@StitchJones If I can guess the lyric is it 'Through struggle, I learn to embrace the life I've been given' from their track Through The Struggle? That line always stood out to me, I've seen the artwork with the moon and the skull used as ink before too. It's their Shadows are Security album which is probably my favorite of theirs. I got into them around the same time as Trivium and All that Remains. I can't say I know much Rush but I do know Closer to The Heart and I like that one. Do you recommend any Rush tracks?
Probably my favorite by All that Remains, that drumming is inhuman it's up there with Fear Factory. That whole album 'Fall of Ideals' is almost flawless.
You might like Unearth, they are a lot like Hatebreed but I think they sound more technical. They would have toured with As I Lay Dying and All That Remains.
I've always liked Lamb of God and what happened with Randy in Prague changed things for Metal in Europe. He almost got manslaughter after that fan died at their show, he was of course acquitted but had he been convicted it would have been a decade of his life gone. Venues don't take those risks now.
I've maybe shared this one before because it's my favorite MachineHead track.
For Dimebag.
I'm not really sure what happened with Hellyeah the last I saw they were in-hiatus after Vinnie passed, they'd planned some UK shows and then the tour was cancelled, I did want to see them but I really doubt Chad will play without him. I talked to the guy who wrote a book about Dimebag called 'A Vulgar Display of Power: Courage and Carnage at the Alrosa Villa' and the side he gave me was really emotional. It touched him, it was a really awkward talk but he was really friendly and afterwards I felt awful for even asking about it.
He interviewed a lot of people about that night, I still don't even know if he was there himself because that whole talk is such a blur. It really did feel like I asked about something, tried to put the breaks on, saw the train coming and crashed right into it. I should have just read the book and not asked. The last I heard he was running tour shots for Megadeth then he sort of went of the grid and I never heard from him again. I keep meaning to give the book a proper read, it wasn't just Dimebag right? a couple of other people were shot that night. That's the scary thing about mental health anyone can catch that bullet, he thought the band had stolen his lyrics. I can only imagine that Vinne kept playing in tribute to his brother. I'm just glad it didn't happen today, idiots would be catching it in high-definition and sharing it all over social-media, they wouldn't even know the music he'd just be another headline for people.
I almost forgot about Down
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@GirlVersusGame Oh boy, be careful asking me about Rush, cause I can totally wax poetic about them for hours, days, weeks, months, years. You'll want to find me and have me shot with how much I can talk your ear off about Rush. But joking aside, they are and always will be my fave band of all time.
I would love to get you into Rush and have you go down a rabbit hole with them. But where do I start? "But where do I start?" that phrase says it all. And is usually a sign of a great band. Cause we are talking 19 LP's since 1974, 11 live albums, 12 compilation albums and 2 EP's. They have been on hiatus for awhile and were possibly retired for good, because their drummer Neil Peart died of cancer 6 yrs ago.
However, they recently announced a reunion tour for this summer and hired a virtuoso drummer who's been around for a while. A woman by the name of Anika Nilles, will be playing drums with Rush. Whether they write new music or not remains to be seen. She is from Germany and Anika is such a great freaking drummer. I love to see women in prog rock and metal music too.
But back to their music. Rush is very fascinating, because they have 4 phases in their career. Most rush fans only say there are 2 and they aren't wrong. They clump phase 2 and 3 together and just put phase 4 as a continuation of phase 1.But when you break it down, its actually 4 phases.
In the early days they were straight up classic rock sounding like Led zep, but progressive rock. Closer to the heart is one of their earlier songs and reflects their 1st phase. It was actually on their 5th LP "a farewell to kings". The 1st phase of Rush ran from self-titled LP in 1974 to "permanent waves" album in 1980, their first 7 LP's.
Then comes the brief 2nd phase for 2 albums, "moving pictures" and "Signals". They still have the prog rock bass and guitars, still sounded pretty classic rock and grungey, but they start adding lots of keyboards, primarily synth sounds. Both amazing albums.
Then comes phase 3 from 1984 to '87 for three LP's. They went even heavier on synths and keyboards. Stayed prog rock, but the guitars were very bright and not grungey like classic rock anymore. They sounded very 1980's and were experimental for these LP's.
Then finally, phase 4 from 1989 to 2012 for a total of 7 more LP's. They totally went back to their roots and became a grungey, classic rock sounding progressive rock band again. Lmao
Most die hard Rush fans love all the phases of Rush. Some fans do not like phase 2 and 3. They call it Rush's "synth era". I love all of it. You just have to have an open ear. I can listen to Heaven shall burn, then I'll listen to synthwave techno music you'd hear in a club. I love to do that. Many people stick to what they like and can't do that. So to each their own I guess. But the synth era of Rush had so many amazing albums and songs.
