Topic: The TV Show Thread

Okay so I'm caught up on Wandavision now (up to Ep.4) and it's become more interesting to me now. I'm not familiar with SWORD or know any significance of the Billy and Tommy names so unlike some of you have no clues at what this is hinting towards. But that's good as while I haven't found it the most entertaining of shows it certainly is intriguing and I'm invested enough in the MCU to want to see where it's going.

They are spreading it out though, half hour episodes and about 7 minutes of that is credits.

On a seperate note I've finally got back around to watching Stranger Things after starting it ages ago then kind of forgetting about it. Just finished the first season and think it was excellent. It is much darker than I thought it was going to be but it really pulled me in. I'm on a 2 week hol now so will probably smash through the second season over the next few days. Hopefully it maintains the level of the first.

@BearsEatBeets My opinion is the level of quality only slightly drops in the second season, and I'll admit that's definitely up for debate, but takes a nosedive for the third.

I'm interested to see how others feel about it though.

@BearsEatBeets @zupertramp First season was fantastic, second season had a bit of dip in the middle chunk of episodes but improved towards the end. The showrunners/writers admitted this was a mistake. The third season was almost as good as the first but not quite upto those high standards. I know people that preferred it however, so it is all down to personal preference. Kinda like how some prefer Aliens over Alien, both brilliant but very much different types of movie.

Oof gave a long response with spoiler tags but then nothing was hidden when I hit post. so that sucks. I'll come back to this when i feel like retyping all that again lol.

Was gonna post a picture here but thought better of it because I guess it's kinda mildly spoiler-ish. So it's in the art thread.

I really liked the third series of Stranger Things.

The first was excellent as something new and brilliantly acted. The second was still really good but dragged a little. The third kept it interesting having multiple parallel stories so it didn’t feel like it was being dragged out.

Holy bloody smokes, the newest episode of WandaVision. I just want to talk about it but I really don't want to spoil it. I am glad I got to watch it when it came out though, this is definitely the sort of spoiler that's will be all over the net before the end of tomorrow.

@ralphdibny Yeah, I got spoiled because a certain character’s name was trending hours before I watched it. It’s such a good reveal as well!!!

@nessisonett my jaw just dropped, I couldn't believe it! I've been looking for a new comics news site for a while now but I think I'm sort of glad I hadn't found one just yet because that sort of moment in a show is just one you won't get back.

I guess I'm lucky I only go on PS, PX and NL!

Yeah, WandaVision is getting pretty interesting. And now after episode 5, I feel silly for thinking Elizabeth Olsen was just giving up on trying to speak in a Slavic accent, as now it’s evident the character Wanda speaks like an American while playing her part in her “show” life and went back into her Sokovian accent when she breaks character and left the bubble. So it was a conscious decision to sound differently I guess.
But anyways, it’s a good show. I wonder how they’ll keep it going.

@Th3solution I wish she just dumped the accent. I thought Supergirl’s Red Daughter Russian accent was bad but Elizabeth Olsen takes the cake!

@Th3solution honestly I always thought they dropped the accent in the films because it sounded a bit rubbish. I've read recently that their offscreen but in universe explanation for dropping the accent was that Black Widow was teaching her accents to be a better spy or something, maybe because she was off the grid after Civil War. I didn't think it was a huge deal that they dropped the accent because she doesn't have much dialogue in Age of Ultron anyway. I think it sounds a lot better when she uses it in this show though.

Aparently when they were devising the accent, they were trying to create one that was a good fit for Olsen's natural American accent and Taylor-Johnsons natural English accent which is why it kind of sounds fake and unnatural. I think they said the settled on an accent that was somewhere between Bulgarian and Slovakian

@nessisonett @ralphdibny Yeah, I guess the fact that the country of Sokovia is fictional means that the accent doesn’t have to sound pure, but it just comes across inconsistent to me. She kind of wavers in and out of it even in the movies. Either way, WandaVision has really endeared me to the Wanda character (and the actress Olsen) much more than the movies did.

So having caught up on WandaVision, I have to give it credit; I really wasn't expecting that. Not sure what this means for the future though. Like, more broadly. Because it'll be kinda disappointing if it, well, doesn't mean much. But that seems doubtful.

And as accents go in the MCU i kinda find the Wakanda one the most off-putting, if only because it's an entire cast of characters doing their own version of this fictional, albeit slightly African accent. Black Panther is great, don't get me wrong, but the accent situation is a little odd. Not sure of any viable alternatives to be fair.

WandaVision is simply amazing

I'll admit my interest in Wandavision has grown with each episode. I'm definitely curious where they are going with it, especially with that final shock/twist/reveal. I wonder if this will finish just when the Falcon and Winter Soldier (might have to start referring to this as FWS or something) starts.

Also I found the theme tune to episode 5 kinda catchy.

Oh boy... Gina Carano. What a way to ruin a good thing. I can respect a person having their own opinions — I would never deny them that right. But it appears she has taken things too far and got on the bad side of not only her employer but also the fan base at large. Such a rapid fall from grace.

Here’s hoping Mandalorian Season 3 is still as entertaining without her.

@Th3solution It’s crazy that it’s taken this long. She’s been airing rubbish that goes way beyond personal views for years now. For her to compare taking flak for supporting Trump to the Holocaust though, that’s career-ending. Good riddance.

@nessisonett @Th3solution yeah she was going out of her way to be, I don't even know what... conservative-edgy or something. Idk but it got hard to watch the episodes she was on.

As mentioned, people are allowed their views. I'm generally okay with that. Lord knows Bill Burr says all kinds of stuff I would think would exclude him from a Disney gig but he's in the show all the same. Which is good because maybe we've reached a point where people can be human and flawed and make jokes and only get fired after some truly egregious comments. Or a pattern of behavior.

One other thing. Was she legit that much of a fan favorite in the beginning? I thought she was meh from the gate but everywhere I read about her the outlet acts like she was the greatest thing since sliced bread at first.

That's a shame, I really liked her character in Mando and she had a good chemistry with Pedro Pascal. I don't tend to pay much attention to what celebrities say or do outside of acting/playing their sport etc. Unless they have done something illegal or so bad it can't be repeated, I'm usually oblivious to it all! 😅

Yeah, I don’t typically follow celebrity entertainers personal lives and public discourse much either. I had heard she was an anti-masker and of course that made me raise an eyebrow, but didn’t know the extent of her social media rants. Of course the Holocaust metaphor was the final straw, and it almost seems like she was seeing how far she could push things. The irony is that her character and her whole image seemed to me rather feminist and empowering for women; She plays a strong woman with a very different appeal than Hollywood’s usual output, and I think that’s why she attracted some early rabid fandom. I’m sure she’ll find a small corner of entertainment (probably will be something like going back to her WWE roots or something) but I don’t think a major outlet will touch her for a while, given the vocal extreme right-wing and insensitive nature of her public opinions. Again, she’s entitled to have a belief system, I’m all in favor of separating the artist from the art like someone else on here said on another thread, but she’s just learned that there’s a consequence to airing controversy repeatedly.