I'm probably one of the few people who don't really rate Logan. It's sort of a good film but it's not something I'd want to watch many times. Like it's good but it's not enjoyable. However, I actually love FC, DoFP, Apocalypse and Dark Pheonix. They are just fun movies, I like the cast of all of them (except Ben Hardy's Angel - he over acts a bit and I still can't get Peter Beale out of my head) and generally they don't take too much mental fortitude to sit through. They're fun and just hit all the right beats for enjoyable films to watch. That's just my opinion of course
@nessisonett Honestly even though it feels so different tonally from what was established before there are still things in that film you can use to basically connect the dots with what happened and where Logan and Xavier ended up, especially with little nods to stuff like Xavier's psychic outbreaks resulting in the death of the other X-Men, X-24 being a thing and that being connected seemingly to Essex Corp. which is obviously synonymous with Mister Sinister, and there even being actual X-Men comics that chronicle dramatized versions of their real life missions. I especially liked the whole plot point about Eden and its location because it implied that even though Eden isn't an actual place in their world, the coordinates still line up there because it existed for the comic books
@ralphdibny Angel got done so dirty in the Fox films. He was basically just there for fanservice in The Last Stand and I thought he would have an actual arc in Apocalypse given they hyped up him becoming Archangel, but he's just kind of there for being the muscle of the 4 Horsemen. Same thing happened to Psylocke
Considering he was literally part of the OG X-Men team in the comics I expected him to have way more of a stake in things when it came to the films
@TheFrenchiestFry Ben foster who played the original Angel over acts in a lot of his stuff too. It's weird they went for two people who over act in their work but barely used them at all. In fairness to Ben Foster though, he has really grown as an actor and I've seen a few bits of his more recent work and he is much better at inhabiting his characters. It might just be to do with costume, make up and direction though, the level of the acting just far exceeds what they've been given to work with so it sticks out like a sore thumb.
@TheFrenchiestFry Angel was funny in Apocalypse because he’s literally just some guy from Eastenders. They might as well have Phil Mitchell as Professor X. Actually I’d watch that.
@ralphdibny Can't wait to see them adapt THAT storyline in the MCU
Honestly She-Hulk is probably the next Disney+ show I'm legit excited for since they finally remembered The Incredible Hulk was a movie they made after like 13 years
@TheFrenchiestFry I think my level of excitement has ramped up now that I've seen WandaVision.
When they first announced all the shows I was skeptical at the idea of the sidekicks getting television shows (except WandaVision of course). Also it all came at the cost of the Netflix shows, Cloak&Dagger and The Runaways (which I love all of). So it was a bit of a mixed bag for me.
But now I am genuinely excited for Falcon and Winter Soldier because they are bringing Zemo back. It's good to see Owen Wilson getting out there again with Loki. I love Hawkeye too so hopefully that show will be good. I also really like the sound of the more recently announced shows that aren't really spin offs like She Hulk and Ms Marvel. It's going to be interesting how they do stuff like Armour Wars and Secret Invasion as TV shows instead of movies. I wonder how much more mileage they will get out of Sam Jackson as Nick Fury too now that he's in his 70s
@ralphdibny I’m honestly gutted at how badly Cloak and Dagger and Runaways were treated. Both shows totally came into their own in their last seasons and the crossover both made sense and realistically could have opened up some great possibilities. I wish Runaways especially would come back.
@nessisonett same here but I haven't actually seen their final seasons yet! (No spoilers please) Runaways was one of my favourite shows so that really sucks for me too. Both seasons that I watched were brilliant with a great cast and an awesome theme tune! I absolutely love that theme tune
Hopefully they bring the cast back if they ever get reintroduced because along with the Netflix shows, I can't really imagine any other people playing those characters. (I haven't seen JJ season 3 yet either so no spoilers for that too please! Or AoS S6+7 for that matter)
Aparently a late game MCU TV production slipped through the cancellation called Helstrom. I haven't seen it but somebody over on NL mentioned it to me a while back. I really need to catch up and watch these shows!