At the end of day, I do love earliest Rush the best, phase 1. Its what got me into them and I have the most nostalgia for the early grungier sounding albums.
If I were to recommend someone get into Rush I would probably say start with 3 albums. One from phase 1, 2 and 3. I would say listen to LP #2 which is "fly by night" LP #8 "moving pictures" and LP #12 "hold your fire" and if you are digging those, then go further down the rabbit hole cause you won't be disappointed. And in some ways it gets even better from there lol.
I will post 3 songs, 1 from each for you. Hope I didn't talk your ear off. I don't blame you if you didn't read my book report here. But I warned you at the start. 4 things I can talk someone's ear off about. Video games, Hockey, Music and Rush.
@StitchJones This is going to sound strange but each of the three videos sounds like a different band. The first one almost reminds me Sebastian Bach and even Iron Maiden. I wasn't expecting that break after the first four minutes either, it feels like the first time I heard Avantasia's Clockwork. Fantasy is probably the word I'm looking for, it paints that visual landscape and builds those foundations through bass and then carefully guides the listener through something magical. It reminds me of so many of those melodic and symphonic Metal and Rock bands that really captured my interest and still today have it.
Limelight reminds me more of Blue Oyster Cult and a little of The Police too, definitely more Blue Oyster Cult. I feel like I have heard some of it before but not the whole song or it's because I'm hearing those other bands in it. I can definitely hear The Police there, I might have a little too much of Don't Stand so Close to me burned into my memory, I can't not hear it in that song but it's the drums that sort of sever that connection and make it something else.
The third one sounds a lot like Blue Oyster Cult at the start, it's really weird I'm hearing so many bands layered and it might be my memory at the moment. It feels like hearing and experiencing something you've always known but are also hearing for the first time. I can see why you really like the band, I've heard an evolution in feeling, sound-scapes, and so much else and that's just three songs. I can't say that about a lot of bands, you are right the third one is definitely my favorite. In the first track is the Snow Dog the guitar? I've listened to the structure a couple of times now and the bass really stands out. It's also my favorite album-art of the three, the same Avantasia's Clockwork.
It's impressive how much you know and can write about that band. It's clear they've been in your life longer than any other group. I don't know why I never tried to listen to them before, other than Closer to The Heart. It might be their huge discography. It took me a week to get through Iron Maiden the first time, it's funny saying that and right now hearing Maiden in Rush, I can't unhear it. They say not to judge a book by it's cover, I really like that owl and that track so Fly By Night will be my first full Rush album.
This is Avantasia and maybe my favorite of theirs. The whole album is a concept that tells the story of a Scientist from the Victorian era. He lives in a small town populated with Scientific Occultists and has to balance his beliefs, faith, and his own work while struggling to understand Spiritual awakening. It deals with destiny, sanity and time as a whole. It's done through a kind of astral journey, for knowledge and understanding those same secrets. I think it was written to make the listener delve into their own journey, to consider where they stand in it all, to almost question the nature of the universe.
I'm sure you know Helloween too, I hear some Rush there too.
And in Dream Theater, it's starting to sound like a lot of bands borrowed from Rush.
These violent delights have violent ends & in their triumph die, like fire & powder Which, as they kiss, consume.
@GirlVersusGame Lol yes. By-tor and the snow dog are two dogs. And they were actually 2 real dogs who belonged to Rush's manager at the time. But in the song By-tor is Geddy Lee (the singer, bass, keyboards) and the Snow dog is Alex Lifeson the guitar player.
All 3 members of Rush were always considered Virtuoso level players by their peers. Esp the drummer Neil Peart. Dream Theatre's drummer Mike Portnoy, always said his fave drummer and main influence is Neil from Rush. Danny Carey from tool as well....he always looked up to Neil. Many bass players look up to Rush's singer/bass player/keyboardist Geddy Lee.
Yes Rush is a 3 piece. Neil Peart on drums, Alex Lifeson on guitar and Geddy Lee sings, play bass and keyboards all at once. When you see them live its a sight to behold. Seeing these 3 guys make a wall of sound should not be possible. Seeing how Geddy Lee can sing, play bass and break off into keyboards all at once is hard to fathom, but these guys are Professors of music, so they are called by their peers.
I know so much about them because no only they are my fave band, but the nostalgia I have built in my soul for this band is like no other. Metallica and Iron Maiden are up there for me with nostalgia as well. Metallica is prob my 2nd fave band ever.
