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Th3solution

@Thrillho I think I know about regeneration, although I’m just assuming some things. I have pieced together that the alien being that is the Doctor inhabits various human forms. I just don’t know if it’s as a result of the previous form dying, or if it’s some kind of purposeful evolution or voluntary invasion of someone’s body, or if there’s some other time limit of each physical form.

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Lol, yeah I thought the voice was pretty goofy alright. It reminded me of the little boy’s voice in The Shining. “Redrum... Redrum” 😅
And the Americans in the episode were certainly unintentionally humorous in their own way. But it fit with the overall camp and datedness of the series. (“I own the internet...” 😂)

Maybe I need to do “The Christmas Invasion” because I did see that one listed. I feel like I need to see Tennant get introduced as the Doctor even if the episode isn’t up to the better standards that follow. I’ll let you know how I get along. 😄

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Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy

Not a fan of Sherlock myself @RogerRoger but with Moffat (and Mark Gatiss) running (and I think writing the entire thing too?) there I figured with Moffat at the helm of Series five of Doctor Who (And for the reasons you said of the bigger budget, the more international focus and the likes) it seemed like the better entry point for Sol to ween him into it.

Oh I really quite like "Tooth & Claw" and I think the werewolf was particularly well done compared to some of the other CGI effects/Monsters there's been over the years and it nails the more horror-y vibe the episode has too. Plus that DOES bring in the start of the Torchwood arc and - ... Oh lord Doctor Who is way more interconnected then I gave it credit for ... The Girl In the Fireplace can thankfully be taken as a one off episode!

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger Sorry, my friend - I just now saw your post after writing that above. Yeah, the headspace I’m in atm is weird anyways, so I don’t mind a little trial and error on a couple Who episodes. Namely because my gaming mojo has taken a hit, and so I’ve been dabbling more into TV. I think the fact that it’s more passive and requires less energy as a form of escapism is why I’m gravitating toward TV and movies instead of gaming. Anyways, thanks a ton for all the recommendations. I’ll certainly post thoughts.

And yes — The Umbrella Academy is an acquired taste due the initial frustration of the dysfunctional family dynamic of the characters. But one thing it does is really provide strong characters of wide representation with plenty of diversity. Interestingly I noticed the credits changed from “Ellen” to “Elliot” in the second season (probably have retroactively changed the first season by now) It’s easy to spot because he’s the first name in the end credits usually.

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Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy

The fact you're willing to keep engaging with the series despite not fully getting on with it so far is promising @Th3solution even if you end up deciding it's not for you.

At least you can agree it's better then Marmite!

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@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy 😂 Ahhhh, marmite... I’ve suppressed that traumatic experience.

I still have my jar of it. I think the shelf life is like 3 years or something (probably because it has some ungodly preservatives that add to the putrid taste) so I could always open it back up and eat it while watching Doctor Who to get the full effect. I wonder if it will enhance the experience or exponentially nauseate me. 🤔

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Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy

Lol I was right about it being foul then @Th3solution and it still holds true... Don't even think of trying it again it you madman

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ralphdibny

@RogerRoger nice one! I'm still waiting, perhaps in vein for a ln agents of shield season 6+7 blu ray announcement. I still haven't watched those two seasons!

Fair enough about UC, like I say, I do get tempted to try it out because of the positive word of mouth. It looks a bit like a less funny version of Doom Patrol (which is easily the best DC show that's ever been made). I'm not saying Elliot Page is a bad actor or anything, I think it's just that you gel with certain actors over the years and I never really gelled with Robert Sheehan or Elliot Page. But you know, there could be that one show that sets me on the path to being a mega fan. I used to hate Lee Mack but now I'm halfway through season 4 of Not going out!

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Thrillho

@Th3solution The regeneration thing is a very clever way of getting around the issue of recasting!

When a Timelord dies, they regenerate with their memories but into a completely different body (and can even swap gender as we recently learnt!). They can only do this a limited number of times but thanks to some typical “wibbly wobbly timey wimey” writing, the Doctor has a few more in the bag!

It’s clever as it allows recasting but means that doctors can have quite different personalities; Capaldi is rather different to Tennant for instance!

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I recently watched the first 5 or 6 episodes of Titans: Season 1, might end up watching the rest today along with starting Cobra Kai: Season 1, depends on how much time I spend on the computer haha.

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@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Very interconnected, yes! Thankfully it's a fast-talking show, so there's always a bit of exposition to cover the necessary details, but still.