It's just really freaking boring. In fact it reminded me of how scaled back I felt Inhumans was given the source material. The budget feel of it just took away a lot of excitement
It doesn't even have the Marvel moniker on it like a lot of the other ABC, Netflix, Hulu and Freeform shows so you could tell they were basically rushing it out just so they could squeeze one last breath out of Marvel Television before the Disney+ stuff took over
@nessisonett oh cool, had no idea Disney plus was getting a new section. Looks like there will be a price hike for new subscribers but you can carry on paying 5.99 a month until later this year if you are already paying it
I’ve somehow managed to binge 24 episodes of The O.C. in 3 days. It’s incredible how well it’s aged considering it’s almost 20 years old now. I’d probably put it in between the top tier of teen shows like Friday Night Lights and Freaks and Geeks and the second place tier that includes Gilmore Girls and Buffy. Pretty funny seeing all the future stars turning up in it too, there’s a new fresh-faced looking guest star almost every episode. Probably helps that it has a total throwback soundtrack as well with the likes of Death Cab for Cutie and Belle and Sebastian.
@RogerRoger See, I watched Gotham first therefore it actually wasn’t a big leap from grizzled detective to broody bad-boy. I did laugh at the fact he’s still credited as ‘Benjamin McKenzie’ and looks about pretty fresh faced 😂
@RogerRoger I could never get into Gotham for some reason, maybe it was too contradictory. Like the level of cheese in it didn't match it's dark atmosphere. I know it sounds like a bit of excuse considering I've watched like 20+ seasons of the ultimate cheese Arrowverse. I think Jada Pinket Smith hamming it up in the first few episodes really did it for me and I had to pull the plug. I have considered watching it since though, they've had some of my favourite TV actors show up such as Michael Cerveres (Fringe) as professor pyg and Alexander siddig as Ra's Al ghul
Anyway, I've watched the first few eps of clone wars now. Already it seems a lot better than the movie which is really weird. I wonder if it's because the pacing of the movie just doesn't work as well as watching 3 individual 25 minute episodes. I've quite enjoyed that kind of old fashioned movie serial recap at the beginning of episodes. It's kind of fitting considering that Star Wars (a new hope) was supposed to be a homage to those old science fiction movie serials which is why it was retroactively fitted with the Episode 4 subtitle after the Empire Strikes back came out. I think the idea was that when you would see a serial episode that played before a movie in the old days, you could come at it in the middle of the story because you might not have seen previous installments that played before another movie you didn't go and see. Don't quote me on that though, movie history seems to change as more people have gone on record about it since the advent of the internet!
@RogerRoger Haha yeah I did watch some of a Julian Bashir as Ra's Al ghul episode once. Admittedly, the scene I watched was totally out of context so I would give it the benefit of the doubt but the pleasure of seeing Alexander Siddig on screen was completely outweighed by a character called Barbara hamming it up around him. I think it's a show I'd save for an incredibly rainy day, maybe monsoon season levels of rain 😅
I do wonder if later multi episode arcs of Clone Wars will have a more compelling story too. As cute as Jabba's baby is, I wouldn't say he was worth being a 3 episode macguffin. I am kind of warming to the artstyle now, I think every shock to the system needs some time to adjust. It actually reminds me of Telltale character designs, to the point where I am quite shocked Telltale didn't get their hands on the license to make a game out of Clone Wars.
It's so odd seeing these kind of proto-imperial starships being commanded by Jedi. I think it hits home just how bad the change in management was after Order 66. I suppose they still had Vader in charge after that though. It's also weird seeing Obi Wan and Anakin being Generals. Its so far off their depiction in the movies (at least the first 2) but it is quite an interesting look into that era of their lives.
I feel like I may have mixed up the movie serial recaps with the newsreel voice overs now! I believe both would have been shown before films in that era of cinema, along with a cartoon! Even without the specifics, it is certainly a call back to that era of cinema that Star Wars was originally supposed to be.
I forgot to mention about The Phantom Menace and Attack of the clones - I'm not sure how recently you have watched them but there was one guy in the Senate that shouts "Order!" when it gets a bit rowdy. It really reminded me of John Bercow from our parliament. Granted the character only shouts it once but it still made me crack up as soon as I heard it 😂
@RogerRoger@ralphdibny I can attest that I’m one of those who likes the animated Clone Wars Anakin better than the movie one. He’s less whiney and more altruistic. Without the whole being torn apart by the inner philosophical dilemmas and pull toward the dark side, he’s actually a more relatable and clearer scripted person, in my opinion. And I like the prequels better than the average Joe (although not as much as Rog) and yet I can’t deny the dialogue and portrayal of Anakin comes off a little awkward at times.
Now this is said with having only watched the first season of the TV show. I still need to get back into it. Hearing that it gets even darker and grittier surprises me because even in the animated movie and first season I was surprised at how intense and violent it can be at times, were I looking through the eyes of a 10 year old (or the mother of one). It’s plenty tame for me as an adult and I like the dramatic violence, personally, and welcome the tragic and intense aspects.
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