I have two sisters who are much, much older then me. I was exposed to rock music and metal by both when I was only 6 years old. By 8 or so, I would go in their rooms when they weren't home and play all their vinyl albums and build my love for music very young.
I heard Rush for the first time freshman yr in high school. We had a HS radio station that was inside electronics class. The music would play over a small speaker in the classroom, so the teacher could monitor and make sure that the student DJ's were not playing songs with profanities or other bad things. Almost every day whoever DJ'd would play the song "subdivisions" by Rush. I was blown away sitting there in class and a Rush fan was born. I took extra jobs cutting grass for neighbors the following summer, just to build up enough $$$ to buy all the albums they had available at the time.
All I did all summer long was dive into this deep rabbit hole of Rush. I was totally lost in it and mesmerized. That summer alone built up so much nostalgia it was crazy. They became my fave band way back then. I miss those times of going out and buying vinyl, then cassettes, then CD's. Its all streaming now and it sucks in comparison. But it is what it is, there's no going back.
I love that Avantasia artwork. And I was never really into Helloween much, but of course know of them and respect them regardless.
@GirlVersusGame Here's another song I'm sure you have heard. At least the intro for sure. This is prob their most iconic song if you take into account it was used in many movies, shows and sporting events.
This is from the "2112" album. Which is a concept album that came out in 1976. This is their 3rd album and my fave by far out of all their LP's. Its also agreed upon by many that this was always their greatest masterpiece.
Here's another track from Fly by night. This ends the album. So much feeling in this song. Kinda like "closer to the heart".
@Tjuz It's really funny to read about K3 on this website. That come out of nowhere. Anyway, it's nice to hear you had a great time with your sister. It's rare spending quality time with people like that.
Anyway, last week I saw ANOHNI live and I'm seeing Big Thief next week. Confusing times, but this is a world with so many beautiful things.
@GirlVersusGame This is bytor and the snow dog from the album "working man, a tribute to Rush" It was a Rush tribute album, where an All star cast of musicians came together to cover a bunch of Rush's songs. On bytor here, its James Labrie on vocals and Mike Portnoy on drums (dream theater) Jake E Lee on guitar (best known as one of Ozzy's guitar players solo career) Billy Sheehan on bass (best known played in David Lee Roth's band when he left van halen and played in Steve Vai's solo band) and Brendt Allman on rhythm guitar (guitar player in the prog metal band "shadow gallery")
This whole album is actually really good and a great tribute to Rush. But Mike Portnoys drum solo on Bytor here is amazing.
@FuriousMachine Haha, like I said, they did make a bit of a deviation into more child-friendly territory! I think the Spice Girls would've already been too risque for what their target audience ended up being. That said... I don't know if it's the nostalgia entirely, but I've been enjoying revisiting their catalogue more than I thought I would as an adult. Not sure my parents were quite as delighted with them when I replayed their CDs over and over as a kid however...
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@Herculean@Ravix did encourage me to post more in the music thread... so now he'll have to live with the knowledge of a Belgian girl group. It's the consequences of his own actions! But yeah, a random post for an international forum such as this, but I felt like sharing with how much fun I had. And I knew there was another Dutch/Belgian person on here... Maybe this was simply my evil plan to coax you out. Were you Kidfried on the forum before by any chance? I know they were Dutch, but I'm not sure if you're an entirely different person or the same person with a new account, haha. That's what I get for falling off the face of the earth on this forum time and time again.
@Tjuz This is a very local to the Netherlands and personal thing, but last week I went to see a reunion concert of K3. It's this Belgian girl group that was supposed to be their answer to the Spice Girls.
This should surprise me but that was regular Russian music for me growing-up. I had a different Britney Spears that I'm pretty sure either borrowed or copied some of the same sound, I'll provide an example and you can tell me with your perfectly tuned power to process Pop.
This to you does it sound like the song Toxic? People told me it did but I knew this song first so it's hard for me to sort of say it's one or the other. That's that way with so much Russian music especially Pop, other than Тату a lot of styles were borrowed and marketed to a different region.
Maybe you hear Britney Spears here too? It's my favorite of her tracks but every girlfriend who's heard it said they hear Britney Spears and I don't because I haven't had much exposure to her music. The strange thing was moving to England and hearing songs that sounded like songs I already knew but by different artists, it feels like it still happens. I mostly mentioned Metal and Rock in here so maybe that's something about Pop that you'd find interesting.
Света is another Pop favorite I had and still do, I think she has her own sound unless you hear something else there? I'd hope not.
My favorite right now/current is Karna.val, and her Simple Female song and yes that's product placement, it's sometimes very noticeable.
GRIVINA is from some more years back but I still really like her music.
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