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@Th3solution Oh, I agree; there are some days you couldn't pay me to pick up a DualShock. Passive entertainment is much more useful for keeping you distracted whilst your head plays Tetris with blocks of thoughts and feelings. It's good that you're being experimental, but I'm sorry it's taken some stress to get you here. Hopefully you'll have found it a worthwhile endeavour!

And yes, I noticed the retroactive credits change for Elliot Page in the first couple episodes of The Umbrella Academy. Made it a little jarring when his character kept being referred to as "she" but hey, actors can play whoever and whatever they want; it's why it's called acting.

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@ralphdibny I'll be finishing the fifth season of S.H.I.E.L.D. next week, depending on progress, so I'll let you know how the sixth and seventh pan out (spoiler-free, of course). It's quite remarkable how the show has evolved so much, yet remained so familiar.

And hey, we like what we like, and that stretches to actors and performances, so it's all good. I keep meaning to track down Doom Patrol. I hear excellent things!

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nessisonett

I’ve been binging The Crown from the perspective of someone who’s not a Royalist in any sense of the word. I mean, coming from primarily Irish and German blood means that I have my gripes with the Royal Family. It’s pretty good though if you watch it like a soap. Mountbatten is literally Littlefinger. The Queen’s a bit boring but she’s boring in real life too like I’m not expecting her to start sniffing lines off a prostitute but I dunno, show some personality. Prince Phillip is a right tw*t but again, he is in real life too. Actually, there aren’t any likeable characters at all. It’s proper good though.

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RogerRoger

@nessisonett My family have strong feelings about that show. My background is very military, very royalist, and all the headlines regarding its apparent inaccuracies have ensured that I've heard the word "treason" a couple times too many in recent months.

I love the Queen. She's a hard-working and genuinely empathetic inspiration. As long as she's still with us, I still support the monarchy... but, as soon as she's gone, it needs to end.

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@RogerRoger It’s basically like Succession except they pretend they have a divine right to rule instead of just being rich.

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@nessisonett Yeah, trust me, it's proper frightening what goes on behind palace doors. Whatever soapy madness the writers of The Crown have extrapolated from various rumours and innuendo, it's probably still falling short of the bizarre reality.

I wouldn't trust the modern royals to run a bath.

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mookysam

@nessisonett I can't say I care about the Royals one way or the other, but pretty much think we should be a republic. It's good that the programme isn't a fluff piece designed to make us love them; it presents the characters as flawed and human, and therefore relatable in some ways. It's an interesting show, especially the first few series where it's set in a slightly more glamorous era, and we see the Queen struggling to settle into her role. The acting is brilliant, especially from Claire Foy and Vanessa Kirby.

The producers arguably dropped the ball in series 3 as most of the characters are quite horribly miscast, and they chose to focus on stories that really aren't all that interesting. Bizarre given the immense social changes that occurred in the 1960s. They actually filmed a scene in the town my Mum lives while I was visiting, and lord knows how much that lone scene cost. They made all the pedestrians wait at the end of the road so that Helena Bonham Carter (looking like she was chewing a wasp) could be filmed. I can't blame her for being grumpy, it was a bitterly cold January day and the scene was set in the summer!

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger I’ve dabbled in Doom Patrol also. Honestly I like Umbrella Academy better, but DP is also pretty good. It has only kept my attention for the first half of season one, so I need to pick it up again. In full disclosure, I’m not much of a Brendon Fraser fan. He’s always irritated me. Although I will say that he’s better in this than in the other roles I’ve watched him in (...couldn’t stand the Mummy movies). Also Diane Guerrero seems overwhelmed in her role. To me, she isn’t convincing at all in what is arguably one of the more difficult TV roles to try and tackle. When/if you watch the show you’ll see what I mean. At times she’s ok, but at times shrinks in the role. Timothy Dalton is great though. I should really get back into the show.

Edit: As an aside, I’ve got The Crown on a short list to try fairly soon also. I wasn’t sure what the British response would be to it though. I’m not sure if it’s deemed as pulp nonsense over there.

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colonelkilgore

So, late to the party as always but... just finished season 1 of Cobra Kai and I absolutely bloody loved it (as did the missus who until recently really didn’t want to give it a chance). So many homages, so much nostalgia but also some really decent story-telling, acting and the season 1 finale gave me genuine chills.

Gutted that I only have two more seasons to watch, as we’re gonna smash it by Saturday I reckon.

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